5mo waking up tired in the morning

[Emr147]

Just looking for some advice. Our 5Mo has never been a great sleeper. During the 4m regression he was waking every 45mins and we were waking him when we were coming to bed. We moved him into his own room and it got better with some Ferber sleep training (don’t come for me - it worked within 1 night for our little one) as we’re losing our sanity being up every 45mins.
we managed to wean him off 1 night feed as he was having this out of habit. So he now goes to bed anytime between 6.30-7pm- his last wake window is usually 1hr30 as he can’t seem to last longer than this.
bedtime 6/7pm
night feed - he wakes between 2200-2330
wake up - 6/6.30am
first nap- 7/7.30am
Wake windows of up to 2hrs but last one being shorter due to baby cues.
he is waking every 2hrs in the night at the moment
when he wakes for the morning he wants a nap within 45 mins. I usually stretch him to an hr but if I stretch any longer I’m met with screams.
does anyone have any tips for eliminating every 2hr wake up (he even wakes up at 9pm after being put down at 7) and any tips on him waking up still tired

Have you tried adding back in the night feed that you stopped? He could just be hungry.

Having said that waking every 2 hours at 5 months, especially if he's in his own room, is pretty normal. Babies are programmed to make sure their carers are around at night.

My 5 month old is doing this exact routine at night it’s awful! So tired! I think it’s normal my first did it and a friend reported the same. Are you bottle feeding? Im breastfeeding just interested for myself weighing up whether formula would help. Sorry zero help, but I feel your pain it’s hard.

Have you tried giving him a bottle as soon as he wakes at 6/6.30 and just trying to put him straight back down? DD did this for a while although was waking around 5.30 and I discovered it wasn't actually her waking for the day she was just hungry and would take a bottle at 5.30 then go back off until around 8.
It's so tricky to know what's best at that age it's just a lot of trial and error.

Could you provide a run down of a typical day, when does he sleep and when does he feed?

@Laura0589 have a read of Will giving formula or solids at night help my baby to sleep better?

We found the No Cry Sleep Solution did help

@CountSeb

feed milk- 6.30/7am
nap
breakfast (porridge or rice) 8.30/9.30am
Feed milk-11am
feed milk-1pm
feed milk- 4pm
feed milk - 6.30pm
night feed milk- 2230/2300pm

I know he does absolutely great for his age but I’m just trying to eliminate him waking so tired and needing to go back down for a nap so quick. He is a very alert baby for his age tho so it’s potentially just that he is genuinely tired quick in the morning

I think going to sleep so soon again in the morning is normal - try to see it as an extension of his night sleep. He's hungry but tired, it's OK for him to go back to sleep.

On waking up at night, how does he get back to sleep? Is he just grumbling in between sleep cycles and self soothing back to sleep or does he need you to go in and pat/rock him? Has he built a sleep association, what do you do to get him to sleep in the daytime?

He is very young and I think it's normal for babies to need some attention at night time. I couldn't leave mine to cry so I ended up knackered from lack of sleep, but it did get better when they learnt to self soothe. Mine used small non-fluffy teddy bears as comfort objects which really helped, but not sure if that's advisable for such a young baby?