Almost dry and clean

[TinkerbellesMum]

I started last Monday with training pants (got a good deal at the Baby Show) and asking her if she wanted to go. She had a couple of accidents but was on the toilet more, each day she has got drier and mainly if she has an accident it's Mummy's fault for not responding quick enough (she always stands in another room shouting "Mummy!" so I'm having to guess when she just wants a shadow or wants me to take her to the loo). She has had 4 poos since we started, only one was in her nappy (still use nappies at night, in the car and someone elses house) but it was very runny and we were out. Yesterday we were at someone's house so we left her in nappies and took her stool and toilet seat, when I took her to the toilet (she was caught half way up the stairs) her nappy was dry, so she's not even being lazy with it on when she has the choice to go.

All this is great, she's 22 months and it's mostly her, but she's smaller than the average 12 month old so she needs help getting on and off the toilet and when she is on there the edge of the main seat is across her ankles! Also she isn't asking so much as calling me, but she does this sometimes when she just wants a shadow - it's easier at Mum's because she walks upstairs and calls me as she goes, so it's more obvious what she wants. Not sure how this is going to work when she is fully clean and dry. We haven't used a potty, not for any particular reason, but I live in a flat so it's just as easy to get to the toilet, not sure if it's going to be easy to introduce one now, she's very clean so I don't know how she would handle one - my sister was the same and had problems.

Sounds like things are going very well. Well done baby Tink

Not sure why you want to introduce a potty ?

As for knowing when she wants to go, can you teach her a word or sound which means 'I want the toilet' or why not introduce a BSL sign for 'T' or 'Toilet'

Only reason I said about a potty is people keep saying with her language and physical abilities it would be easier because she can take herself.

She does say "toilet" "beebee" (weewee) and "poooooo!" but she has to be told to say them the rest of the time it's "Eh! Eh!" or "Mummy! Mummy!" I've gone running a few times because our WC is next door to the kitchen just to find she's asking for yoghurt again.

She did my head in yesterday. Because she'd been so good over the weekend I let her go to Nanny's in her pants. Grandad put a real nappy on the seat just in case. Got to Nanny's house and she weed without warning, soaking her pants and jeans. Stripped her off and took her to the toilet, which she wasn't impressed about. I put another pair of pants on her, she wet those too, again no warning, so I did the same again. I left her without the pants hoping that would encourage her to remember to go. She had brought a child's garden chair in the living room and put it next to the coffee table. She was playing with the chair and I said "Do you want a weewee?" " no..." shook her head. "Shall I put your nappy on?" " no..." shook her head. "Will you tell Mummy if you need the toilet?" " no..." shook her head.

She put one hand on the back of the chair, the other on the table, put her foot on the chair and weed under the table! I don't mind accidents but I was cross with her because she did it deliberately and had obviously planned it, you can always see her cogs whirring, she's such a cheeky thing but this was past cheeky. I tried not to get angry at her, but I was very not happy!

Oh dear weeing on purpose...it is a phrase many children go though. You were right not to show your anger.

When my DD did that I would say 'Wee belongs in the potty/toilet not on the floor' and then I would give her a cloth and we would both clean up the wee.

I have spent the last 19 months helping my DD to a toilet on request. Just this last week she has decided to use a potty downstairs on her own. If I have her naked on the bottom half she'll go and fetch and use the potty.

Maybe strip little Tink down, show her a potty and see what happens ?

She tends to walk around with nothing on the bottom half, she's been wanting to potty train for about 6 months. She's so clean that normally she freaks out if she wees on the floor so I give her a real nappy and she cleans it up

She did better yesterday. She went in the hospital creche when I had an appointment. I told them she's nearly dry, so they took her to the toilet. They didn't tell me they'd left her without a nappy. I had a hospital taxi drop me at the post office, went to Boots and then got a taxi back. She was still dry (apart from her trousers cause they won't stay up without a nappy and she was walking on them lol) when we got home and she did a big wee on the toilet as soon as we got in.

