Is this chicken pox

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My daughter's nursery has had chicken pox going round and she has been sent home as some spots appeared on her leg.

Does this look like the start of chicken pox? She is vaccinated but aware that doesn't totally stop her from catching it

Can you go and ask a pharmacist? Breakthrough infection is possible but not massively common so it could just be a coincidence that it’s going and they’re actually bug bites or something.

It does yes

Yes, was planning to go check with a pharmacist tomorrow if the sports are still there tomorrow

Could also be the start of hand foot and mouth, although less likely if they are only on her leg. Any spots on her trunk?

It looks like it to me. If it is chickenpox I found Poxclin Mousse works really well to soothe their skin along with Aveeno colloidal oat sachets in the bath. If they're uncomfortable at night then Piriton is good at helping calm the itch. Just remember not to use any products containing ibuprofen.

Hard to say, my DC sometimes just get little pimple type things like this from time to time. It could be very very very mild CP, or it could just be a couple of random spots that you never would have taken note of if everyone wasn’t on high alert for CP. Even if it is CP, with her being vaccinated she might not get anything other than those.

A couple have come up on her belly buts that's it

Is there fluid in the spots?

CP has clear fluid blisters and not much else does. Shine a light on it from the side if you can't see.

Just red spots to start with, fluid comes in later. Give lots to drink. Don't let her scratch or they may scar. Not usually too bad at this age.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chickenpox/

If say it does. My son only had half a dozen spots when he had chickenpox, where his sister was covered from head to foot. Possibly a very mild dose due to the vaccination, but I'd get a pharmacist to check x

No it’s not chickenpox.

I’m guessing you are American because UK public health policy doesn’t recommend varicella vaccine for most children due to the following:

1. it causes severe shingles in young people which we are seeing in adults who were vaccinated as kids vs those who had chickenpox . Internal shingles and paralysis from shingles in people under 30 which is basically non existent in unvaccinated

2. it reduces natural immunity for older people, who are most vulnerable to the virus. This is a very mild Illness for 99.99% of children but is much more serious if contracted as an adult.

You can pay for it privately in the UK - and actually they are just about to add it to the list of vaccines (early 2026 is rumoured)

The US has been forcing people to get unnecessary and untested vaccines such as this one for years, with bad results.

I think it’s important to mention the hat varicella is one vaccine which is developed using aborted fetal cell lines and has been documented to be contaminated with human DNA. You won’t know if your batch is contaminated or not, this is just an unavoidable risk. The main risk for human DNA contaminants is cancer, and why Japan has banned all vaccines developed with human cell lines.

I think you have an axe to grind you should declare this before you trash the vaccine and give medical advice. For what’s its worth i think you’re possibly right about it not being chicken pox but the images are not clear enough to be certain and op should get a diagnosis from the gp if CP is going round.

see below for more reliable advice about chicken pox and the vaccine.

Everything I said is a medical fact which you can verify independently and also with regard to Japan vaccine policy

DNA is filtered out because the risk of it causing cancer (and many other serious health risks) is also a medical fact, as are documented cases of contamination.

i don’t have an axe to grind but those are risks you are taking with any vaccine and chickenpox is just not a high risk disease to children.

Make your on choice but be informed.

Independent genetic labs can now afford to test vaccines and they have released their RAW DATA to anyone interested. Govt in the US refuses to make their raw data public and are losing credibility so I’m unclear why anyone would want to follow the US vaccine policy.

This is intersting and a bit of a worry for me as we did vaccinate our dc. Partly as there was an awful strain going around and some very unwell children, partly as the thought of all 3 getting it one after the other was more than I could cope with at the time as I was struggling. What would you recommend for children vaccinated as pre-schoolers who haven't had chicken pox (presumably as vaccinated) now?

We were advised to have immunity checked as teens and repeat it if not immune, particularly my daughter due to the risk of chicken pox in pregnancy.

Carry on with this?

They're all teens now (13, 13, 14).

Outdated information. Years outdated. Long term data and studies now suggests it actually lowers the risk of shingles later in life for children who have been vaccinated.

Being rolled out on the NHS from January. Would have been earlier except for cost implications.

Contaminants are a risk but NOT all batches are contaminated. And the good news is our bodies are equipped to excrete toxins. So many people can shake off contaminants without worry.

The worry is for subsets of people who are (genetically or otherwise) susceptible to contamination because they have impaired detoxification pathways. The aluminum adjuvants are also problematic for such people. And since people aren’t screened for such vulnerabilities, simply mandated to get many vaccines, even for mild illness like chickenpox, it is criminal really.

I remember chickenpox and for 99.99% of kids it is very mild. I personally would not opt for this vaccine. I would avoid all possible human DNA contaminants and there are a few vaccines that use human cell lines making this a real risk. The Japanese govt is extremely progressive on this.

Outdated simply doesn’t apply in this context. This is how science works. It takes a long time to arrive at such conclusions and there are different opinions in the meantime. If an investigator refuses to make raw data public this is a red flag and this is what vaccine manufacturers like Merk annd Pfizer, and agencies like CDC and FDA have done. The studies that are published are simply an interpretation of data that independent researchers have no way to verify or evaluate.

I’m not convinced that you understand how science works … what with you trotting out incorrect old beliefs about the vaccine that have been proven incorrect through the passage of time and not insignificant number of people who have had the vaccine.

I am sure however that you will hold firm in these incorrect beliefs and no amount of evidence, studies etc will convince you otherwise.

Ok, so biology doesn’t work with “proofs”. This is for math and physics. Biology takes time, a long time. Not 30 years of studies that don’t use controls. I have a degree in biology (pre med) and I’m in nursing school. My husband is a doctor and likewise rejects flu shots. Another junk science that gullible people believe in

Ah the old anti-vax argument of dna changing cells bullshit.

Tell me what do you do when you breath in house dust from your family? As house dust contains significant portion of skin cells aka other humans dna? Do you walk around with a mask on 24/7?

To answer your question, OP, it looks like it could be the start of chicken pox. Look out for a few more spots appearing on the tummy and becoming a bit more fluid-filled, but it often does start off exactly like this.