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I think there might be something wrong with my child.

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Brunette1901 · 01/03/2024 07:40

DD is 3, will be 4 in June, and she's honestly mental. I keep thinking to myself "oh she's just spoilt, I've spoilt her" but I honestly don't think that is the case anymore. Nursery are struggling with her. They tell me every time she goes in that they've had a bad day and it's not surprising because she's is honestly feral.

She never sits still, when she does she goes off in a trance or is hyper focused on her iPad/TV. She goes what I can only describe as "loopy" ? Like she's been pumped full of drugs and is running around the house going mental. Nothing can stop her. She'll do 1 thing, by the time you've even registered what she's just done she's done another 3 things. For example, she'll throw a bunch of toys at you and by the time you opened your mouth to say "What was that for?" she's grabbed a mop running around the house swinging it about like no man's business, dropped the mop and is then jumping on the dining room table shouting every single word she can think of on the top of her lung. And it's like that, non stop until bed time and bed time is a real power struggle.

When she was a baby, literally newborn to 6 months old, if you held her she would scream and scream and scream until you put her down again. She didn't want to be held. Then she turned 6 months old and could start exploring food - nope. That girl HATES food. If she got food on her hands she would freak out. You could see the panic in that little tiny human's eyes if she had bread crumbs on her fingers or the like. Then when she turned 1, she made herself sick a million times a day. She's a covid baby (literally was born a couple of months after the first ever lockdown) so seeing a health visitor was impossible. I got a video call from them once (When they remembered she existed 1.5 years later) and all they wanted me to do was walk around my house and show them said house. Not really listen to my concerns. So I put it down as a baby thing that she would grow out of.

While she grew out of the touching food issue, she never grew out of her pickiness. She will only eat "safe" foods, and there's maybe 10 or so things on that list. She also grew out of being sick - thank god! But sleep... she's never been a good sleeper. I don't really remember her being 2 because I was so sleep deprived. I think I remember it being the longest time of my life, she felt like she was 2 forever, but I don't really remember it. Now she's 3, she will stay in her bedroom but it'll take her hours to get to sleep and then she will usually wake up in the middle of the night and laugh like a crazy person for hours and hours until she's so exhausted she passes out and then I can't wake her up for love nor money.

She's a lovely girl. I used to get told from nursery (so goes 3 days a week) that she's been so attentive, so helpful, she's cleaned up, done what they ask, kissed and hugged all the children that has fallen over.... but since Christmas, she's gone WILD. They constantly tell me she's not listening, ever. She never wants to join in with story time or circle time. They had to take her shoes off of her the other day because she wanted to kick furniture simply because it was funny and no amount of reasoning or time out would make her stop.

I really just don't know what to do with her. It's like she's getting worse. She goes to bed at 7, but stays awake in her room till midnight. She's playing with her poo all the time. It's a whole thing.

When we go outside, she does listen to me, she's finally learnt not to run away and stay close, but she will just do her own thing. If you're not watching her suddenly she's climbing fences and talking to strangers. She hates the pram, but again I blame Covid for that. We never went out until she was about 1.5/2 except for the occasional walk (I have OCD so it was a hard time for me) and by the time everything started opening up again, well, she'd look at that pram, look at me, and just think I was crazy. It was never going to happen. She also developed a fear of shops and restaurants for the longest time. Would have the biggest panic attack at the door of a shop but she's thankfully started to outgrow that.

I think she's spoilt maybe? I don't know. I find myself either shouting or bribing, and it's constant. I try to limit screen time, not that she would watch it any way, but when I desperately need her to be quiet (she has a younger brother so I need my break and need a chance to spend time with him too) I will give it to her. No more than an hour a day I would say in total. But because she doesn't eat, and we've been to a paediatrician before who says they're not concerned, I just give in to her now. I offer her the nutritional breakfast, which she doesn't eat, and then a little while later she comes looking for the crackers or the chocolates or the fruit roll ups that she likes. It's really frustrating and if I don't give her the food she will start screaming, shouting, having massive tantrums etc. She'll walk away and say "ah-hah!" when she's thought of something really naughty to do like hit her brother or break something etc.

She's also always bored. That's her excuse for everything. "Why did you draw on the walls?" "I was bored. I was bored. It's so boring down here." And you're like.... we were literally just playing with the magnetic tiles? I turned my back for a second to deal with your brother and suddenly there's pen marks all over the walls? It's that sort of thing.

I think my biggest problem is this wild behaviour. I can't cope with it. Every single day it's getting worse and worse and worse. I'm trying to be consistent with the way I tell her off but it's not getting through to her. She's literally getting uncontrollable that I might need to change tactics, ignoring her maybe? I don't know. I've never been a parent before and don't know any one who is.

She's got the HV coming next week. It's been a month since I've been waiting for this appointment. I know she can't give me an overnight fix but boy, I'm so looking forward to it. I just want someone to tell me that this is typical toddler behaviour or perhaps something is amiss and give me guidance on how to deal with it because I don't think I can cope for much longer.

