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Daughters water contaminated at school

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ZebraD · 18/04/2024 12:02

Just that - daughter went out to play at school break time. Came back in and thankfully noticed her bottle had bubbles in it so didn’t actually drink it. However it turns out that someone has put hand sanitizer in the water. (She opened the bottle and could smell it I think)
school didn’t ring me until an hour after school ends (it happened morning break). Daughter was at her dad’s last night so I knew nothing of it until they rang.
they don’t know who did it. The only thing the teacher explained at is that it is dangerous to do things like that - he said they spent 20 minutes talking about the dangers and then carried on with lessons.
how would you feel?

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shannnxo · 18/04/2024 12:53

Depends how old the children are. If they are very young they may not understand the dangers in which the teachers were right to teach them.

ElaineMBenes · 18/04/2024 12:53

Keep her kid safe from drinking a spiked drink?

You're talking like it was an intentional act by the school!

They didn't ignore it and they dealt with the situation. What else could they do?

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/04/2024 12:54

ZebraD · 18/04/2024 12:14

They are 10/11
its strange that this kind of behaviour is deemed almost acceptable … I must be wrong for feeling upset. Hope it doesn’t happen to any of you.

Its obviously not acceptable. I don't know what else could be done and wondered if you had any ideas. They seem to have taken it seriously and I expect they will be more vigilant but the teacher won't be able to give up their break to watch the water bottles. She could lock your daughter's bottle in the cupboard at break I suppose.

If the child/children who dud this just thought it would be funny hopefully they will now know that it isn't.

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kaben · 18/04/2024 12:56

This is how bullies get away with it!
They face zero consequences for their behaviour.

When my ds was bullied, consistently and really maliciously, the parents of the bully said simply that: "none of that happened".

It's clear why our society is filled with criminals, cheeky fuckers and turds. You can do what you want with no consequences. Don't whinge when you're the victim of these people, then, if you don't think it needs dealing with whilst the kid is still quite little.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/04/2024 12:59

kaben · 18/04/2024 12:56

This is how bullies get away with it!
They face zero consequences for their behaviour.

When my ds was bullied, consistently and really maliciously, the parents of the bully said simply that: "none of that happened".

It's clear why our society is filled with criminals, cheeky fuckers and turds. You can do what you want with no consequences. Don't whinge when you're the victim of these people, then, if you don't think it needs dealing with whilst the kid is still quite little.

Nobody knows who did it though. Who do you want the school to punish?

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 13:00

kaben · 18/04/2024 12:56

This is how bullies get away with it!
They face zero consequences for their behaviour.

When my ds was bullied, consistently and really maliciously, the parents of the bully said simply that: "none of that happened".

It's clear why our society is filled with criminals, cheeky fuckers and turds. You can do what you want with no consequences. Don't whinge when you're the victim of these people, then, if you don't think it needs dealing with whilst the kid is still quite little.

Who do you think the school should punish?

In my day, it would have been the whole class, until someone owned up or "told", but surely that's not right either?

mrssunshinexxx · 18/04/2024 13:01

@ZebraD you aren't wrong for feeling upset I'd be feeling many emotions! Little shit who did it

ElaineMBenes · 18/04/2024 13:07

kaben · 18/04/2024 12:56

This is how bullies get away with it!
They face zero consequences for their behaviour.

When my ds was bullied, consistently and really maliciously, the parents of the bully said simply that: "none of that happened".

It's clear why our society is filled with criminals, cheeky fuckers and turds. You can do what you want with no consequences. Don't whinge when you're the victim of these people, then, if you don't think it needs dealing with whilst the kid is still quite little.

There is a LOT of projection going on here.

Who should the school punish? They don't know who did it.......

If they knew and didn't do anything then that would be a completely different story.

ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 18/04/2024 13:08

The water at dds school was known as the spit bucket. No one touched it as sometimes kids spat in it

viques · 18/04/2024 13:12

kaben · 18/04/2024 12:35

JFC it's no wonder people grow up thinking they can get away with all sorts. Yeah just stick something non potable into someone's drink, get a little class chat and move on Shock

This is absolutely appalling. I can't believe the responses.

There are many actions the school could take in addition to what they have done. eg a message to all the class parents letting them know that some nasty little bully has contaminated a child's water with hand sanitiser and for each parent to speak to their child? To review any CCTV of corridors and see who might have gone in alone?

You stupid responders. What will you say when this bully gets a bit older and it's drain cleaner going into someone's drink, not hand sanitiser?

I presume none of you will mind a bit of spiking of your kids' drinks when they are old enough to go clubbing either.

Back in the old days, the entire class would have been in detention.
And in the even older days, nobody would have been allowed to leave until the culprit had been identified.

And even further back they would have randomly chosen a child to be publicly beaten to death both to encourage the culprit to own up and to placate the wrathful god of drinking water bottles

PeaceOnThePorch · 18/04/2024 13:14

We had a similar thing, only it was food being messed with in packed lunches. The school ended up having to lock the lunches away. Everyone knew who it was because the child had been overheard telling others it was him and a couple of kids had seen him, but he didn’t get punished as the child denied it when asked by staff and his mum insisted he hadn’t done it. The child was and has remained a troublemaker/bully.

