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Ex asking for more custody, then refusing to stick to additional days

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Glitterbug21 · 03/05/2025 08:56

My ex has decided to ask for more time with his children after initially accusing me of withholding the children in an argument. Ironically the argument was because he has refused to take care of his kids during medical emergencies and has repeatedly been inconsistent. I pointed out to him that I have always been willing to to discuss changes but he must provide his work rota and be consistent. For the past year he has refused this and has prioritised going out and his relationship over the children. But now has finally agreed to provide it.

I said we can agree three nights a week and adjust his child maintenance accordingly. I said he must stick to agreed days and if ge wants to go out and do other things on his days with the kids he must still have them and arrange his own child care.

he has already responded to tell me him and his partner both work and he is entitled to time with her. I said of course you are, but you must sort that yourself as I have had to. Nope not good enough. He expects to be able to drop the kids on his addition days and has already dropped an entire week in June to spend with his gf. I asked him if he would be willing to take them an extra week for my partner and I to spend time together to make it fair, he said no.

he wants everything done on his terms and when I point out that it’s not fair he accuses me not respecting his relationship and personal choices.

I can tell this isn’t going to work. Would it be fair for me to take this to mediation? It’s also worth mentioning there is a history of financial and coercive abuse. He made me and the children homeless to move his gf in and the past year has been hell.

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JohnofWessex · 03/05/2025 13:20

I doing see that there is anything to mediate, it can only work if both sides have some sort of potential to come to a reasonable agreement which clearly he doesnt have

womanwithissues · 03/05/2025 13:29

You're being a reasonable person and trying to make things work with someone who is only trying to score points. In your position I would write to him and in very neutral terms say that this new custody arrangement isn't working. That it's inconsistent for the kids and for you. You will go back to the previous arrangement. If he wants to change things - he can go to court.

Leave the ball in his court. don't discuss details. Grey rock all the way. It's hard to be like that but I think it's the only way with someone like him. It takes the stress out for you and gives him nothing to respond to.

TerrifiedPassenger · 03/05/2025 13:36

Even with a court order that specifies exact days and times, he cannot be forced to have the dc. Sorry.

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LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 03/05/2025 13:39

womanwithissues · 03/05/2025 13:29

You're being a reasonable person and trying to make things work with someone who is only trying to score points. In your position I would write to him and in very neutral terms say that this new custody arrangement isn't working. That it's inconsistent for the kids and for you. You will go back to the previous arrangement. If he wants to change things - he can go to court.

Leave the ball in his court. don't discuss details. Grey rock all the way. It's hard to be like that but I think it's the only way with someone like him. It takes the stress out for you and gives him nothing to respond to.

Agreed

TinyFlamingo · 05/05/2025 20:31

Get a MIAM, with a mediators explain there has been financial and coercive abuse and he made you homeless and explain he won't negotiate he wants it his was or no way and the mediators will sign your exemption form so you can apply direct for court and bipass mediation.

Unless you want to try mediation. You can absolutely.

You can apply for help with fees for mediation and court if you're a low earner. Good luck!

TinyFlamingo · 05/05/2025 20:33

Or just say unless it's fair, equitable and consistent for the children you don't agree to change it and you'll continue the arrangement as is
If he wishes to modify he can go formal with court.

:) good luck

Navyontop · 05/05/2025 20:58

Sounds like the best course might be straight to court. Organise set days and stop communicating with him about anything other than pick up and drop, have this written into the agreement.
Do not accept less CM, let the court set it based on your current set up.

MrsRaspberry · 05/05/2025 21:18

Sounds like he wants a revised custody agreement in order to reduce the child maintenance and nothing else he doesn't actually physically want to have more time with the kids he just wants it on paper to persuade child maintenance to reduce his financial contribution

Klozza · 05/05/2025 22:09

I completely agree with you tbh, theres nothing wrong with wanting to spend some quality time with your partner, but it has to be give and take! We don’t do 50/50, but my ex has our son Saturday and Sunday, so one night per week (although he does tend to drop him to his parents on the Sunday morning most weekends but thats neither here nor there really as my son loves seeing them anyway). I’ve asked him to have him for a full week in July so me and my partner can go on a much needed holiday without children (it’s been a very rough year). He agreed but asked if we could have him a weekend and the following Saturday in May for him to go away with his new partner, which I agreed to. I completely get your frustration and tbh it’s taken us over 2 years to get to the level of co-parenting we’re at and it can STILL be a fight with him now sometimes. Issue with mediation is if he doesn’t want to stick to an agreement it just won’t make a difference, a court order would be the only way to get it set in stone.

Klozza · 05/05/2025 22:09

MrsRaspberry · 05/05/2025 21:18

Sounds like he wants a revised custody agreement in order to reduce the child maintenance and nothing else he doesn't actually physically want to have more time with the kids he just wants it on paper to persuade child maintenance to reduce his financial contribution

THIS!!!