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WaitingForMojo · 01/03/2024 08:45

Are there any support groups locally? You don’t need a diagnosis to attend those.

Thisbastardcomputer · 01/03/2024 08:58

She sounds like my nephew who is now in his twenties. From the day he was born he was a nightmare, no one could hold him except his mummy.

My sister and brother in law had a terrible time with him growing up, he once threw a fit in the doctors and got referred to an expert. Don't know many details but it was said, his personality was the type he'd got to feel in charge and he make a good adult but not a good child.

As a teen he played many sports and excelled at them, the parents were knackered driving him to all these things.

Their older boy, who was well behaved and very clever was overlooked, due to him needing constant attention. Older boy was badly bullied in his teens and developed mental health problems, quite serious and long lasting effects.

The badly behaved one has grown into a responsible adult and has a really good job, so much so, he doesn't get family allowance he earns so much and he's only late twenties.

What I'm trying to point out is, don't neglect a well behaved child over a naughty one.

determinedtomakethiswork · 01/03/2024 09:22

I think it's pretty clear that she doesn't have a naughty child but a child who has some sort of neurodiversity.

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Skibbidino · 01/03/2024 09:31

Sounds like my DS who has ADHD, Autism and SPD.

YesIdosabroso · 01/03/2024 09:43

Definitely sounds like she is neurodiverse. But I also think she sounds very understimulated and is looking for stimulation, desperately. Not leaving the house except for walks for 2 years and now a once a week park trip is very little activity. Definitely try to keep her physically busy as much as you can. Getting angry won't help. I think you are going to have to spend your days focused on keeping her busy.

Brunette1901 · 01/03/2024 10:22

Sorry for late reply was doing the school run.

Her brother just turned 2. So she's used to having him around. I make sure not to waste a single moment with him when she goes to nursery and make an extra effort to include him and give him attention, but I have to do it in a subtle sort of way or else she comes running over and is very jealous. My DD is not a very good sharer (will share toys not people) no matter how many times I explain things to her or tell her no.

We have a large play room type area, it's got a large trampoline and large indoor climbing frame in there. She uses it daily and is always jumping in the trampoline pretty much most of the day, so I say she gets a lot of active time. We have a morning routine and an evening routine but not really much of a routine in the day time, I spend a mixture playing with them or doing chores, but we have so many visitors (lot of family live quite close) or we go out alot that it's hard to have a routine in the day time I think.

I've tried contacting my GP this morning but everything is online now and you're not allowed to fill out forms on behalf of other people without a permission letter or something ridiculous so I've called her HV to see if they can bring forward the appointment.

Literally everything in the house gets broken or the walls get drawn on and all I get is "I was bored, it's so boring" She's broken two TV's.

ADHD does run in my family. My brother and uncle both have Aspergers, my sister has autism (late diagnosis) and a couple of my cousins are ADHD so maybe she has that? I just want her to be happy. I don't want to keep having to tell her off or run around my whole house after her 24/7. My body was aching by the time she was in bed last night from all the running around I had to do. We live in a town house (so 3 stories) which doesn't help! If I put up stair gates or barricades she just finds a way to climb over them that it's both pointless and dangerous to keep trying.

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Notsureeee · 01/03/2024 10:49

MrsElsa · 01/03/2024 08:05

  1. Pack in the screen time completely. 100% no screens all day every day
  2. Get her outside to the play parks to run around and climb, play games with other children. If it's raining, soft play or make a bed/sofa fort. Every day!
  3. No boring activities (long walks, cafes etc).

Give it 2 weeks you'll have a new child

If adhd this would make a HUGE difference. And also cut out sweeties / chocolate if she gets them.

But also sleep!! Make sure she gets enough sleep. That’s key.

Notsureeee · 01/03/2024 10:53

Do you have a forest school nursery near you? Maybe something super outdoorsy would suit her.

pickledandpuzzled · 01/03/2024 11:03

Add to your play equipment.

Things for hanging upside down and swings. A swing seat? A stretchy hanging cocoon seat. We had one of those garden chairs that hang, with different seats to attach.

Sensory stuff. If she’s sensory seeking she may benefit from chew toys, a squeeze tube, a wobble cushion. Look on the educational sensory special needs sections of school supplies, then find dimilar on Amazon!

Oh and a blackout tent she can go in with a torch, or a lava lamp or similar.

Headphones- she can have them on to listen to stories or calming sound tracks or white noise.

Singleandproud · 01/03/2024 11:11

There is nothing wrong with her, different perhaps but not wrong.

As many others have mentioned it's worth looking into ASD/ADHD or possibly both. They are often genetic and as you mention having OCD it would be likely that you also have one or other of them it just may not be diagnosed.

What you do going forward (once you've talked to relevant professionals) is lean into it, don't try to stop her but redirect her into using her energy in an appropriate place and a appropriate way.

You have a child with a lot of energy, you need to embrace that in the toys she has, child/damage proofing your house and giving her the space she needs.

