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Can any parents give me a rough timeline on when to expect these things to get better?

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esgill · 20/09/2024 04:28

I have a baby daughter who is a few weeks off turning 1 and I do love her a lot and things have got easier, slowly, since 4 months. She was a very hard newborn with colic and reflux and almost constantly crying when awake. We don’t have any family around to support us and I was never hugely into babies, if I could I would have skipped ahead to having an older child. As it so happened I loved our baby from day 1 but I feel I’ll enjoy parenting much more when certain milestones happen for us. She is much happier now she is crawling and seems like she’ll be walking soon. But there are some things I am so tired of and I just want to imagine the end is in sight.

When did your little ones…

stop picking things up and putting them in their mouths?

start eating independently with a spoon/fork?

stop trying to get into everything?

stop throwing themselves back into a tantrum when you take something away from them (and any tips for dealing with this for a very young toddler?)?

settle in the car and not throw a tantrum because they can’t stand up and look out the window?

start to enjoy relaxing a bit more, eg just sitting or lying on the sofa with you? My baby is either asleep or crawling around/getting into everything and I’d love for us to enjoy resting a bit more together.

cope with going to restaurants? (We do go out to eat but it’s always extremely rushed and often results in us having to hold her)

seem a little less in danger of injuring themselves if you look away for 5 seconds?

Seem to enjoy hanging out with the family rather than being dragged along?

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Thebellofstclements · 20/09/2024 04:51

Enjoy relaxing with you 😂
Babies/toddlers aren't lazy. Every single thing is new to them. Ours were never on the sofa unless being read to - they would sit for (what felt like!) hours listening and looking at story books - Noah's Ark, Meg&Mog etc. Pretty boring for the parents, my husband even banned one of the books 😂But the babies/toddlers couldnt get enough of it.
I caught my teenager reading a Charlie&Lola book out loud in a holiday let last month. Old habits!
Edited to add: It gets better from 2 and really good from 4. From 8 to 12 is the best fun. Teens are almost adults so massively fun, but not in a kid's way, totally different.
The first 2 years are a slog though; hang on in there!

Mt563 · 20/09/2024 05:05

Really depends on their personality but my little girl is 16 months and I'm loving this stage, she's already so much more her own little person and able to do and communicate her own thing.

With the eating, do you spoon feed her? Since almost the beginning we've basically let feed herself first then finished off with some spoon feeding. She's really come on well with cutlery but she still prefers to use her hands and we just roll with it, apparently this is normal until about two.

I think we're really lucky though that she loves food so that's made restaurants easier too as well.

However, how do they always manage to find the one tiny/ dirty thing to play with/ mouth?! I'll be glad when that's over, love the daily reminder I'm shit at keeping house. She is already getting a little less so though, I can see the end is in sight!

Honestly, I think by 2 you'll be past the worst of this and it will be balanced by them being very much not a baby anymore.

Oncemoreuntothebreachmother · 20/09/2024 05:14

Thebellofstclements · 20/09/2024 04:51

Enjoy relaxing with you 😂
Babies/toddlers aren't lazy. Every single thing is new to them. Ours were never on the sofa unless being read to - they would sit for (what felt like!) hours listening and looking at story books - Noah's Ark, Meg&Mog etc. Pretty boring for the parents, my husband even banned one of the books 😂But the babies/toddlers couldnt get enough of it.
I caught my teenager reading a Charlie&Lola book out loud in a holiday let last month. Old habits!
Edited to add: It gets better from 2 and really good from 4. From 8 to 12 is the best fun. Teens are almost adults so massively fun, but not in a kid's way, totally different.
The first 2 years are a slog though; hang on in there!

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Answers for our 2 weeks off 2 year old…

stop picking things up and putting them in their mouths?
Reliably doesn't do.this. stopped ataybe 18 months

start eating independently with a spoon/fork?
Can eat own weetabix/jelly.with spoon, spaghetti with hands. Still very messy. He isn't geeat with cutlery compared to his peers I think.

stop trying to get into everything?
worse than ever as he is just quicker and more insistent now!

stop throwing themselves back into a tantrum when you take something away from them (and any tips for dealing with this for a very young toddler?)?
Tantrums are epically bad at the moment (but started about 18.months and got gradually worse. We have a new baby in the house though) These are the hardest thing we have to cope with at this point.

settle in the car and not throw a tantrum because they can’t stand up and look out the window?
Still happens, though not for the childminder. Bribes of snacks and phone help.

start to enjoy relaxing a bit more, eg just sitting or lying on the sofa with you? My baby is either asleep or crawling around/getting into everything and I’d love for us to enjoy resting a bit more together.
only with the 1 hr family tv time we've just started allowing (to help with newborn situation)

cope with going to restaurants? (We do go out to eat but it’s always extremely rushed and often results in us having to hold her)
We tried a pub recently and it was harder than ever (again due to tantrums and less interest in distractions like colouring -food was late too so that made things hugely stressful)

seem a little less in danger of injuring themselves if you look away for 5 seconds?
This is definitely easier, there isnslightly.more sense about him. However counter that with he'll just grab your glass of water fromnunder your noae to have a drink then inevitably accidentally knock it over then get very mad and upset because he has soaked himself)

Hope that's not too debbie downerish -we are going through a really rough patch at the moment so may not be indicative of the 2 year old stagepost. I think we had a window of opportunity before the tantrums really kicked innat around 20 months this summer where we were able to go out a bit more for a pint, getting into car was ok (with me 6.minths preg so must have been), supermarket or shops trips etc.

