Benefit fraud blocking child maintenance

[Mummaonherown]

Help!
Between July/October last year my ex claimed UC, he was awarded housing costs around 550 and single person allowance, he was laid off and found a new job on 17th October.
I opened a child maintenance case back in August 23 as he wasn't great at paying, I didn't have to use it, or should I say I let him off without paying a few times.
Anyway he went back to work in October (self employed, paid through CIS straight into bank account) and was paying me money every week until December 6th he told me due to Christmas/not working he can't afford to pay for his son and he would resume payments in January (he still got paid up until 23rd December just didn't give me a penny) I didn't argue I didn't see the point.
He kept delaying payments, told me I'd get money last Friday(17th) then said he didn't have it, so I called CSA.
They proceeded to tell me "because he's on benefits he only has to pay me £7.00 a week" I explained he wasn't on benefits anymore (he told me he had come off) but they told me he was lying and he's been paid on 1.11 1.12 and 1.11.
Obviously I was upset, he knows I've struggled especially over Christmas and he's been pocketing 900 extra he shouldn't have, whether he's using that money for his rent I don't know.
They said I had to report him to benefit fraud, so I did on Monday but I was told the investigation could take 6 months.
Child maintenance have said until they get notification from UC all he has to pay is the £7.00 a week, even though he clears £700.00 a week from his job, and worse still if found to be committing fraud by he will have to pay back money fraudulently claimed to the government by CSA will not backdate all the missed payments during this time and will reassess when the notification comes in, so technically my son loses out around £1700.
Surely there's something I can do, this doesn't sound right, my rent is going up in April and my son starts school.
I havent stopped contact I've always encouraged it (he has him 2 nights a month, his choice)
I work part time and life is expensive enough.
How should I take this further and AIBU to expect back dated payments.
I spoke to my ex on Tuesday and he's blamed me for "ruining him" for reporting him.
Anyone got any advice?

My ex has found the ultimate loophole quit work don't claim benefits his wife pays for everything me personally wouldn't facilitate cutting a child off financially but she has already supported him cutting them off physically so...

I do actually believe there is something wrong with these men like wrong in the head. I just wish they advertised it up front so women could avoid them.

@Theunamedcat I think my ex's new GF will support him in not paying for him, especially now as he told me this morning he's living with her and her 3 children after 5 months.

I think its shameful that they get to deduct child support from there own children because they move in with someone else's who is also supposed to be supported by both parents

If he does depend on the benefits and is lying to OP about working then there won't be any issue, he will have to pay her the £7 per week and will be able to show UC that he's been job searching as required during that time.
If he is working cash in hand, claiming benefits he's not entitled to and refusing to pay for his child then it needs reporting.
You say what if he's relying on that for his rent, but OP is likely relying on CM for her rent considering she's got the DC 5 nights a week so likely either can't work full time or has high childcare costs

It's all shameful including the posters saying OP shouldn't have reported a man who is screwing over his own child while committing benefit fraud. @Mummaonherown you did the right thing, I hope your MP can help, it's a travesty what some parents get away with. It shouldn't be like this, but even on here there's people defending an utter fuckwit who is refusing to support his child when he can afford to. The whole system is appalling.

Under the circumstances I don't think it was wise of you to report him for benefit fraud. But I agree it's infuriating hs was falsely claiming. What a lot of loser men there are around. The problem seems to be getting worse and worse.

Can't believe the people defending him. If he didn't want to get reported for fraud perhaps he shouldn't have defrauded his own son in addition to every other member of the public. A particularly brainless thing for him to have done given the extent to which he has shared his financial information with OP. Not only a selfish thief, but an idiot too.

Cannot believe the comments saying he should not have been reported - that is madness

It's like people don't realise that when you commit benefit fraud, you are stealing from everyone else. The money doesn't come from nowhere! Absolutely mad. If he was stealing £100s a month in old ladies jewellery I don't think anyone would be saying "he might really need that money".

