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Is walking away justified?

17 replies

EvoDad · 24/04/2024 08:49

Earlier in the year, me and my ex had a gorgeous baby girl. I had moved in with my ex, her home, and sacrificed everything to be with her. As she wouldnt allow a lot of my stuff in her tiny house. I set up roots in a new area and fell for this woman in a huge way. She was riddled with issues, insecurities, emotions, trust. The relationship was difficult at times, but I worshipped her, never fallen in love with someone so hard, I literally adored my ex. Physical attraction was limited, I never truly fancied her, but the connection was enough. I had secretly stayed in touch early on with 2 friends (she encouraged I disconnect from friends and I pandered) both friends advised me this woman was a huge toxic red flag.

Fast forward, I'm isolated, at the mercy of "her" home, her "car" no friends dont know the area, and have little. She controlled and manipulated our relationship, and would go to extreme measures to elevate herself, she was a nightmare, I left several times. She was self obscessed, selfish and pure toxic. Mid way she wanted a baby, she always did, we was going through a good period, and I sadly agreed, we tried, and she got caught fast. We broke up for a week in January due to an issue she had with one of my other children an 8 year old, was the final straw. We got back together after a week.

Things settled, I did everything for her, supported the pregnancy and supported her in hospital. Cut the cord, was a proud Dad. After 1 week home with baby, my ex turned, she asked me to leave several times, I packed my stuff but pleaded we try fix us, there was no interest. Final day she told me to go, so I left. I didnt want too. She didnt want me to go. We likely both thought within a few days we'd sort us and be back together. We argued in the following days and hurt each other deeply. Creating a barrier for reconciliation. She used baby as a weapon, restricting access, acting in ways to make me jelous, question things, and was, and is as awkward as possible. She's acting like I never existed, hasnt asked where I am, or how I am. She ignores all comms except access related.

I rented a room in the area to be around, but shes told me over and over to go away, leave tge area. She wants no support, no access. She's allowed 2 hours, every other weekend. She's moved on with her life so fast, and is not the woman I thought she was. Mentally this has broke me. I've lost my job and being forced to give up my lease costing me £2000, and relocating back to hometown. I serve no purpose there.

Interacting with her is draining, when I see her I want her back, and ask, she thrives on this and mocks it, spits in my face verbally, no interest. She has everything, money, house, car, family, baby, just as she wanted. I have nothing. Going on access is crippling me mentally, its hard, and my baby doesnt know me. Mother wont even let me take her on my own, she insists being there. My plans to get settled then absolutely crush her in court, I have previous gfs whom I have kids with who have offered to support me, spoke to solicitors, and been advised she has no leg to stand on. She's not aware, but court is happening as soon as funds permit. The area causes severe anxiety, as its her world, I've rarely been there and quit my job due to sickness.

I feel like stepping back, move away, and totally go no contact then come back with a court order, this could take upto a year. But dealing with her now is seriously making me ill. Since the split I've lost 15lbs, not eating or sleeping and having panic attacks. I'm room searching, job hunting, its all too much. Is it wrong to cut them both out completely while I heal?

OP posts:
Moier · 24/04/2024 09:21

Bloody hell.. where are these scammers coming from?
This is just about word for word on the Romance scammer forum I'm on..
He's hoping someone will PM him.. then hoping whoever will fall for him and then it goes from there.

PoppingTomorrow · 24/04/2024 09:24

My plans to get settled then absolutely crush her in court, I have previous gfs whom I have kids with

What a prince

MILTOBE · 24/04/2024 09:24

The person writing the thread is male, @Moier, so who are you talking about when you say 'he'?

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HowardTJMoon · 24/04/2024 09:34

This is clearly a toxic relationship that is not healthy for either of you. But, as one bloke to another, you're really not helping yourself here. She is under no obligation to ask where or how you are. All she has to talk to you about is your child. That's it. I'm guessing your child is only a few months old so access at that age is tricky. There are no hard and fast rules but it's rare for a child that long to spend long periods of time away from their primary carer. This will change as your child gets older.

You say that whenever you see her you want her back and ask her. She seems to have repeatedly made it very, very clear that she's not interested but you don't seem to be understanding this. It's quite possible that she dreads having to interact with you as much as you dread interacting with her. She seems to be going at least some way in supporting you having a relationship with your child, admittedly not as much as you may want. But if every time she does this, you're hounding her to get back together with you rather than you focussing on your child, she's probably going to be questioning your motives here.

You need to ask yourself what is it about the relationship with a woman that you describe as a nightmare, self-obsessed, selfish and pure toxic that you want to experience again? Do you realistically think it'd be different next time? She's still the same person, as are you. I'm sure you know the old adage about the definition of insanity as doing the same things again while expecting different results.

Trust me, I know what it's like to have to co-parent with someone who is difficult to deal with and I sympathise with you. But you need to focus on your child, not getting back with your ex. My recommendation would be to turn up for every agreed contact session but only ask your ex questions about your child's health, developmental progress, and what kinds of things he/she likes and dislikes. That will put you in a much better light if/when this finally does get to court.

