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Nappies gone, as has sleep. Arse.

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Mij · 06/06/2008 10:41

So what d'you do when your nearly 2 year old, who's just gone nappy free during the day (pretty successfully, no real training needed cos she'd been doing so much nappy off time she'd got good at putting wee in the right place kinda without thinking about it. Only a few accidents over the first week) gets it so comprehensively that she wants to go nappy free at night too?

Well, when I say 'wants' it would be more accurate to say 'threw the biggest wobbly I've seen to date and wouldn't go near a nappy, cloth or disposable, last night'.

And turns out she is in fact dry at night.

Except - we bf, and her nighttime boob curfew runs until about 6ish, give or take half an hour or so. So now, when she wakes up for early morning milk, she's awake enough to know she needs the potty.

So we get up, sometimes twice, and by that time we're both wide awake and madame decides the day has started.

At 5.40am ffs.

I can't ignore the plead of 'weeeeee', and she's cottoned on extremely quickly that a request for the potty means any adult will drop what they're doing and go and spend time with her, day or night.

What the hell do I do?

Just to complicate matters further we bedshare (which works wonderfully for us most of the time) and I don't think we're ready to ditch that quite yet (and certainly not before we go on hols in a fortnight) so - any suggestions that don't involved forcing her into a nappy or shutting her in another room?!

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Mij · 06/06/2008 17:37

Oh, and before anyone says '5.40am, that's nothing' I mean that's when I gave up trying to persuade her back to bed and got up with her.

And she's taking blooming ages to go to sleep again, so it's past 8 when she finally gives in. Which is not enough sleep for her, even if she has a two hour nap (hasn't happened since the nappies went, either).

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gingernutlover · 06/06/2008 19:41

dd was like this when she trained (on;ly a few weekas back) and it got better when she learned to empty the potty herself, we made it clear we were not getting up to help her, and it worked, she gets a bit on the floor (but we have lino) and takes herself back to bed, or at least plays in her room til a bit later, we also have bunny lights on a timer which helps at weekends

also the nappy at night thing if you are worried buy her some pretty pink pull ups, dds have princesses on which helps and although i think she knows they are nappies she was getting upset at a few wet beds so we decided to give them ago

gingernutlover · 06/06/2008 19:42

oh or a friend of mine just puts a potty in her dd's room on a little mat

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Mij · 07/06/2008 10:04

Thanks, we have the potty in the bedroom (worked that one out after night one) but for some reason, even though she can do the whole potty operation, including tipping and flushing, herself, at night Only Mummy Can Do The Pants Or Anything Else.

Not worried about the floor, she's been weeing on the carpet since she could crawl .

Have been trying to find washable pull-ups but cloth trainer pants all look enormous to me, and she's a little dot with a tiny bum. Just don't have the dollar to start buying sposies now.

We tried 'lifting' last night - someone suggested dumping her on the potty when we went to bed. Well, it worked in as much as she weed and then didn't need to do so again until after a morning bfeed at 6ish, but then screamed her head off at us for ten minutes at the injustice of having been woken.

Fair doos, I'd say.

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FrannyandZucchini · 07/06/2008 10:05

we had this for a while when ds came out of nappies
it did pass, probably took about a month - 6 weeks?

CarGirl · 07/06/2008 10:11

Ditch the potty and pants, kick her out of bed to take herself to the loo????? Sorry I never really bothered with the potty even my little dd they just use the toilet and do it all themselves. If she can't pull up pants don't put them on at night?

WriggleJiggle · 07/06/2008 10:36

We have just been through a similar thing. Afternoon naps stopped working as she needed the potty / toilet and refused nappies. She now has a 'proper bed' and a potty in the room so she can sort herself out.
At night, she does wear a nappy, out of habbit I think.

We still have the problem that she needs to tell us about her toiletting successes. Don't know what to do about that though. I suspect it will tail off as the excitement of using the potty / toilet wears off? At the moment she is terribly proud of everytime she uses the potty and toilet.

Mij · 07/06/2008 11:18

CarGirl - she does use the loo a lot (think she finds pooing more acceptable in the loo) but she's a real little dot and even with a step stool she can't get on the loo herself. She can also do her clothes herself, insists on it most of the time, but just cos she can, doesn't mean she will .

Actually, I'm only putting her in pants at night cos when she flatly refused a nappy two nights ago I thought, well, at least they'll soak up a bit of wee if she wets the bed!

At night, I generally find it less disruptive to do what she prefers quickly and get back to bed in minimal time, than ignore her or refuse, which then leads to anguished howling and waking the whole street up.

Franny - I was hoping someone would say that.

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Denny185 · 07/06/2008 20:31

Nightdresses with no knickers and you should then be able to 'lift' her without her waking, just keep your arms around her back and head on your shoulders for the duration.

? inco sheet/absorbant change mat thing under sheet incase

Could you sneak a nappy on once she's asleep?

Mij · 09/06/2008 23:38

Hadn't thought of the nightdress option. Hmmm.

She wet the bed on Saturday night - my fault, she zonked so quickly I didn't get her to do a last loo trip, so was kinda expecting it.

She was uspet, asked to have a nappy on. Which was then bone dry in the morning. Refused both nappy and pants Friday night.

Last night she was in and out of the bathroom for blooming ages, having micro-wees, at bedtime. I decided not to lift her, and she went 'til after 5 without needing a wee, but still woke at 4 and howled for milk. Tbh, she hasn't been nightweaned that long and I suspect ditching nappies has had a bit of a regressive effect on that.

Changed routine around a bit tonight to try to get maximum time after milk for a last wee. Will just have to see what happens.

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