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Do the morning headaches get easier?

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 07:53

So just a bit of background,
DD is potty training and we are putting her on the toilet about 2:30am. This helped with our other children but also this because I can't bare the thought of her laying wet till the morning. DH gets up for work at 2am and has said how I never do it. So last night was the start of me doing it. I didn't get back to sleep straight away but have woke up with a banging headache, like the newborn stage ones! Will these stop as I get used to getting up? I can't remember the early days 🫣

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DrJump · 13/02/2024 07:56

I haven't had that. When I wake up with a headachy ita because I didn't drink enough water the day before.

We use fabric incontinence pads for toilet training at night so they didn't get super wet. Would that be an option?

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 08:00

She does wear padded pants but sometimes she can be sodden even with them on. I don't want to put her in a pull up though as I feel we will be going backwards

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Sunshineclouds11 · 13/02/2024 08:01

They will stop as your body gets used to it.
Take some paracetamol before you go back to sleep

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 08:09

Ok I'm hoping soon we will crack it, she's just turned 4

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Iizzyb · 13/02/2024 08:29

If she's wet every night then she's not ready so I honestly think you are just creating a problem for yourself and her. Why can't she wear pull-ups/dry nites overnight to stay dry?

There are services to help with getting dc dry overnight but your dc is too young yet for those.

Familiaritybreedscontemptso · 13/02/2024 08:33

You can’t train night dryness - it depends on production of a hormone. Lifting her is actually just training her to wee in the night. Put her back in pull ups for bedtime & focus on day time dryness. The night stuff will come when she’s ready.

MintTwirl · 13/02/2024 08:35

Why are you doing this? If she’s wetting through the night then she is not ready. She she is still very young.

Marblessolveeverything · 13/02/2024 08:38

This isn't recommended anymore, it was done in the 80s . If the child isn't waking then she hasn't enough of the necessary hormone. You are teaching a behaviour not her reaching a development milestone. And from what I am reading here children are reaching it later

Notalldogs23 · 13/02/2024 08:38

Can you use pull ups at night, she's obviously not there yet.

Also, as your husband is up anyway at 2am, it's crazy for you to have to get up to. That's not fairness or sharing the load, it's needlessly making you suffer.

Clarkey86 · 13/02/2024 08:40

Others have already said it but you’re waking everyone up at 2am for absolutely no reason. Just put her in pull-ups until she’s dry at night most of the time and then use bed pads. You can’t train her, night time dryness is hormonal. I have friends whose 6 year olds still aren’t completely dry.

Clarkey86 · 13/02/2024 08:41

Also I feel a bit sad that she’s being woken at 2.30am every night, she must be really tired.

TheBeeb · 13/02/2024 08:42

Nighttime dryness is hormonal, she won't be dry til the hormone kicks in no matter how hard you try to train her!

TheLurpackYears · 13/02/2024 08:42

Daytime continence and night time continence aren't linked. It isn't advised to lift for the toilet in the night. Put her back in pull ups at night and get the sleep you need.
My first was out of nappies in the day by 2 but wasn't dry at night untill nearly 8, my second was dry at night by 2 and daytimes were hit or miss untill 6 1/2. There is very wide range for normal with being dry and clean.

Tinkeytonkoldfruit · 13/02/2024 08:45

My DD wasn't dry at night till she was almost 6, she was obviously dry in the day long before that - as others have said it's a hormonal thing and not something you can train. We just waited until she started more consistently having dry pull ups. Get some sleep and let your child sleep through too.

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 08:47

Thankyou for that, so when your older ones like 6-8year olds were still wet were they wearing pull ups then? Her twin is dry - who shares the same bed but she has a towel etc for accidents. Some nights she is dry for a week and then can be wet for a week

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Rhino94 · 13/02/2024 08:47

As pp said big hike dryness is normal and they can need nappies at night up until 7! Why are you waking her up? You cannot train nighttime dryness

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 08:50

I did not know this being totally honest,
I am genuinely curious now. I've ready so many conflicting things online - limit drinks/don't limited drinks. Wake them up/don't wake them up etc

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Marblessolveeverything · 13/02/2024 08:53

Mine were dry by two and a half, but my understanding is children are developing later. This isn't behaviour so the advice now is to facilitate and not shame. I believe they recommend review if it continues after 7,8 to identify the rare cases of them needing support. There is a website in the UK ERIC which has information.

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wowmummy · 13/02/2024 09:00

My son and her twin were about 4. However she's always developed later than them with walking etc, by a couple of months maybe if I go back to pull ups in a couple of months review it or if she's dry for a few weeks in a row?

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TomeTome · 13/02/2024 09:12

large family here. “Dry at night” is developmental and from my observation really based on core strength not anything emotional/intellectual. You can help by taking the child to the toilet last thing at night before you go to sleep but beyond that there’s little point in any intervention so night time nappy pants are convenient. A trampoline or lots of stairs/walking is probably your friend.

mitogoshi · 13/02/2024 09:21

Some are ready some are not. Lifting before you go to bed is a proven technique but if you also need to lift at 2.30am she's simply not ready

LBOCS2 · 13/02/2024 09:30

Firstly, your DH is an arse. He has to get up at 2am for work, fair enough, but why is he making you have interrupted sleep in order to 'share' the load? I bet you don't wake him up during the day to share the school run when he needs his sleep after working a night shift.

Secondly, overnight dryness is entirely hormonal and completely different from being dry during the day. I'd let her be with a pull up or nappy on, she'll get there. Mine were three and approaching four before they were dry overnight, but during the day they were fine considerably earlier. Don't worry about it, just get her to do a wee before bed to get her into the habit.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 13/02/2024 09:36

My DC is nearly 9 and is in pull ups at night, they just have not got the hormone as yet. You get DC dry at night by 3. It's not something you can train unfortunately and is why they have pull ups for 8-15 year olds.

Please don't keep waking her and just put her in pull ups. Save your sanity.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 13/02/2024 09:37

Younger DC that was meant to say.

BurbageBrook · 13/02/2024 12:47

Most people potty train in the daytime and then potty train at night ages (even years!) later. You are creating this problem really -- just put her in pull ups.

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