Baby being sick

[Pontypool]

According to my pediatrician. My baby being sick a lot isn't a problem if he's gaining weight which he is, slightly above average milestone
He says if he's losing wait, there is a milk or a separate thing to add to milk to calm his gag reflex down, but he doesn't recommend it, because he could gain too much weight?? (Not 100% sure because I'm not native here and he doesn't natively speak Engish)

However I want to get a second opinion, because the amount of sick is ridiculous. Like I can feed him, burp him and he can be sick multiple times even up to 5 hours after his bottle or food . Im talking like 2-3 average but up to 5 isn't unheard of.

I don't want it to come across that I'm moaning, but on a separate topic I'm being under supported . Where my income is supposed to be supplemented. And even though they have me on their system as claiming child benefit. Im not. But they're reducing regular support assuming I'm also claiming child benefit.
Additionally they're assuming my heating cost is lower than it is (despite having a baby my heating costs are up)

All of the above is due to 25% to a language barrier 75% due to an arrogant attitude at the welfare centre in this country

The only reason I'm mentioning this is because my baby being sick over clothes/blankets/ bed sheets and then i replace them and hes sick again is creating an absurd amount of washing and tumble drying so for me it is a problem.

For example one night hes sick on his cot sheet. So I take him into my bed. Then hes sick in there and on his clothes and on mine.. so I change him. Bath him. Then he is sick on the towel and clean clothes as I'm clanging him.

To be honest it does seem a bit irritating to constantly hear its not a problem as long as he's gaining weight and not just the washing or waste of milk/ food but surely it can't be right anyway .
At least my midwife who also said it isn't a problem kind of got a, taste of it when he sicked on her when she picked him up and again when she changed him (on one visit) and the nursery I leave him at when I go to work also asked me to leave rescues clean clothes as he's been sick a couple times . So other people also think its quite a lot

How old is your baby and is he breastfed or formula?

My baby was EBF and had a dairy allergy and sounds exactly like yours. My paedetrician also dismissed me but I knew there was more to it. I completely gave up dairy at 8 weeks and he improved so much. Went from projectile sick everywhere to ZERO in a week. He was also such a miserable baby before and he completely transformed into a happy, content baby.

If you formula feed, then you need prescription formula for dairy allergy.

Dd projectile vomited a lot so I know the struggle!!! Hers was ‘just’ an overactive gag reflex and she eventually grew out of it. Has he been checked for pyloric stenosis? Allergies?

can’t help re benefits sorry but hopefully someone more useful will be able to

How old is your baby?
Mine did this for months on end and it was reflux. He was a 'happy puker' though, as in it didn't have an effect on his overall form. Gained weight appropriately, too.
They're slow to medicate babies, obviously if it can be avoided it's better. The thickeners can lead to a lot of constipation and tummy upset so are only recommended if it's impacting form/weight gain/overall health.
If it's similar to my case, then most babies do grow out of it, but not sure of your baby's age and whether they should be outgrowing it by now.
The laundry is frustrating. I used more muslin cloths than I ever imagined using. Probably obvious, but holding baby upright for an extended period of time after feeds and keeping them covered with a muslin can help with protecting clothing. In the early days I kept a large muslin in the crib under baby's head/neck area, tucked under the mattress on either side for safety. These can easily be washed by hand so less use of the washing machine.

Another one told that gaining weight fine just reflux. Turned out to be multiple food allergies as well as reflux and silent reflux. She moved from the 9th the 35th percentile once reflux was adequately treated and allergies were removed.
Any other symptoms, my daughter was unhappy permanently and had frequent (up to 20+ a day as a newborn) loose stools. We were doing cloth nappies so we were already doing extra washing.

Another friend had a baby that frequently projectile vomited though and the baby was fine didn't need any treatment and wasn't allergy based.

How is baby in himself? Is he reasonably content, alert when awake, and so on? (Of course this is somewhat age dependent.)