I would want the water bottles locked away when the teacher wasn’t there.

crumblingschools · 18/04/2024 14:03

@PeaceOnThePorch children (and parents) want unlimited access to their water bottles (just need to see threads on here if children can’t access their water bottle at all times)

PeaceOnThePorch · 18/04/2024 14:08

crumblingschools · 18/04/2024 14:03

@PeaceOnThePorch children (and parents) want unlimited access to their water bottles (just need to see threads on here if children can’t access their water bottle at all times)

In normal circumstances, yes, but if there is someone making the water dangerous to drink, that must come first. If the children have a drink before break time and then after, they’ll be fine. The alternative is that children have the option of taking their water bottles out with them at break time, some used to do that when mine were at primary.

ZebraD · 18/04/2024 14:37

It was also done to another child.
some of the comments have been dismissive let’s say which in my opinion sends the message that is it acceptable- hence my comment.
I asked how others would feel - that was the question not how the school handled it
I don’t know how I expect the school to deal with it but a pleasant chat was not really on my list. Asking my daughter what she wanted him (the teacher) to say was not really on my list.
it wasn’t washing up liquid either. It was def hand sanitizer, and it isn’t just alcohol in them if you look into it you will see it is dangerous to ingest. We are lucky she noticed the bubbles. And to the person that well she didn’t drink it so it’s ok. It isn’t ok! Alright!!

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LakeTiticaca · 18/04/2024 14:37

Unless there was CCTV or the teacher had a finger print kit, there is little else they could have done apart from give the class a talk about how dangerous this could be. Which the teacher did.

crumblingschools · 18/04/2024 14:39

Did your DD say it was a pleasant chat? Did they phone dad?

BreatheAndFocus · 18/04/2024 14:45

Worrying, OP. Your best hope is that some silly, thoughtless child did it as a ‘joke’ just to make it taste funny, without realising it could be dangerous.

I hope the class talk has the desired effect. Even if the school had a suspect, it would be hard to prove.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 18/04/2024 14:48

ZebraD · 18/04/2024 12:14

They are 10/11
its strange that this kind of behaviour is deemed almost acceptable … I must be wrong for feeling upset. Hope it doesn’t happen to any of you.

A masterclass in MN Pass agg when first replies don't go the way you want Grin

TheCoolOliveBalonz · 18/04/2024 14:54

Should the teacher have expelled one child at random just to send a message to the rest? Really struggling to imagine what the OP would have found an appropriate response.

Isitautumnyet23 · 18/04/2024 14:54

Its not acceptable in anyway but very difficult to find out who it could be. I think the most important thing is the school have addressed it straight away with the class and for the moment, i’d get your daughter to keep her water bottle with her as much as possible. I think the school could also email the parents about the incident in the class and ask them to speak to their children about it.

ZebraD · 18/04/2024 14:58

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 18/04/2024 14:48

A masterclass in MN Pass agg when first replies don't go the way you want Grin

No…it’s shock at the world we live in today! I am clearly out of touch…

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NuffSaidSam · 18/04/2024 14:59

kaben · 18/04/2024 12:35

JFC it's no wonder people grow up thinking they can get away with all sorts. Yeah just stick something non potable into someone's drink, get a little class chat and move on Shock

This is absolutely appalling. I can't believe the responses.

There are many actions the school could take in addition to what they have done. eg a message to all the class parents letting them know that some nasty little bully has contaminated a child's water with hand sanitiser and for each parent to speak to their child? To review any CCTV of corridors and see who might have gone in alone?

You stupid responders. What will you say when this bully gets a bit older and it's drain cleaner going into someone's drink, not hand sanitiser?

I presume none of you will mind a bit of spiking of your kids' drinks when they are old enough to go clubbing either.

Back in the old days, the entire class would have been in detention.
And in the even older days, nobody would have been allowed to leave until the culprit had been identified.

Ahh the good old days! Those methods were so effective. That's why there's no crime now. Everyone learnt to behave.

HoppingPavlova · 18/04/2024 15:00

@viquesAnd even further back they would have randomly chosen a child to be publicly beaten to death both to encourage the culprit to own up and to placate the wrathful god of drinking water bottles

I don’t know why you are so sneering about this strategy. A school that two of my kids went to (private) used this and it was known as a school policy when you entered into the contract for them to attend. Still used now as I have a friend with kids going through. It’s the best thing ever and really knocked all of this shit on the head quickly. Let’s say culprits tended to fess up quite quickly when it effected a whole class (or worse case whole year group or wider school cohort if necessary). Longest stretch endured was over a week until the culprit cracked as it’s made plain it WILL continue indefinitely. Let’s just say they didn’t put an another foot out of line for the rest of their schooling as peer modification of behaviour is really effective. I believe it’s based on military behaviour modification strategies, which are used as they need to be effective.

Nothing like being publicly beaten to death, what hysterical nonsense.

WhoTurnedTheLightsOff · 18/04/2024 15:06

The obsession with water bottles these days does my head in. Not needed. Total overkill. They disrupt lessons when kids slurp from them, parents lose the plot when they get lost, kids use them for water fights (and occasionally as weapons in actual fights), they leak in school bags and destroy school books. Total fucking PITA. Generation upon generation has survived whole days at school with drinks served in cups at break, lunch and afternoon before water bottle were ever a thing.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/04/2024 15:08

WhoTurnedTheLightsOff · 18/04/2024 15:06

The obsession with water bottles these days does my head in. Not needed. Total overkill. They disrupt lessons when kids slurp from them, parents lose the plot when they get lost, kids use them for water fights (and occasionally as weapons in actual fights), they leak in school bags and destroy school books. Total fucking PITA. Generation upon generation has survived whole days at school with drinks served in cups at break, lunch and afternoon before water bottle were ever a thing.

Agreed. Not to mention parents measuring how much or how little water their child has drunk and posting about it on MN.

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