Am also looking forward to chilling on the sofa together and am not a baby person either (though finding the newbornn experience easier second time round just now if of use!)

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RickiRaccoon · 20/09/2024 05:22

18m to 2y it gets easier as they start to listen to instructions and I'd say they'd meet all the milestones you mention (except maybe the restaurant one which varies by child).

Oncemoreuntothebreachmother · 20/09/2024 05:23

Sorry for all the typos. Bleary eyed posting whilst feeding the newborn. On that note, the waking up to feed throughout the night is worse than I remember. Must have blocked it out from last time 😁

PressForLuck · 20/09/2024 05:40

My DD is almost 2. This time our days are about having fun, learning and we even watch a little bit of tv (she likes ‘Hey Duggee’). I had a bit of a more fussy baby than others and my DD could never sit still. I was never one of those mums that could roll out a blanket and my baby cutely stays in place.

DD stopped putting things in her mouth at about 1.5 years.

We are still training for cutlery. She will feed herself fully though but it’s messy when there is a spoon or fork involved. I’m sure with more practice she will be fine.

We haven’t gone to a fancy restaurant but we go to cafes sometimes. I bring a ton of toys and books. I also bring her sippy cup so I can put a little amount of milkshake in for her to enjoy. This is only the last 2-3 months though. She hasn’t done her fussy, irritated cry and kicking legs the last few times.

Overthebow · 20/09/2024 06:04

Se have a 4 year old.

stop picking things up and putting them in their mouths? Stopped about about 2 years old

start eating independently with a spoon/fork? Could use a spoon from around 1 year but even now at 4 gets bored eating and we have to feed her sometimes. This has got slowly better.
stop trying to get into everything? still does

stop throwing themselves back into a tantrum when you take something away from them (and any tips for dealing with this for a very young toddler?)? Still had tantrums but has been able to reason since about 2 so this is a lot better now

settle in the car and not throw a tantrum because they can’t stand up and look out the window? Mine has never done this

start to enjoy relaxing a bit more, eg just sitting or lying on the sofa with you? this is the thing which has got so much better, at 4 she will relax in the sofa with us and we have family film times sometimes. The only thing is it has to be on her terms (something she picks to watch). This happened about 3 years old.

cope with going to restaurants? (We do go out to eat but it’s always extremely rushed and often results in us having to hold her). Still doesn’t really. My dd is extremely active and doesn’t sit still for long. She’s fine if we’re at a pub with a playground in the garden or if we go with friends with DCs to play with.

seem a little less in danger of injuring themselves if you look away for 5 seconds? This got much better abo it age 2. At 4 she goes to play herself in her room and we don’t have to supervise her at all times.

Seem to enjoy hanging out with the family rather than being dragged along? This must be baby dependent as my 9 month old enjoys being with the family and going on days out, I’ve never had to drag either of them along for family days.

Yourethebeerthief · 20/09/2024 07:25

You're going to get a lot of replies laughing at your question about relaxing with your child, but this has become easier for me since 2/2 and a half years old.

Here are answers for my 3 year old, but take this with a massive pinch of salt OP as all babies are different. My son was never the type of kid who threw himself about and had tantrums- that's just a temperament thing, not a parenting issue at your daughter's age. Some kids just do that and sone don't. He was, however, massively energetic and needed to be out all day long or I'd go insane. He's calmed down massively now, but we still spend most of the day outdoors.

So, for my 3 year old:

When did your little ones…

stop picking things up and putting them in their mouths? He still does this often now. I guess some kids are just orally fixated for longer. He's always got his fingers in his mouth too.

start eating independently with a spoon/fork? I don't recall. We did baby led weaning and he just ate what we ate. He's definitely been proficient with a fork and spoon for well over a year now

stop trying to get into everything? still curious. I still wouldn't take the baby gate off of our kitchen or leave him alone in the kitchen as nothing is toddler proofed in there and you never know!

stop throwing themselves back into a tantrum when you take something away from them (and any tips for dealing with this for a very young toddler?)? as I say, this is temperamental. Mine never did this. Just breezily move on and ignore tantrumming. But also make sure you're picking your battles. Tantrums might be fuelled by a sense of injustice. Otherwise, distract, ignore, and move on.

settle in the car and not throw a tantrum because they can’t stand up and look out the window? never had this issue. Let her have a minute to stand up and look out the windows, then stick a melty puff or something not too messy in one hand and a fidget type toy in the other and get her strapped in. Bright and breezy and just ignore it.

start to enjoy relaxing a bit more, eg just sitting or lying on the sofa with you? My baby is either asleep or crawling around/getting into everything and I’d love for us to enjoy resting a bit more together. Mumsnet will collectively piss themselves laughing at this one. Your baby is doing what babies must do if they have a certain temperament. Some babies are chill, some are curious and just want to be on the go. Mine was on the go really young and never stopped. But he's much more relaxed at 3 years old now.

