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Am I a bad mother if I put my toddler in non width tailored shoes?

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nct73 · 20/03/2008 10:55

Just call me Imelda! I love shoes, I love sales, I love ebay. There are so many cute shoes and boots out there for little girls - Zara, Gap, Next, Mothercare ... I only put her in new or almost new shoes which are often being sold by other Imeldas who were tempted by cute shoes then their DD grew too fast to wear or had fat/thin feet. However I look around at groups we go to and they all seem to be in proper Clarks or Startrite etc which have a width size as part of the shoe size. How essential is this & up to what age? DD is 15 months and just about walking on own after months of cruising & using a walker/zimmer thing. I feel I am being a terrible mother feeding my love of shoes while destroying DD's feet.

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nct73 · 20/03/2008 13:08

Well that's me told!

Don't worry. I haven't been squeezing her feet into ridiculous mock grown up shoes or used shoes. She had narrow feet as a baby so could never get little girly mary jane shoes to fit and has had baby fabric baseball boots or velcro mock fabric trainers (not your baby reebok or kappa - I shudder at them. nevermind what they look like, they are sooo stiff.). She also wears your standard elasticated leather slipper things a lot of the time. I have got quite used to this look. As she gets nearer to walking full time, I have been looking at proper shoes esp funky baseball boots which seem to offer good support.

Like Kewcumber, I too have little faith in fitters anyway. Reminds me of years of useless bra fitters. Went to a little independent shop a couple of weeks ago who measured her as a 3.5 G but to add extra half size for Clarks which would be a 4 but then said the shoes she was wearing were fine for a bit longer which were cruisers in a 2 from Mothercare. The lady in John Lewis seemed better yesterday who measured her as a 3 F but only had 1 pair of cruisers left in her size in a really horrid candy pink.

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Brangelina · 20/03/2008 13:09

My DD's apparently a G fitting but I've had no problem whatsoever getting her non width shoes. My DD is something like a C fitting yet she wears Naturino and the like which, surprise surpirse, have no width measurements because they're Italian and no one measures width here.

I've always thought Clarks was a bit of a con really, they make you believe you need the exact width and angulation of their shoes otherwise you dc's feet will fall off and cash in on this fear with extortionate prices.

Brangelina · 20/03/2008 13:10

DN, not DD with the C fitting.

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Alishanty · 20/03/2008 13:22

I bought ds's first shoes which were some cruisers when he first started walking in Clarks but I do find them very expensive for the time they are in them. We are on benefits atm and we can't afford to pay £28-£30 for one pair of shoes. I have bought him some off the peg shoes and he walks well in them, they are not too tight or slipping off. I didn't put him in any shoes atall until he started walking properly. I'm sure Clarks/Startrite etc are good if you can afford it but not everyone can. Also I think the boys range in Clarks leaves alot to be desired.

bonniefromboot · 20/03/2008 13:30

good point alisha,
i always thought that trainers were supposed to be bad for your feet to wear all the time yet in clarks there's loads of them to choose from???????

vicsta · 20/03/2008 13:40

You are right Alishanty, £30 is a lot for a pair of shoes (I would probably spend that on 3 prs for myself). Its easy to forget sometimes that not everyone is in the same position. I am very lucky to work in the field and get advice from medically trained experts for free. As happy as I am with my experiences with Clarks & startrite, they're for the main shoes only. They are not the only places I shop. Off the peg at Asda & Tesco have also been bought. When you consider that summer only lasts a fortnight these days you'd be mad to spend money you haven't got on the 'right' pair of sandals. We all have to do the best we can with what we've got.

Psychomum5 · 20/03/2008 13:41

I don;t think you are being a bad mother at all........altho others do disagree. but yet, if we all thought the same we would be a pretty boring lot wouldn't we.

I personally have had all my kiddies in some type of shoe from birth, either those soft frabric type when very tiny, going up to soft 'crawler' type as they get bigger and cruising....yet flame is anti any tyoe of shoe/sock/foot covering until they are walking. we differ on opinion, but ultimatley just doing the best in our minds for our own children.

I have however, made sure that when each of them HAVE started walking proper, taken them to a startright shop for a proper pair of fitted first shoes....not least as that gives me an idea of whether their feet are wider/slimmer/flattish (and therefore needing in-soles) IYGWIM.

I don;t have a huge amount of confidence in clarks TBH, as I have had a few bad experiences with their bad measuring......downright wrong measuring on DS2!!

only one thing tho........once they are walking, I don;t do secong hand shoes for them, for the reasons neicie said below.

phlossie · 20/03/2008 14:04

My ds has very deep feet, and I got him some great Umi shoes. Very cute, very hard wearing and have lasted him six months. He has Crocs for the beach, wellies for wet days but always a main pair of properly fitted shoes from our lovely local shoe shop. I have a daughter too (not in shoes yet) and there's plenty of time for them both to wear fashion shoes when they're older.

cory · 20/03/2008 14:18

My local Clarkes is excellent, they are very experienced, will go to almost any amount of trouble to find shoes that fit, which is essential for us as dd has joint disorder and extremely narrow feet. Have never found anything to fit her in ordinary shoe shop.

SlartyBartFast · 20/03/2008 14:27

school shoes i use clarks, but they do scare me when they can only find one single pair that actually fit and doesnt slib. what on earth is that all about. why do my girls have such odd shaped feet? narrow at the heel.
but other than that, sandals, trainers, anywhere but clarks.