I'm not sure if I trust her yet to leave her without a nappy when we're out. You never know how far you are going to be from a toilet so I'm going to stick with nappies when we're out and just keep asking her. She's been wet in the mornings so not ready to stop nappies at night, maybe when her Dad is back from London so he can take her before her morning feed as that's probably when it's happening.

that is great that she has taken to it so young my ds did this too

but he also decided to stop doing it after few weeks also wanting nappy back on

just to say keep up with good work and folloow her lead if she seems to be having more accidents could be the phase has worn out for her and to go bsvck to nappies until she is bit older and more ready

if she continues thats great but she is still young so dont get cross if she does have accidents just take potty with you and sit her straight on potty

due to lack of speech you cant expect her to be able to say every time she wants to go you would normally take them every 20 mins to half and hour yourself to see if they can go

you can buy fold up pottys in boots that have hygeine bag and liner every 20 mins you can get her out of chair and pop on the potty then it folds compact again to fit under pushchair there great

oh and also buy bed mats you can fold one and place in pushchair just in case and just take bag of spare clothes even for potty trained children they still have accidents

She's been pushing for it for six months (I posted about it on here at the time before but everyone said to leave her as it was too young) and she hates being in a wet nappy, so I don't think she will go back but she could surprise me! She was 9 weeks early and seems to still be in a big rush to live life!

I don't think 22 months is too young to use a potty, we have been putting our DD on a toilet since she has been 10 weeks old

Use nappy backup if that makes you relax and happy and not worried about misses.

However children know the difference between wearing nappies/pants and behave differently depending on what they are wearing.

If you don't want to move straight to pants, there are also cloth trainer pants, like bright bots, which hold a wee.

You're right about knowing the difference. My nephew who's 4, was born without an anus, he had it reconstructed by having a hole cut and the bowel attached, so there's still no anus or sphyncter which stops him from having any control and often from knowing it's coming. Until last week when they put him in Bambino Mio pants (we both got got some from the Baby Show last week Sunday) he was in nappies and would wee in them because he didn't need to wait, nappyless he would say. Now he is completely dry and even managing to say when he needs a poo.

We're about to go out to meet her godfather for dinner and I'm leaving her in pants. She'll be near a toilet most of the time so she should be ok. I told TD we're going to start night time toilet training when he gets back so he can get her straight to the loo in the morning.

The lady at Bambino Mio suggested putting a wrap over the pants (we normally use prefolds) to give a little extra protection if she wets. She won't let me lol I think she sees it as going back or something

ha, spamming my own thread!

She was 15 months I think when I posted and people said she was too young.

Sorry I missed your earlier thread. I would of encouraged you to start as soon as your Tink is ready.

That said she is doing great, I guessed she would be in cloth nappies, it helps children learn when they are wet earlier than disposals.

All the best with night training, I haven't dared for go cloth nappies at night, even though my DD is dry in the morning. Daft really, I'll have to bite the bullet and have a go at some point.

I've always left her nappy off in the flat (we don't have flooring so not to much of a problem) and she helps clean anything up. I also noticed around 14/15 months she wouldn't wee or poo sitting on someones lap or a chair, she would go away to do it. At one point, can't remember how old she was, she started asking to go to the toilet but it lasted a week, once a day and she didn't do anything on it. Maybe she was just preparing herself to start early

Bless her from birth the only thing she didn't start early was walking!

(lol she's sitting on the shelf under my desk, popping her head round and going "hellor" she's so funny)

here it is.

I see you got the standard 'just wait' comments.

I have been looking at your profile, what beautiful blue eyes your daughter, she is going to break a few hearts later on.

She is gorgeous she has quite classic prem looks (big eyes, slim face) and it is very striking. She now has a thick blonde fringe, which she looks up through and raises an eyebrow. It's so cute and cheeky! She's very sweet natured, I'm not sure what I did to get her (Mum keeps trying to tell me...)

She's been in a bad mood today, overtired as we were a little late in last night. She's refused to tell me when she needed to go and wet two pairs of pants already. She has tipped the living room up and not with toys, she's been under the PC desk pulling things out, demanding yogurt (she's obsessed!)... She's now back in bed, thankfully!

At the pub last night she went to the toilet twice, a man we speak to there lent us his RADAR key so we could get into the disabled/baby change as they've lost theirs. After we'd eaten she started yanking my finger, but she'd been running up and down so I thought she was just messing around, then she started to wee, not much but she was devastated! Asked staff to let me in they said the manager would come and do it in a minute. Then she started to get really anxious so I had to get firm with them! She ended up soaking from the wait. Fortunately I'd had the foresight to bring PJ's and a nappy for her. I've promised myself I will always go when she pulls and tell her no later if I have to. I do feel really guilty, but at least I know now that she really does want to be dry.

