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Child contact, how to word this message?

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PineappleAreApples · 09/04/2024 15:38

Since we split my ex has never had our children overnight or at his house. He will see them by coming down here and "taking them out for the day" for several reasons this has not worked mainly as he is unable to stick to it (we don't live near each other and it's a long way to travel to "take them out for the day" which really means 2/3 hours max as it's never been the whole day)

Well he never ever sticks to it and usually promises to come down on certain days then doesn't show up with no warning or cancels the night before. I suspect he finds it too expensive to take the children out regularly he hasn't said this but I do suspect that's one of the reason as the only place he takes them other than the park is the cinema which works out pricey and not something he could afford once a week so it was at a point where he would see them every month or longer. I know he doesn't want to hang out on the street with them for hours on end and I suspect also that he struggles with taking them places hence preferring the cinema as the times he's come down to take them to the park it's lasted around 45 minutes before he brings them back or he often asks me if I want to come with them. Anyway without fail contact always dwindles and he stops coming to see them or making any effort and he hasn't seen them since last year now. I know his preference would be to have them in my house but I am no longer allowing that (use to years ago) he hasn't seen them since last year and has been back in contact. I would like to tell him that in order for him to have a relationship with the children he needs to have a place he can take them to and possible have them overnight, he cannot and has not been able to build a relationship with them by taking them out for 2/3 hours every couple of months and he can't stick to it. How would you word this message that he needs to be able to take them and that days out haven't worked for the last few years so it needs to change? I'm fed up of him promising to come down and take the kids places then not showing up taking them out for the day is not a long term plan and clearly hasn't worked so far.

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BoohooWoohoo · 09/04/2024 15:57

I would want him to commit to something - even if it’s 2/3 hours every 3 months. Does he see them around their birthdays ? Christmas ?

I would prefer dad not seeing them at all to seeing them randomly as it keeps the kids in a state of hope and each let down is a kick to their self esteem. My kids liked knowing when they were seeing dad next and as they got older this was even more important as plans with friends are crucial and they would rather not be forced to change plans to accommodate a dad who saw them randomly.

It can be very expensive to keep kids busy but I’m not suggesting that you act like a friend and offer him links to cheaper offers etc- he’s an adult man with the internet so can find that info himself.

PermanentIyExhaustedPigeon · 09/04/2024 15:59

I wouldn't bother.

You've been complaining about this man on MN for at least 2 years. He isn't going to change.

I'd put your energy into finding a babysitter and getting some time for yourself that way.

PineappleAreApples · 09/04/2024 15:59

No he doesn't see them at birthdays or Xmas we didn't hear from him at Xmas at all not even a text and birthday well he said he was coming and didn't show up as he had no money apparently (but I had paid for his ticket)

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PineappleAreApples · 09/04/2024 16:00

PermanentIyExhaustedPigeon · 09/04/2024 15:59

I wouldn't bother.

You've been complaining about this man on MN for at least 2 years. He isn't going to change.

I'd put your energy into finding a babysitter and getting some time for yourself that way.

Thanks but it's not about having time to myself it's about my children having a relationship with their father...

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BoohooWoohoo · 09/04/2024 16:04

Your ex isn’t bothered about having a relationship with your kids and nobody is going to be able to force a relationship. It’s better to let it go now than force them to see a dad who is going through yeh motions. Once the kids work it out it’s going to be crappy for their self esteem.

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 09/04/2024 16:08

Your dc will be picking up his Don't Give A Fuck attitude..stop asking.
Or have him pick them up and go out. Come back 6 hours later with your phone off. . . Tell him it is up to him to amuse them for 6 hours as you manage to for <insert the rest of the time he hasn't seen them here >

PermanentIyExhaustedPigeon · 09/04/2024 16:23

PineappleAreApples · 09/04/2024 16:00

Thanks but it's not about having time to myself it's about my children having a relationship with their father...

Ok, but my point still stands.

He. Isn't. Going. To. Change.

He won't ever be the father they deserve. You can't force him.

So put your energy into helping your DC come to terms with the reality.

PineappleAreApples · 09/04/2024 19:32

Well I still think it's worth a try, they are older now so he may find it easier having them overnight and I would like to at least suggest this since he is asking to have a relationship with them

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