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I am at my wits end with my 3.5 and 2 year old

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Isitjustme20 · 24/05/2025 06:14

I’m sat here having both got up just before 6 which is great, usually 2 year old is up at 4 for the day but the tantrums just start from the moment they wake up, especially my 3.5 year old who only wants to wee on potty which is upstairs and refusing to see on toilet downstairs, she’s been tantruming for 15 mins and smacked her head in the process, I’m rubbing it better and she’s just hitting me, what am I doing wrong? They both seem bloody miserable all the time, I can’t stand it

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Justbidedmytime · 24/05/2025 06:16

Compromise
yes to potty
but downstairs right by the toilet

FeatherDawn · 24/05/2025 06:22

You aren't doing anything wrong
3 year old are awful sometimes.
She's emotionally disregulated and that's what tantrums are
It's just a process of learning they go through.
If she's hitting you move away.
Say no hitting firmly.
Get a potty upstairs and down, they are supercheap so pick your battles
Deep breaths, she needs you to teach her regulation by staying calm.
Let her tantrum out and then calmy talk her through why we dont hit, redirect to another activity

It will pass Brew

NewUserIDRequired · 24/05/2025 06:25

Buy another potty and put it downstairs. We dont even have a downstairs loo and we still have a potty downstairs to avoid arguments / mishaps about going upstairs. These are tough ages and you will get through it 💪

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Isitjustme20 · 24/05/2025 06:28

Thanks all I brought it downstairs and she went! She threw another tantrum first thing because she wanted me to carry her downstairs and I couldn’t because I had hold of my 2 year old who is going through a very clingy phase at the moment, thank you really appreciate it, feel so alone and don’t know anyone else with children yet!

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Justbidedmytime · 24/05/2025 06:32

Isitjustme20 · 24/05/2025 06:28

Thanks all I brought it downstairs and she went! She threw another tantrum first thing because she wanted me to carry her downstairs and I couldn’t because I had hold of my 2 year old who is going through a very clingy phase at the moment, thank you really appreciate it, feel so alone and don’t know anyone else with children yet!

But you have a very supportive husband!

I was on your pretty memorable thread about In laws!

Wallywobbles · 24/05/2025 06:35

The absolute best advice I read for those ages was the following.
Go and get your teddy/blanky/whatever and lie down on the sofa. And when you’re feeling better come back and join us.
By doing this they learn to self regulate their strong emotions. They are not being punished and they are not being separated from you. And you can get on with whatever you need to do.

I read a really good parenting book (and lots that made me feel shit too) and this was really the most useful piece of advice in them all.

Isitjustme20 · 24/05/2025 06:35

Justbidedmytime · 24/05/2025 06:32

But you have a very supportive husband!

I was on your pretty memorable thread about In laws!

Yes he is! Although I have to say he is completely burnt out lately with it, a usually happy guy who is just miserable most evenings!

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TizerorFizz · 24/05/2025 06:37

What time do they go to bed? Why is 2 year old up at 4? What are sleeping arrangements? Put them to bed later and see if they sleep through.

Start saying no. Potty lives downstairs but at 3.5 potty is babyish. I would be saying no to that. Too old. What happens at nursery?

Start ignoring tantrums. Tell them to be quiet and don’t respond. Dont leap to it. What is 3.5 child’s language like? Why tantrums instead of language? I did not let tantrums dictate to me but it was a rare occurrence I have to say. Maybe your dc have worked out how to get your attention and know a tantrum works? Say you will do nothing unless they calm down. And mean it.

Do not give choices that lead to arguments. No food choices. No clothes choices etc. Start a bit of training and start saying no if what they want isn’t reasonable.

Where’s their dad?

Justbidedmytime · 24/05/2025 06:39

Isitjustme20 · 24/05/2025 06:35

Yes he is! Although I have to say he is completely burnt out lately with it, a usually happy guy who is just miserable most evenings!

Well that’s unfair.

on you

two young children… it’s a tricky old time but doesn’t make it any better if one party is in a constant grump

TizerorFizz · 24/05/2025 06:39

No. You do not carry a 3.5 year old downstairs! Why does she think you will? Say no. She’s not a baby.

Rebeccajtaylor · 24/05/2025 06:42

It sounds like you're going through a really tough time, and it's completely understandable to feel. Dealing with constant tantrums and early mornings is exhausting, especially when you're trying to navigate potty training. You're doing a great job by reminding yourself that they're not doing it on purpose and that their brains are still developing. That's a crucial perspective to hold onto. That's what I do.

Potty Training Challenges and Tips
It's common for children to have preferences, like your 3.5-year-old only wanting to use the potty upstairs. It might be a comfort thing, or she might feel more secure there.

While it's frustrating, try to stick to a consistent approach. If the potty upstairs is her preference, you might consider having a second potty downstairs if space allows, or making the trip upstairs a consistent routine when she needs to go.

Small rewards for using the potty, even just stickers or a special song, can be very motivating.

My kids a sticker chart where they get a sticker for every successful potty trip, and after a certain number of stickers, they get a small toy or a fun activity.

I used youtube There are many helpful videos. Searching for "potty training songs for toddlers" or "potty training tips for parents" can bring up some good resources. Channels like "Blippi" or "Cocomelon" often have potty-themed episodes that can make it helpful.

Is it too cold downstairs?
Sometimes children can be sensitive to temperature, and if a room is too chilly, they might be reluctant to use the potty there. Also, consider if there's anything else about the downstairs toilet that might be intimidating for her?

Maybe you just need to understand why toddlers often tantrum is it because they're tired, hungry, overwhelmed, or struggling to communicate their feelings. A 3.5-year-old has strong opinions and is still developing emotional regulation. Hitting is a sign of extreme frustration, and it's not a reflection of your parenting.

What's the daily routine like and food?

When she hits you, calmly I usually say but firmly state, no hitting. Hitting hurts Then, you can gently hold her hands or move away for a moment. This teaches her that hitting is not an effective way to get what she wants. In sure you do this anyway but this just what helps me. Might not help you.

Do you have any help, perhaps family or friends, who could watch the children for a few hours so you can have a day off to relax? Even a short break can make a huge difference to your mental health.

Foods like blueberries, raspberries, spinach, and nuts is great for their overall development and can support their concentration, which is helpful for learning potty

Have you thought about nursery?

What is there routine and food at the moment?

FeatherDawn · 24/05/2025 06:58

Oh gosh @Isitjustme20
It's a draining time

If you can change your thinking to
"This is a normal developmental stage, it will pass"
It really helps
They are not naughty horrible children, they are learning to regulate their emotions and it takes time practice and calm parenting
She's a whirlwind of thoughts, emotions and frustrations so you need to be the calm rock there for her.
Don't take it personally and don't react back emotionally
Best tip I was ever given

Never ask a question if a no answer is unacceptable to you

Would you like cereal? NO
Vs
Cereal or toast?

Have some firm non negotiables

Teeth brushing
Going to bed
No hitting
Hold hands near road
Sitting at the table to eat

Direct your child
Time for teeth/bed/hold hand/ breakfast
Repeat if pushback

These then become normal expectations-not pleeeaaase do this etc

Lastly my HV said parent as if you are being filmed
I called it my Mary Poppins voice
😂

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