Thank you all to those who are supporting me.
He is still claiming benefits, CMS told me on Monday that his claim is still "live" and he is not declaring any income at all.
He is working, he's at work right now.
He is now living with his new GF and her 3 children in her home, he told me this on Monday (then backtracked when he realised what he said)
So he's claiming money towards his rent which is a council studio flat which was awarded to him through succession of tenancy when his grandmother died 2 years ago (she had a 3 bedroom, they downsized him last year to the studio) he's not even living there now, but I doubt he will give that flat up, he will sublet in time.
In addition to this, CMS cannot take the £7.00 a week from his benefits, as he has "sanctions/and or he applied for a advance loan from UC when first set up" if they take money from him they will see it as below living standard. So I currently get nothing.
I've asked why he's not paying, he ignores me. He hardly sees our son, the only time he wants to is when his gf is around and her children. He's let him down 3 times since last Monday.

My MP replied yesterday, she has wrote to CMS already, although she can't do much about the benefit fraud, I've been assured they will catch up with him.
The idiot gets paid straight into his bank account.
He has an idea that I've reported him so he might get smart, but I doubt it. The damage is done, he's been doing this since mid October.

@EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness I didn't have a choice, he's refusing to pay for his. He got into a new relationship in November and he started not paying from December, lie after lie.

I now know where his money goes, into her household where he now lives.
I was literally in tears on Monday when CMS confirmed he still has a live claim, not declaring income when on Thursday or Friday he told me he's off benefits now. They get a notification within 24 hours so they would have known by Monday morning. Lies again, it's his birthday today 30 so the weekend was a big one!

@Viviennemary why wasn't it wise?

They wouldn’t tell you anything his claim such as payments made without his authority so not sure how you got this information unless you have committed fraud yourself by lying to them!!

@DoodleSquad yes they did. They were the ones who told me he's lying to me, they did not tell me the amounts but if you read my post you would see I was the idiot who set him up on UC last year, he came to me for help. I saw his statement what he was awarded
They are able to tell me he has a live claim, able to tell me he's not declaring income and what date he was paid, he gets paid the 1st of every month.

@DoodleSquad oh and he's openly admitted to me he's still claiming, so please don't assume I'm the one being dishonest

I work for the DWP and any one giving this or any information to anyone not named on the claim or without POA or ATD should be facing an inquiry for GDPR & data protection breaches.

@DoodleSquad well they did, at least 3 times. I told them I knew what he was claiming as I set it up. They wouldn't confirm exact amounts but he's admitted to me, begged me not to report.

Since you work for them, maybe you can help push things through with the fraud team, this man is robbing the system and his child, blatantly!

No, that’s not’s going to happen! I won’t risk my position for a random poster on Mumsnet who has fraudulently obtained claim details about someone she is not entitled to know about. I bid you good day.

@DoodleSquad I'd be happy to let you listen to the recordings, you'd see I'd done no such thing as "fraud" I simply explained my situation and 3 of your colleagues told me the following
He's lying to you, paid 1.11 1.12 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4
Live claim
No declaration of earnings
No amounts shared, no explanation for me not getting the standard £7 per week apart from one of the following
Sanctions
Rent arrears
Awarded a UC advance loan
Would not tell me which.

So please do not assume I'm the fraudster here, your part of the problem
I also bid you good day

I don’t understand the logic of not reporting benefit fraud

Would you let someone steal money from your bank account and say “oh it doesn’t matter he might need it”

The UK is a crazy place

Entire thing is ridiculous! I’m entitled to zero pounds as my ex app is on state benefits but his wife works and he works, his is probs cash in hand but how people think benefit fraud is so low is beyond me. I’ve given up and just work 2 jobs instead paying full tax for their fraudulent benefits no doubt.

This is my story too. Why are there so many loopholes with CMS. In countries like Germany and Italy they would go to prison. I was thinking of creating a petition to ask for stricter measures, checks etc. Is anyone willing to join me in that. Mine makes almost 4k self-employed through a company has a good accountant hides income and claims benefits. They do it because they know they can get away with it. If we as mums woke up and decided I’m going to spend £7 a week on my child we would go to prison. It’s disgusting. This year I want to find a way.

@MJ81 I've just pm'd you

Absolutely.

The system is letting children down and absent parents ( not always men) off the hook.