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Mother in laws partner

36 replies

TicklishNavyBiscuit · 29/07/2024 23:31

Hello I just needed advice from other people who may have been through the same thing I’ve been going through for the past year and a half.
I don’t like my mother in laws partner she’s made rude comments towards me made me feel very unwelcome in there home and hasn’t treated me in the best of ways, so I already had a bad impression of her and I had only been with my partner for 3/4 months. I fell pregnant and straight away my mother in law referred her partner as being called “nana” which I wasn’t okay with, she was being rude with me and saying hurtful things so why should I allow her to have that title to my baby. My partner also agreed with how I felt but didn’t want to say anything, he didn’t want to cause any arguments and put stress on me. As times gone on my baby is nearly 4 months now and we’ve allowed my mother in laws partner to be apart of our daughters life and we’re fine with her holding her or playing with her but we’re still not okay with her being called nanna. My partner decided to actually tell his mum a few months back how he felt how I felt and what we didn’t like, his mum was shocked we felt like that and basically told us it’s not fair to not involve her partner but that’s not what we were trying to do we were actually just saying she can still be apart of her life but not to be referred to as “nana”. So with us telling her how we felt we thought things would change but things only got worse his mum was pushing onto our baby quite a lot that she has two nanas (I know our baby is young and doesn’t understand but it’s not the point when she does understand it’s not fair that’s been pushed onto her) We also kindly asked his mum if she could stop pushing onto our daughter that her partner was her nana (when we didn’t want that) and that we’d allow our daughter to decide when she’s older on her own but until then we do not want it to be pushed onto her that much that she just automatically calls her nana without getting to think about it. He then spoke with his mum again about the situation and said the same thing as last time, and yet again his mum is still calling her partner “nana” and says it to our daughter as well, we honestly do not know what to do about it, some people will say why not just allow it but we don’t want to we’re not keen on the person, she’s very controlling of his mother and doesn’t seem to let her have a good relationship with her grandchild, always has to stick her nose into every conversation that’s had, we can’t send things personally to his mum we have to send it to a group chat so she also can see what’s been said or any photos, she’s just toxic and I just do not like that, as a mum I should be allowed to place boundaries and rules and for people to listen them and follow them but they don’t seem to want to. What worries us more than anything is if my mother in law wants to have our daughter over night or for the day that the whole nana thing is going to get pushed onto her and we’re not going to know about it. Any advice is welcome.

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Mum5net · 29/07/2024 23:41

Is this a hill to die on, OP?
Your little one is tiny.
They won’t be aware for another 18 months the difference between Nanna1 and Nanna2.
A lot can happen in 18 months. Your MiL and partner by the sounds of it will not be playing a major role in your DC’s life because of their toxicity

IDontLoveTheWayYouLie · 29/07/2024 23:45

When your baby gets a bit bigger and realises what names to call everyone, just keep saying nanny and x (whatever her name is) when you talk about them.

If they're as bad as you say, you won't be seeing loads of them anyway.

Cuppachino · 30/07/2024 01:12

we can’t send things personally to his mum we have to send it to a group chat so she also can see what’s been said or any photos

So this woman is controlling the whole family? Stick to your guns OP, she sounds an absolute nightmare.

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RappersNeedChapstick · 30/07/2024 06:42

agree with others. Calling MIL's Partner Nanna isn't something I'd cause a rift over.

However I would trust your senses over letting your DD stay over. There is no way I'd be allowing that to happen. You've already said she's been mean to you more than once. I wouldn't be trusting her with my baby.

mindutopia · 30/07/2024 17:59

Our mum’s partners have always been called their names. Actually we are NC with both of them now (they are abusive), but if we refer to them at all, it’s by their names. Because they aren’t our dc’s grandparents. Just like ‘nana’ is not your baby’s nana.

For me, it’s definitely a hill to die on. Because if I think someone isn’t a good person, I don’t want to create a false sense of familiarity for my kids so that they think this person is someone they can trust - when they can’t. If I can’t speak up and set healthy boundaries, how can I expect my dc to? They’re only kids and they learn from us.

Stop dancing to this woman’s tune. Only send things to your MIL personally. Call her by her first name. Don’t invite her around. You can be polite at family events without fostering a close grandparent like relationship with your child.

FictionalCharacter · 30/07/2024 20:06

Cuppachino · 30/07/2024 01:12

we can’t send things personally to his mum we have to send it to a group chat so she also can see what’s been said or any photos

So this woman is controlling the whole family? Stick to your guns OP, she sounds an absolute nightmare.

That’s what jumped out to me to. She’s controlling towards the MIL, and nasty to the OP. Someone like that hasn’t earned the right to be seen and treated as part of the family.

DottyLottieLou · 02/08/2024 06:46

I don't think what this person is called is your main worry here. If she is as bad as you say she shouldn't be involved at all. That is the hill to die on.

Sugargliderwombat · 02/08/2024 08:13

I think stop worrying about the name and focus on trying to keep this person away from your child (if it really is as bad as you say here regarding the controlling nature, rudeness etc).

SuzySheepsSleepy · 02/08/2024 08:27

We had exactly this. We just kept referring to the partner by their name instead of “Grandpa”. My MIL went through a period of referring to him as Grandpa in cards, directly, etc and we just held strong and never once did it ourselves. We never had to have a conversation about it. It took 2-3 months but the situation was clear from that point on.

SuzySheepsSleepy · 02/08/2024 08:29

I should add we have never permitted MIL to babysit our children due to our dislike of the partner. So they can spend time with them but never alone. He is awful.

