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What age does Private Child Maintenance Agreement stop?

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PinkBubblesxx · 22/05/2024 20:01

Hi All 🙂
Hoping anyone could share some advice on the following….
My partner has a child (consequence of a one night stand many many years ago!). A private child maintenance agreement was mutually agreed upon when the child was born. I believe that there may have been a basic handwritten note created and signed by both parents but this agreement has been pretty much a verbal agreement throughout the years.
Background on the situation and character of the mother, my partner has been there since day one, paying child maintenance and any additional costs for school, trips, birthdays / Christmas, clothing / etc etc with him looking after the child Fri to Sun every other weekend and when the mother went on holidays. He of course wanted to be in the child’s life as much possible even though this has been challenging at times. As the mother is notoriously difficult and spiteful at times stopping him from seeing his child for no real reason. This case has never been through any courts or CSA as my partner has always tried to be amicable for the child’s sake. To paint a clearer picture the mother….she has 2 other children (younger than my partners) who we know for one of them, she has been hot and cold throughout the child’s life with not letting the father see them. Again he’s always paid his way and taken it as far as courts numerous times, where they have court ordered and demanded that there is no real reason for the mother to stop the father from seeing his child. But she continually breaks the court orders and there is no punishment for that, so he’s back to square one. Sadly he hasn’t seen his child for about 5 years now since they were around 10 years old. He always hand delivers birthday / Christmas cards through the door for her but the mother just spitefully pushes them back out. 

Anyway….about 5 years ago the mother got with someone and fell pregnant quickly again but actually had a short term relationship with this guy (he ended up leaving her as she cheated on him).At the time when he moved in to the family home, both children (my partners & the other father I mentioned above) surprisingly all of a sudden stopped all contact with both fathers (which wasn’t surprising!), saying that they didn’t want to see them anymore etc etc clearly it was the case the mother was trying the phase out both fathers as this new guy was on the scene. Obviously this massively hurt both fathers but they still continued to pay their way and message their children asking when they could see them. Which they would either get ignored or rude blunt responses from the children directly. 

My partner hasn’t seen or spoken to his child for 4 years now and has pretty much given up thinking he will ever see her again (even though she’s just 15mins down the road and not like the other side of the world based on how the mother & children behave towards the father's). Both fathers and the grandparents (who also get given this cold blunt behaviour and haven’t seen them for the same length of time as the fathers). 

My question is….my partners child will be 19 this year and will be finishing A Levels. We have no idea what their next plans are as they have stopped all communication with my partner and his parents - even though they still message her which gets read but just gets plain ignored. 


Does his child maintenance stop this year for the 19 year old child? From research we believe so especially where this is a private agreement (as it’s less complicated than CSA agreements) and where the child would have officially finished education August this year and will be turning 19. Plus we know they work but this may only be a few hours a week inbetween school. 

Before any sarcastic comments are made this isn’t just another father just trying to get out of paying for his child. It’s good fathers being tormented by a mean mother knowing how to abuse the system. Ideally he would love to see her and have normal relationship with them but unfortunately the mother’s bitter spiteful ways seemed to have rubbed off on to them and decided to take that road of being unesscessary spiteful to the fathers and grandparents and cutting them out completely. My partners child is an adult now and knows better and the other is nearly an adult and also knows what is right and wrong. If the relationship was normal than he would continue to support his child if they were thinking about university etc but give and take how mean and spiteful they have been over the years he just wants to cut ties as it seems that is what they want over the last few years.

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RecycleMePlease · 22/05/2024 20:08

Normally it would say on a legal agreement - for instance, mine stops at 23 if they are still in full time education. 18 otherwise.

TinyYellow · 22/05/2024 20:14

A private arrangement is just that, so it’s up to the people that made the arrangement. Personally, I think it’s fair to provide financial support until the end of education so it depends on whether they start full time work or go to university.

It is irrelevant that you think they have been mean, parents should financially support their children until they have had the opportunity to successfully launch themselves into independence.

RandomMess · 22/05/2024 20:15

You can stop a private agreement whenever you want, they can then go to CMS which is until the September after they finish school/college and under 20 or they start an apprenticeship which ever is soonest.

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wutheringkites · 22/05/2024 20:21

Yes, he can stop whenever he wants to but if he were in the CMS system, it would stop this August.

wutheringkites · 22/05/2024 20:23

TinyYellow · 22/05/2024 20:14

A private arrangement is just that, so it’s up to the people that made the arrangement. Personally, I think it’s fair to provide financial support until the end of education so it depends on whether they start full time work or go to university.

It is irrelevant that you think they have been mean, parents should financially support their children until they have had the opportunity to successfully launch themselves into independence.

But if the child goes to university then he can provide support directly to the child.

It wouldn't make sense to pay the mother, especially if you aren't sure of the dynamics between her and the child.

HeresMyBreakdown · 22/05/2024 20:25

Very odd story that you know so much about someone who was a ONS, I don't know what my ex did after we split in this much detail and he was not a ONS.

Also doubt there is no 15 yo that can't independently get in touch with a parent these days if they didn't want to.

If this is a real post, just stop paying if it's an issue I'm sure CMS will be in touch

Fairydustandsparklylights · 22/05/2024 20:29

It ends in August. Cancel the direct debit as soon as the payment comes out on the first. If the mother and (nearly adult) child choose not to have the father in their lives, then he owes no financial support in adulthood and when at university. They made their choice and now your dp can finish his financial tie.

Mockingjay123 · 22/05/2024 20:30

Fairydustandsparklylights · 22/05/2024 20:29

It ends in August. Cancel the direct debit as soon as the payment comes out on the first. If the mother and (nearly adult) child choose not to have the father in their lives, then he owes no financial support in adulthood and when at university. They made their choice and now your dp can finish his financial tie.

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SqueezyYoghurt · 22/05/2024 20:38

For someone who decided to shack up with a man that never did enough as a Dad, you make alot of judgements about other women. It is a private arrangement so really it is about what is morally right. 19 year olds cannot support themselves these days so he should still be paying child maintenance for a few years yet.

youhavenoidea123 · 22/05/2024 20:44

I don't believe a 14 year old child had no means to contact their dad if that is what they wanted.

There is a lot more to this story than you are sharing.

I am divorced from my DC dad. There is no way at 14 they would have stopped contact at my instruction. In fact I met my new and current partner when my DD was 14. She had less contact with her dad than you are describing, but still wouldn't have wanted it to stop.

In terms of maintenance you can stop paying August this year. I have a private arrangement with my Ex. He has continued to support while both DC are at uni.

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Spirallingdownwards · 11/07/2024 09:13

SqueezyYoghurt · 22/05/2024 20:38

For someone who decided to shack up with a man that never did enough as a Dad, you make alot of judgements about other women. It is a private arrangement so really it is about what is morally right. 19 year olds cannot support themselves these days so he should still be paying child maintenance for a few years yet.

But legally he does not have to.

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