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To think this is not good enough [Content warning: thread concerns CSA]

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dray9925 · 12/03/2025 22:07

A week and a half ago my child disclosed ongoing sexual abuse committed by another child under the age of criminal responsibility (there are both 8) they attend the same school. The abuse has been going on for months and took place at the other child's house whilst I was working.
I was initially assured from the school that they were committed to keeping the children safe and my child class teacher said they would be kept apart. Twice since this conversation this child has been able to access mine. No abuse has taken place in school and this child seems to be playing which suggests to me they have not been explicitly told to leave my child alone. When I complained the school have said they have many pupils and they can not supervise them all at all times.
To me this is just unacceptable
What would you do (obviously moving schools is on the table I just don't think it's fair my child has to leave when they have done nothing wrong)
Thanks

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dray9925 · 12/03/2025 22:36

The point is they are children and it is not mine to tell especially online.
It is not my perception that it is serious it has been deemed so if you are going to continue with this take your comments elsewhere

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Zippidydoodah · 12/03/2025 22:37

Yes, @LittleHangleton .

Read the room. Then sod off.

CheesePlantBoxes · 12/03/2025 22:38

Honestly I think id speak to the headteacher and make it clear that if there is even one more incident, just one, that you will be going to the top - your MP, Board of Goveners, Ofsted, NSPCC, all on one email, asking why the school cannot keep your child safe and copying in the papers.

The school will be named but not the pupils.

Light a fire under their ass is my advice.

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LittleHangleton · 12/03/2025 22:39

dray9925 · 12/03/2025 22:30

Not online.
Not false reporting my child has been spoken too a strategy meeting has taken place with police SS ect and other child admitted some of it
I dont want to go into further details
School in my opinion should be protecting both children however they should not have contact my child wants nothing to do with the other and this child continues to seek mine out and school are saying there is nothing they can do.
Police and SS do see this as harmful but I do not have details of what is happening with other child as I am not allowed

So if not open to social care, the decision was section 47 not met? Have you consented to Section 17 assessment?

Remember there will have been another strategy meeting for the other child. You will not be informed of any outcome of that.

Have school talked to you about a risk assessment @dray9925? You can ask for one.

ouipamplemousse · 12/03/2025 22:39

LittleHangleton · 12/03/2025 22:34

There is.

Police and social care are not open, so this is not a case of sig harm. So what's happening here is that this parent's perception of the significance of the incident is greater than thresholds the main safeguarding services use.

Harmful sexual behaviour in children should not be taboo. It is necessary and good practice to discuss it openly.

No, there really really is not.

Even if you really are a safeguarding professional (which I highly doubt) you are not on mumsnet in a professional capacity. OP doesn’t know you from Adam, you are an anonymous name on the internet.

If you really WERE a safeguarding lead you would know that asking people to describe abuse (or indeed any kind of sexualised behaviour) to anonymous names on the internet is a really stupid thing to do.

LittleHangleton · 12/03/2025 22:52

School in my opinion should be protecting both children however they should not have contact my child wants nothing to do with the other and this child continues to seek mine out and school are saying there is nothing they can do.

This is where it is impossible to comment without more info, tho I appreciate you don't want to. I'm secondary DSL, so different to primary, but still guided by the same KCSiE document. ill try to explain what school should be doing tho.

You should be able to expect school to have a risk assessment in place to keep both children (and other children, if relevant) safe. In fact KCSiE states this is mandatory and should be immediate. So if the school don't have this in place, it would be a worry.

However, the risk assessment will be proportionate. It has to take into account lots of balancing of the needs of both children, the voice of the victim, the practicalities of the space avaliable, the seriousness of the issue. Risk assessing these things are not easy or black and white. Maybe the children are observed and supervised, if it's impossible for them to be physically separated for example? The bottom line here is - ask school about the risk assessment.

dray9925 · 13/03/2025 17:29

Believe it or not I do understand that this other child also needs support and help, they regularly assaulted my child for months on end and knew enough to convince my child it needed to be kept secret.
However I just find that at play times staff should be ensuring this child stays away from mine and that it is not too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♀️

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LittleHangleton · 13/03/2025 19:56

I just find that at play times staff should be ensuring this child stays away from mine

You really need to ask for a meeting with the DSL (likely the Head in a primary) and say you want them to talk you though the risk assessment. There will be a risk assessment, it's mandatory in cases of sexual violence.

They'll consider when/how the harm happened and if school mirrors the circumstances where the harm could be repeated, or not. For example the risk of exhibitionist behaviour would be more likely in a playground of 30 children. But offending behaviour that depends on privacy, isolation or being online cannot be easily replicated in the playground with 30 children who are adequately monitored, so the risk likelihood is lower.

It may be judged to be unreasonable or impossible to physically separate the children - due to their age, space, or staffing, or many other factors.
But if that is the case then the risk assessment should detail how the risk is mitigated. If this is explained to you, maybe you'll feel more reassured?

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