Indoor and outdoor trampolines, Climbing frames and crash mats, good all weather gear for all of you. Dedicated spaces to be active indoors where she can be redirected to, swings, silks, spinning chairs, indoor snowballs or rolled up socks for throwing, exercise ball for sitting on.

FlamingoYellow · 01/03/2024 11:13

I have two children with SEN and the eldest was like this at that age.

  • take her out every day for a run around. We went out in all weathers. Nursery needs to be letting her out for a run around morning and afternoon too. The climbing frame you've got sounds great, but it probably won't be enough to burn off all the excess energy.
  • keep a diary of how much sleep she actually gets at night. When she goes to sleep, when she wakes up and how many times a night she wakes up. Keep the sleep diary to show to your HV or GP. My ds was a crap sleeper at this age and white noise (although I had to try a LOT of different types of white noise before I found something that worked) and a later bedtime helped. Don't make a big thing about her not sleeping or go on about how important sleep is - I did this and it just created anxiety about sleep and made everything a thousand times worse. You may get melatonin prescribed if it's really bad.
  • Read up as much as you can about adhd and asd in kids. This was the best thing I did because once I was better informed my dcs behaviour improved hugely.
Skinhorse · 01/03/2024 11:15

Yeah, forget about spoilt. Kids are who they are, the spoilt thing is banded about by people with no understanding of human behaviour (often used as a stick to beat mother's with but that's another thread!)

I'd concur with other users that it points to neurodiversity in some form. Seek advice from your HV but don't necessarily expect them to be any help, the NHS is very hit and miss with this - more often miss IME so you may need to find a specialist yourself. There is expert help out there, for ADHD it can be transformative, for ASD, just knowing, being able to parent appropriately and advocate for your child can make a world of difference.

Incidentally, when a child goes through the diagnostic process, often one or both parents begin to recognise traits in themselves too. It can be a real eye opener, not necessarily in a negative way. All the best.

GG1986 · 01/03/2024 13:28

She sounds like my now 8 year old, she was diagnosed with adhd just before her 7th birthday and we are waiting for an autism assessment. We picked up on it when she was around 2 and when she started nursery they also picked up on it and did an assessment. Eventually once in year 1 she got referred to a paediatrician. Ask nursery if they think it could be something like that and needs further investigation? If you haven't already, then I recommend a swing or trampoline at home. I wouldn't say to get rid of screen time, if it's something that calms her, just have time restrictions or use when she becomes overly hyper. Look into magnesium gummies for night time calming, they may or may not work. Have you recognised the things she hyperfocuses on? My daughter loves art so we have crafts and lots of pens and paper in the house and sometimes she will sit and draw for an hour or two.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 13:35

MrsElsa · 01/03/2024 08:05

  1. Pack in the screen time completely. 100% no screens all day every day
  2. Get her outside to the play parks to run around and climb, play games with other children. If it's raining, soft play or make a bed/sofa fort. Every day!
  3. No boring activities (long walks, cafes etc).

Give it 2 weeks you'll have a new child

Wow.

I. Can’t. Even…

Startyabastard · 01/03/2024 13:44

Could she be 'demand avoidant'?
It's a fairly new diagnosis but it's definitely a real thing.
Some people will say that is a result of spoiling your child and allowing her to have her own way, but you sounds incredibly conscious and open to criticism.
I would say there's a definite possibility that she is near diverse with the genetics you have talked about.
Don't let people criticise you too much, I'm sure you are doing your absolute best xxxx
I hope it gets better

ProfessorPeppy · 01/03/2024 13:48

OP, you have OCD. This most likely means you are neurodivergent (ASD/ADHD). Your DD is therefore likely also to be ND.

You need a referral so she can be assessed (GP or privately refer yourselves).

Wildhorses2244 · 01/03/2024 13:49

my son has an adhd diagnosis, some autism traits, and some of this behaviour sounds very familiar.

Things which have helped us are:

  • lots of baths. They seem to reduce his anxiety and stop the escalation of behaviour
  • A multivitamin, omega 3 supplement and magnesium supplements every day.
  • Daily exercise
  • Reducing screen time and, as much as possible ensuring that screen time he does have is active (Danny go, cosmic yoga, dance routines etc).
  • At school he has a soft start which is 10 minutes quiet time first thing in the morning before he starts. This has significantly improved school behaviour.

I do all these with my neurotypical child too, so nothing you couldn’t try now. He also had play therapy which he found helpful.

Appleblos · 01/03/2024 13:59

Brunette1901 · 01/03/2024 08:13

Okay I'll try the no screens thing and going to the park. We go once a week but only when I have someone else with me. DS is 2 so not much younger but it's hard trying to get her to leave the park when I have him.

I'll call the gp this morning and get something booked in.

Is there a treat you can take with you to bribe her to leave the park with? I bribe my toddler all the time and don’t feel guilty about it.
I wouldn’t actually say no screen time as it sounds intense and like the only way you can get a break. If you need it then use it for an hour.
Hope you can get some proper help soon though op, it sounds really hard.

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