Yay for baby Tink. My DS sorted himself out too, I put him in pants full time at ~19 mths when I realised would ask to use toilet/potty when was nappy free, but would often wee without saying anything if he knew he had a nappy on. He's 21 mths now. We have had some nappy free nights after he was dry for 4 nights in a row, but he wets about half the time, so have gone back to using a cloth nappy. He sometimes wakes and asks to go at night, and then I leave the nappy off as I know he'll be dry in the morning. I've covered his sheet with a metre of fleece, so is like a big nappy liner! His bed stays dry on top if he does wee, so he's not lying in it all night. It works really well. I still often use cloth training pants (Boots ones) if in town/someones house so an accident wouldn't be obvious/messy, but has only happened once when he got stuck in a complicated high chair! Normal pants at home/nursery. We always take a potty or a folding potty in the car and when out, as I'm not sure he could wait if was a toilet queue! Sits on a bed mat in the car, never wets it, but I'm sure the minute I take it off....!! Good luck with nights too, might try again ourselves while its not duvet weather! I think like his day dryness, knowing he's not in a nappy might make the difference, and its as easy to change a sheet and the fleece as to wash a cloth nappy! On the other hand, we're in no hurry, I love his woolly wrap at bedtime!!

We've had another defiant day! She's decided not to tell me 3 times and one time kept running away when I wanted to take her wet pants off! She's also decided that she is the only one allowed to use the toilet. I always ask her when I go if she needs it because she follows me around the flat. So, when she says no I carry on and go myself. Every time I go without her she gets angry and tries to push me off She also decided today that she would help me put my pants on, like I do her [eyeroll]

Ah well, I think we're getting there!

I like the fleece idea, will have to buy some when I next put a fabric order in.

I like the fleece idea too.

Aww, Poor Tink not wanting you on her toilet.

I think I saw the idea on here!

I think she's being awkward because Daddy's home, so I'm hoping next week she will be a bit better. This weekend she has mainly been in nappies because she's not asking to go and saying no when asked. TD has managed to get her to go twice today but she still managed to fill a size 5 (she's been in disposables and is normally in 4+'s) nappy in a couple of hours tonight.

She's going to the childminders this week for the first time, she's got 2 x 4 hours and the CM is potty training two other little girls so it should be helpful for us.

Well, thanks for reposting it Maygirl as I missed it last time.

TinkerbellesMum Toilet learning is not a straight line, there will be forward and backward steps but little Tink will get there ALl the best at the childminders.

I took her in a nappy as I didn't know how she would cope with the walk. CM changed her out of the nappy as soon as I had gone, which she wasn't impressed about! She remained dry the whole time she was there. Got her home (asleep in the sling sucking on the remainder of her third banana) and as soon as we sat down, with her on my lap she started to wee. Got her to the toilet and she did more. Went through two pairs at home in about two hours before my dad came for us. She wet the pair she was wearing just before we put her in the car and while we were on the way she was making "oh oh" noises. Changed her at my parents, she stood and watched while wee came out the bottom of her pants. She wouldn't let me put her in pants then got really upset and asked for them on. She did a pooh. She must be constipated because she's only been 4 times in about two weeks and this was really hard in both senses of the word!

CM thinks it will be good having the three girls together doing it as they tend to all ask when one goes.

We seem to be having a few good days followed by one day where she can't be bothered. Hopefully between being at the CM's and her dad coming home from secondment it should get easier.

I got a potty! I'd left the seat at my parents so got her one while she was at the CM. She walked in and straight away was trying to undress so she could sit on the potty - surprised me, but since discovered Nanny and Grandad (on Daddy's side) have put her on one they got for her. She's doing really well with it now, will go to use it when she wants to (as long as I leave her bottomless). The biggest problem now is that she thinks Mummy has to be sitting on the toilet next to her whilst she is on the potty! This isn't too bad though as my bladder has suddenly decided it needs lots of emptying (I'm almost 8 weeks and it only realises when I find out??? Maybe I just haven't noticed ).

She's still going through a lot of pairs of pants from not asking till it's happening, but she is realising. I'm very grateful that she has started potty training herself before there are two bums to change!