RampantIvy · 02/08/2024 08:31

we can’t send things personally to his mum

Why not? Does she not have her own phone?

Shinyandnew1 · 02/08/2024 08:33

What worries us more than anything is if my mother in law wants to have our daughter over night or for the day that the whole nana thing is going to get pushed onto her and we’re not going to know about it. Any advice is welcome.

Well, surely there’s a very easy way to stop this happening!

Ilovelurchers · 02/08/2024 08:40

I really don't think the name issue is the thing to make a stand on here, though I totally understand your concerns about this woman and the way she controls your MIL.

My talking about having two Nanas, and referring to her partner as nana, I wonder if MIL is expressing some anxiousness that her granddaughter will accept her same sex relationship as equally valid as an opposite sex one? And whether she sees your refusal to acknowledge her partner as "nana" as a form of subconscious homophobia?

I am NOT saying this is what is driving you at all - I am sure it isn't. But I just wonder if it seems that way to MIL, and that is why she is making such a big deal about it?

CosyLemur · 02/08/2024 09:52

Your child will never choose to call her nana if you don't give her the option now! Why would a child suddenly start calling someone nana?
I think you're both being ridiculous and I think that without realising it you're both being a bit homophobic!

TicklishNavyBiscuit · 02/08/2024 10:40

RampantIvy · 02/08/2024 08:31

we can’t send things personally to his mum

Why not? Does she not have her own phone?

I’m not sure you understand what I’ve put, she’s going to end up calling her partner nana if they continue to push it onto her, and she does have a phone but her partner reads everything we send and basically if we send her anything privately she hints at us to send it into the group chat so we’re not leaving her partner out, the whole things complicated and there’s a lot more to it which I haven’t said as I could be all day. And also we’re not been homophobic at all I have nothing against other people and what they do, I didn’t mention they’re in a three way relationship so there’s his mum his dad and there partner.

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Comicalanatomical · 02/08/2024 10:44

I’ve been married 28 years and have a thirty year old lovely step son. I’d be very upset if I wasn’t called nana when he has his little ones. Not sure if it’s the same. How long has the woman been the partner of your other half’s mother. If she’s been in his life a long time then she should be nana.

TicklishNavyBiscuit · 02/08/2024 10:46

Also we just think our daughter should grow up knowing who her real grandparents are and who aren’t but if she feels like calling them nana or grandad then that’s her choice but I want her to have that option and for people not to put something into her head. The problem is we can’t cut her out our daughters life’s it’ll cause really bad arguments and my partner wouldn’t get to see his mum and dad anymore they’ll choose her over there child, I’m having to make excuses up so my daughter doesn’t sleep over night at there’s or doesn’t have a day out with them because I personally don’t like there partner she’s said some weird things since my child was born (things that nobody would say to a new mum) she wasn’t able to have children of her own which is awful but I feel like she tries mothering my child due to this.

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TicklishNavyBiscuit · 02/08/2024 10:47

6 years, and there’s three of them, so she’s got her nana and grandad and then another women who we don’t want to be called nana she’s not a nice person she’s very toxic and she doesn’t deserve to be a nana with the way she acts.

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Hoppinggreen · 02/08/2024 10:49

TicklishNavyBiscuit · 02/08/2024 10:40

I’m not sure you understand what I’ve put, she’s going to end up calling her partner nana if they continue to push it onto her, and she does have a phone but her partner reads everything we send and basically if we send her anything privately she hints at us to send it into the group chat so we’re not leaving her partner out, the whole things complicated and there’s a lot more to it which I haven’t said as I could be all day. And also we’re not been homophobic at all I have nothing against other people and what they do, I didn’t mention they’re in a three way relationship so there’s his mum his dad and there partner.

They are in a what now?
Assuming they are all consenting adults its up to them what they do but you are allowed to choose how much anyone is in your childs life.
Just keep the relationship with your MIL (and your FIL if you want) but you are under no obligation to have one with this woman, what your MIL refers to her as is irrelevant. Just keep using her name and your child will choose what to call her

AndieC1969 · 02/08/2024 10:50

She sounds like a nasty, controlling, narcissist.
Controls your MIL & trying to control you through your MIL.

I'd, quite pointedly, start referring to her as " Not Nana "
This woman is toxic. Do you really want her around your child

TomatoSandwiches · 02/08/2024 11:02

She sounds controlling and oppressive, I wouldn't be letting any of them have my child for anything but supervised visits.
Just keep referring to her by her actual name in any correspondence.

mindutopia · 02/08/2024 11:24

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Mum5net · 02/08/2024 11:27

OP, something in your posts points me to think both your parents in law are being 'groomed' by this woman and that maybe, they are being financially and/or emotionally abused as well?

RampantIvy · 02/08/2024 11:50

Mum5net · 02/08/2024 11:27

OP, something in your posts points me to think both your parents in law are being 'groomed' by this woman and that maybe, they are being financially and/or emotionally abused as well?

That crossed my mind as well.

This woman sounds very controlling.

ShellNPride · 02/08/2024 13:51

Personally I wouldn't back down. I'd send messages privately and if a hint comes to send it to the group chat ignore it or go with "it's OK you have it now so can forward it on if you like" enough times of that and she will stop asking, you could even leave the group chat if it serves no real purpose.
As for the Nanna thing I think I understand where your coming from and that it has nothing to do with a same sex relationship or this partner not being a blood relative but the actual personality and behaviour of the person.
Again your baby is so young enough times of correcting "nanna" to the partners name and the same in cards etc and they will stop. It could be the partner pressuring your MIL and she is piggy in the middle and trying to keep the peace in what sounds like an already controlling relationship.