5 in Sep and still in night nappies ?!?!

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My dd has been potty trained since 2 and 3 months but never really showed any indication of being dry during the night . I also subsequently had two other babies and so the time was never right to tackle night time potty training. However recently, I have tried to enforce the concept of being dry at night as in all honesty, I felt that she should be out of a nappy at night and that it was pure laziness that was keeping her in them. She would wake up dry but still pee in nappy rather than go to the toilet ! So 1.5 weeks ago, decided to go cold turkey and removed nappy, all with her happy consent , place towel on bed and then lift her out before i went to bed, and to move her night milk to her dinner time ...Aside from 3 dry nights, she has wet herself and stayed alseep each night !!! I am appalled that she is able to ignore the dampness and also shocked that we seem to have made no headway ! I am really reluctant to put nappy back on, but in your opinions, is that what I should do and just let her decide when she is 5/6 ??? That just seems so old for a girl who is emotionally mature for her age ... Your advice soooo much appreciated

there is a difference between emotional maturity and continence at night!
you say you lift her - what time? Does she always pee then? So when does she wet herself - after that? It sounds like she is an incredibly heavy sleeper. She has had 3 dry nights, so she CAN do it, but it sounds like her desire to sleep is currently greater than her desire to stay wet.

I'd keep trying for a while - perhaps lift her a little later than you have been, and maybe also start a star chart with a small prize for being dry all night, working up to a bigger one for being dry for eg 2 nights in a row, or a week, or whatever. Things like a magazine or a small toy or something. That might sit in her subconsciousness enough to cause her to wake if she feels she might or is beginning to pee - worth a try! If that doesn't work then I wouldn't get cross with her- just stop it for a while and try again in 6 months or so.

whoops I mean her desire to stay DRY obviously!

Tis normal. My son was 6 before out of em.

Lots of layers on bed: waterproof sheet, fitted sheet, waterproof sheet, fitted sheet, towels or bed mat, sheet...

Then just peel them off as she wees.

she'll get used to it.

my dd2 was 5 years 5 months old when she decided to be dry at night. she just decided herself one day and that was that. very strange

your Dd is only 4 1/2 - thats quite young. its quite common , more often in boys i think

i think the best way to approach this is ...........bribery!!generally with overpriced over rated comics.....

buy 1 packet of pullups - if she can keep it dry she can put 30 magic pennies in the jar (she can decorate the jar with stickers herself) next night if the pullup was dry reuse it (theres method in this stay with it)if she wets it oh dear what a shame- at the end of the week her pennies can buy comic ....the longer she stys dry the thinner the pullup gets til really its nothing thicker than pair of knickers!

also if she cant do it she isnt mature enough and you cannot force night time toileting i think lifting her for a wee at night is a good idea but you need to cut down a tad on fluids after 6 and keep reminding her ...is she so exhusted shes sleeping so deeply shesimply cannot wake?

shes only 4 and theres a lot of time before sept nd is it such big deal if shes not dry t night? if it seriously concerns you the health visitor may refer you to an enuresis clinic but my mthod is tried and tested by mny and it seems to work.

a good idea also is too line the mattress half way up with a thick refuse sack put a towel over the top then a fitted sheet then another towel to soak up any wet

my ds2 sounds soooo like your dd. then on Monday this week we went to the park after school, it rained, all came home filthy muddy and cold. Nice baths all round. As it was only tea time i didn't put pull-up's on the youngest two. DH put DSes to bed so it got forgotten. bingo - dry night
then he liked it - and rather than having his customary three cups of tea before bed he settled for one, his idea. We get him up at 10pm ish (usually asleep between 7:30 & 8) and last night DH took him about 1am too. His birthday is also Sept, he's 4 n half. Had resigned myself to him wearing nappies in bed if he had to til he was 7, just couldn't see how he would 'get' it. Made quite a plan of it around christmas, that he wasn't going to be wearing nappies in bed when father christmas came - but the whole thing went tits up and even in cloth nappies (which is what he had as a baby til 3 in the daytime) he would wake up soaked in the morning, apparently oblivious.
Maybe go back to the nappies for a bit, then in a few weeks "forget" without making a deal of it? Have to say, it's worked for us at blardy last!!

I dont think its normal each child is different my daughter more or less was dry at night when she was day time.

i would take her out of nappies/dry nites if u still use them at all.

and when ur going to bd lift her and put her on the toilet, this helped us at the time

also just make sure her bed is well covered with plastic sheeting she soon wnt like the wet feeling and will stop doing it.

but her time will come trust me

good luck

x

children can not be dry until a hormone kicks in

it can kick in any time between 2 and 7+lots

Drs arnt bothered and dont even consider it a 'problem' until 7... (lots of children are still wetting muc older than 7... even teenagers, its just that people dont publicise it)

if she is wet all / most nights then why not make life easier for both of you and go back to nappies?

My son was 9 before he was dry. He was dry during the day from 3 and dry at night sometimes from 4 but it was sporadic. We took the approach that it wasn't worth stressing about and put him in 'big boys' pyjama pants, which he was very happy about.

It was suggested to us when he was nearly 9 that his bladder didn't really know what it was like to be really full (he wasn't big on drinking) and that we should give him loads to drink during the day so that his bladder would get really full and his body would get used to the feeling. We did this by sending him to school with bottles of squash (with the school's permission) and he drank loads and loads all day. Within a few weeks he was dry at night so it worked a treat .

DD is 4.11 and we tried a few months ago to go without night-time nappies but had too many wet beds. We have just tried about 3-4 weeks ago and have had just 2 wet beds in that time, both times because we forgot to get her to have a wee before going to bed.

I haven't lifted her, given her any incentives, restricted/moved/increased drinks or anything. She was obviously not ready the first time and was this time.

thanks for all your suggestions and shared experiences . We are giving tonight a last chance and if she wees again without waking, I am going to put her back into nappies to see if that will help her to stop as she really doesn't want to wear her nappy . We have cut evening drinks way down and lift out of bed around 10.30 but seems not to make much difference ! Wish me luck