We still go out most of the day as he thrives outdoors and it tires him out for bed at 6pm. But, he woke up at 6:40, and is now playing quietly in his room with a cup of milk and a couple of pancakes. He's reading his books and playing with his toys and I told him I'm not ready to be up yet so I'm relaxing in bed for a while. I'll get up at 7:30 probably. Eventually I hear him put a card in his Yoto player. He's very content, but most importantly he's at an age where I can explain and reason things with him. He knows to stay in his room quietly playing now until I'm up. We're also able to enjoy a cuddle on the couch and a bit of telly in the morning, or he'll play with his toys and leave me in peace to have a cup of tea on the couch. Movie nights with a pizza in front of a feature length kids film are possible now. Other posters will have children of the same age who cannot do these things, as with everything it's temperamental above all.

cope with going to restaurants? (We do go out to eat but it’s always extremely rushed and often results in us having to hold her) he's great in restaurants and cafes now but of course it wasn't like that at one year old. This is one that you have to put the work in to over time. Don't expect her to be settled for long in restaurants now. At that age you take everything you can to distract them, tag team taking them for little walks, and order only a main and get out asap. You just build this up over time. Even now if we're going to a cafe or restaurant we take a book and a sticker book with us, and I make sure he's had a really good run around outdoors before we can expect him to be settled for a couple of hours in a restaurant. Short cafe trip = book or sticker book, couple of hours in a restaurant=books, stickers, little fidget toys, small toy cars in a tin etc. As he gets older this will change I'm sure to just colouring in books or something like that.

seem a little less in danger of injuring themselves if you look away for 5 seconds? depends on the child. This started young for my son because he was up and about from a young age I think. He's just very physically able so whereas some of his little friends have had multiple A&E trips for injuries, he's never had more than a bruise here and there.

Seem to enjoy hanging out with the family rather than being dragged along? I think this got easier for us when his language got to the point where we could reason more and have little conversations, so from the age of two onwards. He's very much a little friend now but of course at 3 we still have moments. Toddlers are often quite selfish by nature. They learn to come and go with other people over time. Again, it's easier if they have a more easy going temperament and/or the language skills to talk things through.

It all takes time and hard work OP. I'm really big on putting the hard work in now for an easier time in the future. Playing the long game in the early days to get mornings like this one now where my son is still playing in his room nearly an hour later, and I'm only now considering getting up for the day.

esgill · 20/09/2024 09:36

Overthebow · 20/09/2024 06:04

Se have a 4 year old.

stop picking things up and putting them in their mouths? Stopped about about 2 years old

start eating independently with a spoon/fork? Could use a spoon from around 1 year but even now at 4 gets bored eating and we have to feed her sometimes. This has got slowly better.
stop trying to get into everything? still does

stop throwing themselves back into a tantrum when you take something away from them (and any tips for dealing with this for a very young toddler?)? Still had tantrums but has been able to reason since about 2 so this is a lot better now

settle in the car and not throw a tantrum because they can’t stand up and look out the window? Mine has never done this

start to enjoy relaxing a bit more, eg just sitting or lying on the sofa with you? this is the thing which has got so much better, at 4 she will relax in the sofa with us and we have family film times sometimes. The only thing is it has to be on her terms (something she picks to watch). This happened about 3 years old.

cope with going to restaurants? (We do go out to eat but it’s always extremely rushed and often results in us having to hold her). Still doesn’t really. My dd is extremely active and doesn’t sit still for long. She’s fine if we’re at a pub with a playground in the garden or if we go with friends with DCs to play with.

seem a little less in danger of injuring themselves if you look away for 5 seconds? This got much better abo it age 2. At 4 she goes to play herself in her room and we don’t have to supervise her at all times.

Seem to enjoy hanging out with the family rather than being dragged along? This must be baby dependent as my 9 month old enjoys being with the family and going on days out, I’ve never had to drag either of them along for family days.

I should emphasise in case it’s misunderstood: I don’t mean literally having to drag her out. She likes being out and about. But she is clearly not gaining the same pleasure from travel, restaurants, experiences as we are and as older children do. I’m looking forward to when it feels more like doing things together rather than carrying a little person along who may/may not be interested and is not making memories.

Thanks for all these answers. Seems it gets a bit better by 2 and then easier again by 2-3. The idea of her understanding some basic instructions come 18 months would be amazing. She already understands ‘wave to daddy’ / ‘let’s say hi/bye to daddy’ and can say ‘water’ so hoping she figures out more soon…

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Elisabeth3468 · 20/09/2024 21:43

I would say it got slightly "easier" from about 2 years old. But then he was a very colicky, wakeful baby. And they hit 2 and new challenges come. Sorry to break it to you 🤣. The baby stage is hard though and I much prefer the toddler stage despite the defiance.

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