DD was like this when she was a baby. HV wasn't concerned as she was putting on weight normally. When we had our second child after every feed or the slightest noise they made we'd brave ourselves for exorcist style vomit, but it never happened. As much as I hate the phrase it really did trigger us.

I had two happy pukers. So much spew, so much laundry. Both stopped dead on 6 months when solids were introduced. With DD1 I tried a bunch of stuff but made no difference and she didn’t seem bothered by it anyway. With DD2 I didn’t bother trying to prevent it, just accepted the spewy life, and again she was perfectly happy.

Which country are you in?

Your use of 'my pediatrician' and 'welfare centre' are not terms I recognise.

I think your expectations may be unrealistic.

If you have seen a pediatrician and they are happy with your child's development /weight gain then you are unlikely to be referred to another.

Your local GP would normally be your main point of contact for medical issues and your health visitor for advice related to your baby.

For advice on benefits the citizens advice bureau might be helpful

Thanks for your reply and sorry for my late reply. I hadn't considered that. But everyone dismisses me here when they don't understand how much he is sick. Literally he could be sick 50 times a day as long as he gains weight is the clear verdict. You say this dairy free milk is on prescription? You can't just buy it? What about oat milk? I imagine a baby isn't getting all the stuff they need from normal oat milk has to be proper stuff.

Oh BTW not breast fed. Due to a breast reduction surgery (very large breasts)
Also he's 8 months. I've been assured he slums grow out of it. But even after solid food its not even reduced

Hi. Pediatrician or midwife not remotely concerned as hes consistently gained weight. So no idea

I'm British. But living overseas (Germany) i don't speak very good Deutsch. The pediatrician does.. I hear what you say. But i don't have much faith in doctors due to my own personal experiences with a chronic condition that was misdiagnosed and made ten times worse. Before being religious diagnosed twice. In my personal experience a second opinion is always worth it. And that's putting it mildly.

Yes he's very happy thank you

Hi yeah. He's been on solids for a while as per pediatrician advice. It doesn't stop. .. BTW this isn't for you but mods sorry if I'm not replying correctly I don't know how to multi quote and never use social media

Do you feel its gotten better or worse since starting solids?

I would advise to start keeping a record of what and when he eats and the times he is throwing up. Do this for at least two weeks. That way you might see if certain foods make it worse. For example if with milk and yogurt it happens and not with avocado it might be lactose.

With my DS's egg white intolerance he usually threw up between 3 and 5 hours after eating it. But it only happend on days when he had something with egg so it was quite easy to pinpoint the problem.

If you see no pattern at least you have a record of the frequency it's happening you can show the doctor. I find that professionals take you a lot more serious if you come prepared with data.

I'd agree with keeping a food and sickness diary and see if you can spot any triggers.

That said, my impression here in the UK is that most doctors would be reluctant to medicate a baby who is happy in himself, gaining weight well, and developing as expected. They might get more concerned around the 1 year mark, as most babies have outgrown reflux by then.

For practicalities, when you change his nappy, try rolling him to his side rather than lifting his legs – for my second, lifting the legs used to just squeeze the milk out of her. We also put a flannel or small muslin under her head to catch the sick – saved many a clothing change and hair wash.

We also had some good waterproof mats (ours are Little Greene Sheep). They are mattress protectors, and excellent for that, but just flat, no elasticated edges or anything, so also good for putting on a sofa, on carpet, etc. to protect them – they aren't crinkly at all, and the outer fabric is comfortable to sit or lie on.

@Pontypool they make formula for babies with a dairy allergy. At 8 months you should absolutely not replace formula with oatmilk, you are right it does not have everything he needs.

Usually you get it on prescription as it's expensive but you can buy them if you want. Nutramigen is a brand I have looked at before. Neocate is another one. They have different levels of broken down dairy so that babies can digest it. There are some that have no dairy at all for babies with very bad allergy but they taste really bad. You would preferably have the guidance of a dr in choosing one.

If he is 8 months, are you giving him dairy? Like cheese, yogurt, butter etc? My baby vomits everywhere if I even cook something in butter. So you will need to stop that too if you get the prescription formula.