On the other hand, if you really can't stop yourself from begging her back every time you see her then it might be better for everyone for you to walk away for a while and work on yourself. I'd recommend in particular working on why all your previous relationships failed, what red flags you ignored, and what you'd want for a healthier future relationship with someone new. I've found counselling really helpful for that kind of thing.

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2024 09:39

I think you might need a job and some money to ‘crush’ her in court. Neither of which you have.
Also no court is going to grant you unsupervised access if you disappear from your kids life and then reappear after a year or more.
Sounds like you have multiple kids by different women. Focus on being a dad, support your children and stay single

Moier · 24/04/2024 09:49

@MILTOBE
The OP
Third scammer this week.

Moier · 24/04/2024 09:59

I'm isolated, at the mercy of "her" home, her "car" no friends dont know the area, and have little. She controlled and manipulated our relationship, and would go to extreme measures to elevate herself, she was a nightmare, I left several times. She was self obscessed, selfish and pure toxic.

Moier · 24/04/2024 09:59

That was sent a victim of a scammer

EvoDad · 24/04/2024 10:11

HowardTJMoon · 24/04/2024 09:34

This is clearly a toxic relationship that is not healthy for either of you. But, as one bloke to another, you're really not helping yourself here. She is under no obligation to ask where or how you are. All she has to talk to you about is your child. That's it. I'm guessing your child is only a few months old so access at that age is tricky. There are no hard and fast rules but it's rare for a child that long to spend long periods of time away from their primary carer. This will change as your child gets older.

You say that whenever you see her you want her back and ask her. She seems to have repeatedly made it very, very clear that she's not interested but you don't seem to be understanding this. It's quite possible that she dreads having to interact with you as much as you dread interacting with her. She seems to be going at least some way in supporting you having a relationship with your child, admittedly not as much as you may want. But if every time she does this, you're hounding her to get back together with you rather than you focussing on your child, she's probably going to be questioning your motives here.

You need to ask yourself what is it about the relationship with a woman that you describe as a nightmare, self-obsessed, selfish and pure toxic that you want to experience again? Do you realistically think it'd be different next time? She's still the same person, as are you. I'm sure you know the old adage about the definition of insanity as doing the same things again while expecting different results.

Trust me, I know what it's like to have to co-parent with someone who is difficult to deal with and I sympathise with you. But you need to focus on your child, not getting back with your ex. My recommendation would be to turn up for every agreed contact session but only ask your ex questions about your child's health, developmental progress, and what kinds of things he/she likes and dislikes. That will put you in a much better light if/when this finally does get to court.

On the other hand, if you really can't stop yourself from begging her back every time you see her then it might be better for everyone for you to walk away for a while and work on yourself. I'd recommend in particular working on why all your previous relationships failed, what red flags you ignored, and what you'd want for a healthier future relationship with someone new. I've found counselling really helpful for that kind of thing.

Thank you lot to consider. I think I missed the idea of us. But baby mainly, said mother is extremely toxic, and I question myself why I wanted to reconcile. Maybe to be there for baby. I dont want my ex back, I know that. Thanks for the constructive reply. I dont want want to step back, but dealing with this vile evil woman is crippling my mental health.

Moier, I've no idea what about my post is scam. I'm a loving father and simply asking advice.

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Wishimaywishimight · 24/04/2024 10:22

Sounds like she just wanted your sperm and you played along - what on earth possessed you to have a child with someone you considered to be "self obsessed, selfish and pure toxic"? It was such a terrible decision and such a toxic relationship I find it hard to have a lot of sympathy.

Do you have multiple children? You mention children and previous girlfriends.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 24/04/2024 10:28

I guess you are busy most weekends anyway seeing all your other children...

2 hours is plenty for a 3 ? month old baby, you didn't say if Mum is breast feeding...

EvoDad · 24/04/2024 11:03

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 24/04/2024 10:28

I guess you are busy most weekends anyway seeing all your other children...

2 hours is plenty for a 3 ? month old baby, you didn't say if Mum is breast feeding...

I see my children and have raised them well. Incl a disabled child. Lot of judging here I feel but I am a good Dad, no other persons been toxic. I've been there for my kids so how many and time I invest is irrelevant. My kids and me are in loving parental bonds

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Theunamedcat · 24/04/2024 11:07

You have raised all your children? Alone? Yet you move to another area away from yours where I assume your other children live?

Time spent with children is always relevant to them

TealSapphire · 24/04/2024 11:19

IF this is genuine:

Focus on establishing a relationship with the baby. Short regular contact is recommended for infants. Let go of this revenge campaign.

Get another job asap. How on earth are you financially supporting all these children?

Have a vasectomy!!

EvoDad · 24/04/2024 11:23

Theunamedcat · 24/04/2024 11:07

You have raised all your children? Alone? Yet you move to another area away from yours where I assume your other children live?

Time spent with children is always relevant to them

Yes and I invest time and support to all. Though irrelevant to the OP. My children are in there 20s

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Greenfinch7 · 24/04/2024 12:58

Except the 8 year old.
Vasectomy seems like a good idea, and an education also might be useful

HowardTJMoon · 25/04/2024 15:44

Ooh, good spot about the "one of my other children an 8 year old," vs "My children are in there 20s". Seems OP can't even remember what kids he's invented sired.

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