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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 04:41

Hi ladies
I’m a FTM to my twins. They will be 3 months so just about to apply for child benefit
the application is asking if I live with my partner and for his NI. Well this is a tricky one, he is on the tenancy but he is in and out back and forth to his mums and mine as we don’t have a great relationship. I asked him for his NI but he will not give it. Long story. Do I put down that I’m single on the application?
from what I read it is to do with earning over 60k which I know for sure he doesn’t, and something to do with pension credits but I will be the one claiming. He’s on our council tax bill, so can I really not claim without him giving me his NI?

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caringcarer · 29/03/2025 15:35

KMG30 · 29/03/2025 11:25

@AnotherEmma thank you. It will get to that. It’s just that he is on the tenancy, we’ve been here 6 months. Would I just ask the landlord to remove him ? 😣 or will UC accept the tenancy with him on it. I’ve never claimed before as always worked

Ask the LL to remove him off of the tenancy. Send in a claim to CMS so you are certain he will pay maintenance for your twins. Having 1 baby is stressful on relationships so I imagine having 2 would be more difficult. Once he's off the tenancy apply for UC and council tax reduction. You could also have a chat to him and ask him if the relationship is over for him. It's always better to know where you stand. Make it clear to him if your relationship is over you are still expecting him to have a relationship with his twins. Suggest he comes and takes the babies out for a walk sometimes. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this with 2 such young babies. I hope you have some support in real life to help you sometimes.

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 15:55

@caringcarer Thank you for your kind message. I agree having the 2 babies has deffo put a lot of strain on the relationship. I will have a chat with him first to see if there is any hope in our relationship which on my side I don’t think there is! Then I’ll speak to my landlord. But I’m really worried, if the landlord says no? Or asks how I will afford it? Could he evict me.. I need to do a proper research. could I loose my home. I wouldn’t have anywhere else to live

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caringcarer · 29/03/2025 16:05

KMG30 · 29/03/2025 15:55

@caringcarer Thank you for your kind message. I agree having the 2 babies has deffo put a lot of strain on the relationship. I will have a chat with him first to see if there is any hope in our relationship which on my side I don’t think there is! Then I’ll speak to my landlord. But I’m really worried, if the landlord says no? Or asks how I will afford it? Could he evict me.. I need to do a proper research. could I loose my home. I wouldn’t have anywhere else to live

I'm a LL and I've had a similar request. I this instance the Mum left the Dad with a disabled DC. After she had gone I emailed her and told her as she was no longer living at house her DH had requested I take her off the lease and as she was no longer living there I would do that and refunded her half of the deposit. I gave her a reference stating all rent had been paid on time and house kept in good condition and she got another house with her new partner. Dad and disabled DC are still in house and Dad recently remarried. It should not affect the LL. If you claim UC you'll get housing benefit and can use that towards rent until you go back to work.

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 16:56

@caringcarer You seem like a very lovely human being! 😁
My LL never bothers us or we bother him, he’s super lovely when we met him , so hopefully if I need this done he’ll be understanding. Thank you!

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2025 18:13

Please be aware you don't need to wait until the joint tenancy has ended before you claim UC. You just need to be sure that the relationship has definitely ended and then you can claim UC as a single person. You can also tell the council he's moved out which means you should get the 25% single person discount, and you might be eligible for a further Council Tax Reduction (CTR).

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 18:20

@AnotherEmma Yes I think I understand this as an untidy tenancy? Was looking online also . But isn’t it better to be honest with my landlord and get my own tenancy. Or is doesn’t really matter? Just as long as he’s moved out

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2025 18:22

You are right, it's known as an "untidy tenancy" for UC. It's still better to end the joint tenancy and get a sole tenancy in your name if and when you can, otherwise your ex technically has the right to move back in, but if you're still in the fixed term and he doesn't agree to end it, you'll need to wait until the end of the fixed term before sorting it.

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 21:22

@AnotherEmma Yes I understand thank you! So couldn’t I just do that instead of telling the landlord he’s moved out? Or I have to show UC I’ve attempted to try get a sole tenancy in my name. Hmmm so scary when it comes to your home! 🥹

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2025 21:37

You really need to check your tenancy first. You can and should tell the landlord he's moved out, either way. What happens next depends on whether it's a fixed term or periodic tenancy.

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 21:52

@AnotherEmma oh I already know it is fixed term. We signed a two year term! So it is fixed until 2026 🥺
the landlord asked us how long we want a term for we said 12 months or more (as I knew we was having the babies and not wanting to move anytime in the near future) and he offered 24 months which I agreed as I thought it would be more security for me, not thinking our relationship would fail

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2025 21:57

KMG30 · 29/03/2025 21:52

@AnotherEmma oh I already know it is fixed term. We signed a two year term! So it is fixed until 2026 🥺
the landlord asked us how long we want a term for we said 12 months or more (as I knew we was having the babies and not wanting to move anytime in the near future) and he offered 24 months which I agreed as I thought it would be more security for me, not thinking our relationship would fail

Did you agree on a break clause at all?

Youll have to get your STBXP and landlord to agree to an early surrender. Either that or it will stay an "untidy tenancy" until the end of the fixed term, when you'll be able to end the joint tenancy.

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KMG30 · 29/03/2025 22:54

@AnotherEmma Deffo no break clause. Thank you I do understand 😊
But if UC are fine with an untidy tenancy then do I really need to tell my landlord/ask for a new tenancy? Obviously I know it’s totally better to be honest with him.

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2025 23:13

Will your ex agree to move out? Or will he insist that he has the legal right to come and go as he pleases?

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KMG30 · 30/03/2025 00:37

@AnotherEmma He has someone else to live so I’m sure he will just agree rather then cause a fuss

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