SamDeanCas · 05/05/2025 22:26

Do CM on a month by month basis. Sounds like he wants extra nights to reduce his CM mi tho costs. Take this away from him and this might make him reconsider

Pherian · 05/05/2025 22:55

Glitterbug21 · 03/05/2025 08:56

My ex has decided to ask for more time with his children after initially accusing me of withholding the children in an argument. Ironically the argument was because he has refused to take care of his kids during medical emergencies and has repeatedly been inconsistent. I pointed out to him that I have always been willing to to discuss changes but he must provide his work rota and be consistent. For the past year he has refused this and has prioritised going out and his relationship over the children. But now has finally agreed to provide it.

I said we can agree three nights a week and adjust his child maintenance accordingly. I said he must stick to agreed days and if ge wants to go out and do other things on his days with the kids he must still have them and arrange his own child care.

he has already responded to tell me him and his partner both work and he is entitled to time with her. I said of course you are, but you must sort that yourself as I have had to. Nope not good enough. He expects to be able to drop the kids on his addition days and has already dropped an entire week in June to spend with his gf. I asked him if he would be willing to take them an extra week for my partner and I to spend time together to make it fair, he said no.

he wants everything done on his terms and when I point out that it’s not fair he accuses me not respecting his relationship and personal choices.

I can tell this isn’t going to work. Would it be fair for me to take this to mediation? It’s also worth mentioning there is a history of financial and coercive abuse. He made me and the children homeless to move his gf in and the past year has been hell.

Make sure you’ve downloaded all the chats from your phone to preserve the originals if that’s how you’re communicating.

things can be deleted / edited and it’s best to have that original - because if he would make you and your children homeless then he’s probably a slimy scum bag and chances are he’s just doing this to pay less support.

Rainbowqueeen · 05/05/2025 23:23

Pherian · 05/05/2025 22:55

Make sure you’ve downloaded all the chats from your phone to preserve the originals if that’s how you’re communicating.

things can be deleted / edited and it’s best to have that original - because if he would make you and your children homeless then he’s probably a slimy scum bag and chances are he’s just doing this to pay less support.

I'd recommend taking it one step further and start using one of the parenting apps to communicate - nothing can be deleted from these. Write every message as if you expect it to be read out in court.

I'd also tell him that it is in the children's best interest for stability and consistency to return to the original parenting schedule and advice CMS accordingly.

Emmz1510 · 06/05/2025 09:20

I’m wondering if he only wants more days so he can pay less maintenance. But when it comes down to it he won’t make the commitment.
You say he is asking for more days- are his current days set by court order? Because if not I’d be tempted to remind him that he is asking for more days but keeps reneging on the arrangements so if he wants more he’ll need to take you to court and if he is successful he will have to stick to his days and arrange childcare when he can’t have them. I wonder if he will back down if it’s put to him this way and he’ll stop asking for extra days only to let the children down.
But yes of course you’d be within your rights to take him to mediation or straight to court. I’m just wondering if that’s the best way. Especially if you perhaps don’t think more days is best for the kids? Chances are the judge will give him more.

Glitterbug21 · 07/05/2025 20:02

Unfortunately it’s now gotten worse. He’s demanding full custody. He has booked 7 weeks off work on to of the 2 days a week and given me the rota to make it look like he has them more.

he’s told me verbally he will take my benefits and ensure I can’t be housed.

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womanwithissues · 07/05/2025 21:47

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this pr*ck. I think you need some legal advice at this point. Has he filed for full custody or just threatening to?

TinyFlamingo · 08/05/2025 16:27

Glitterbug21 · 07/05/2025 20:02

Unfortunately it’s now gotten worse. He’s demanding full custody. He has booked 7 weeks off work on to of the 2 days a week and given me the rota to make it look like he has them more.

he’s told me verbally he will take my benefits and ensure I can’t be housed.

Fully custody isn't a thing. Even with significant safeguarding and social services engagement it's so so so rare for a parent with have PR taken away and children residing with a single parent.

He doesn't know what he's talking about!

Glitterbug21 · 10/05/2025 11:55

womanwithissues · 07/05/2025 21:47

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this pr*ck. I think you need some legal advice at this point. Has he filed for full custody or just threatening to?

Threatening too. I got a message from the new gf asking why I was making her pay for the kids additional food when they start to have them full time!!! As apparently he’s told her she will foot the bill somehow??? No idea what on earth he’s telling her or playing at.

I have contacted local authorities to protect myself and am sorting legal advice.

what he’s planning on doing is hoping I don’t notice the time he’s asking for will mean they are with him more than me and then contacting the relevant people to get custody so he can take the benefits and housing rights from me

he’s stupid because he gets angry and for some reason tells me or makes it really obvious. Like okay stupid thank you for the heads up.

I’ve also ordered a camera doorbell in the meantime.

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Dreichweather · 10/05/2025 12:01

Glitterbug21 · 07/05/2025 20:02

Unfortunately it’s now gotten worse. He’s demanding full custody. He has booked 7 weeks off work on to of the 2 days a week and given me the rota to make it look like he has them more.

he’s told me verbally he will take my benefits and ensure I can’t be housed.

But that it’s going to happen.

I read somw thing on MN about a women who had a similiar ex and her and therapist came up the reply of ‘Let me know how that goes’ and every time he spouted random crap about going to court for full custody or anything she would reply with this phrase. For the girl friend I would say some thing like ‘that’s between you and dickhead’s name’.

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