Sidge · 20/03/2008 14:33

Babies and toddlers don't need shoes until they are walking outside.

We go to an independent shoe shop where they measure and fit them using a tape measure and experience! I would never buy my children off the shelf shoes - wellies, jellies, sandals, slippers etc yes, but not shoes.

TheFallenMadonna · 20/03/2008 14:35

Shoes are a bit like bras I think. It's not just the size, but also the shape that determine the fit.

MrsBadger · 20/03/2008 14:36

I was chatting with the manager in our local Clarks, and he was telling me how some of their branches are independent franchises (often where Clarks bought out a local independent shoe shop) and some are 'chain' stores managed from head office.

He reckons the franchises are miles better for fitting kids as they all have a genuine experienced person in charge who sees all the new staff are trained properly, not just a branch manager who is being leant on by on high to tick the boxes on new employee's sheet...

which was interesting

imaginewittynamehere · 20/03/2008 14:51

I fit DD's myself as after several bad experiences I do not really trust shop assistants.
She normally has width fitted shoes as she is an H width so off the peg shoes in the are mostly too narrow, ^but" if DD was a regular width I would use them & fit them myself - it really is very easy to do
I do regular checks on the shoes she has & second that children only need shoes once walking outside. Their bones are very soft & the more time without shoes the better. You should regularly check the fit of any shoes they have but is by no means essential to buy into the clarks rubbish.

WriggleJiggle · 20/03/2008 15:08

dd doesn't have fitted shoes. In fact she often has 2nd hand ones. I understand this makes me a bad mother, but £30 every couple of months just can't be justified. Especially not as she prefers wearing wellies all the time.

hippipotami · 20/03/2008 15:44

Bonnie and Kew, I am with you both. And the width fitting is just a red herring. I grew up in Holland, lived in Germany for part of my childhood. Never ever had feet measured for width. Just for the length, and then various styles of shoes were brought out, some which fitted well, some which didn't.
I do believe the UK is the only country where parents are being asked to pay a premium for shoes which are 'width fitted'.

I used to religiously buy the dc shoes at Clarkes or Startrite. But actually, you can buy just as good a shoe off the peg. Just make sure there is a thumb's width of wiggle room at the toe, make sure the foot is securely supported and the heel does not slip in and out of the shoe when the child walks.

Common sense, no?

shoptilidrop · 22/03/2008 08:58

Ive been buying my DD one pair of proper fitted shoes and then several pairs off ones from next or something as well. I go to an independent shoe fitter and ive brought UMI shoes which are far better quality to clarks ( and just a little bit more expensive). The interesting thing is they dont do half sizes, so they round up and check how the child walks in them, and find a really good fit. So that means the shoe lasts longer as well, last pair lasted just over 6 months.

hercules1 · 22/03/2008 09:17

I have often been disappointed with clarkes over the years but not for the reasons stated here. On about 3 occasions with each child I've had to go elsewhere as been told they dont have any shoes to fit ds or dd. I tend to go to start rite now for dd but had to travel to several places once trying to find a pair of shoes that would fit her!

slinkiemalinki · 25/03/2008 16:54

I buy ecco for my daughter - but we have them properly fitted in a place that also sells Clarks, Start Rite etc (local Russell & Bromley). I've no problem with this but wouldn't buy any shoes without a professional fitter I trusted checking them on her. But then she does have v wide feet!

deegreen · 30/03/2008 10:03

As with all things - different brands size things differently. E.g. a Marks and Spencers size 10 is different to a Next size 10 - we all have experience of knowing what suits our personally needs. I personally need a size bigger at Next!

The general rule about children's shoes is that they should support / aid walking - not create additional obstacles to overcome (like flip flops encourage a child to claw their toes to keep them on - which may cause probelms later in life). If you stick to shoes that fasten on (buckle, lace, velcro) and that if they lace up that the there is a gap between the uppers when fastened to ensure that they are functional (not just a style).

As brands vary in their sizing and you do not have the services of a shoe fitter that you trust - if you draw around your childs foot when they are standing (so that the foot is at it most extended) you can cut out a strip from the longest part as a guide. The general rule is that you should have a 1cm gap between the end of you guide and the end of the shoe for it to allow adequate growing room, as well as accommodating the natural lengthening of the foot during walking. As to the width - it is more a question of how much space your childs foot needs and this is down to genetics, and I think this is a common sense issue. This is applicable to adults buying shoes as well.

As to Clarks et al - we must remember that they are a profit making company and any technological gimmick can give the impression of expertise, and allows them to charge more for their products, theoretically because we are buying a service not just a pair pf shoes. I would suggest that the expertise of the person using the technology should be questioned. A teenager working a saturday job is not an expert in my opinion!

I also think that off the shelf products are OK - if you are being a consciensious parent and regularly checking that shoes are fitting properly. There is a lot of manufacture knowledge out there and even the cheapest of trainers (bought from a market stall) has a lot of the fancy technology that goes into a £100 pair of trainers these days. We just need to be wary of the guilt complex when it comes to children - expensive is not always better, just often a well marketed brand.

Sorry to rant on - but have a real issue with the theory that shoes cause foot problems. Genetically bad feet (family trends)create foot problems when put in shoes that do not accommodate them and when we wear shoes that create changes to the foot posture for long periods of time (high heels). As with all things common sense rules - wear the right shoes for the right job. I personally wouldn't go shopping for a whole day in a pair of high heels!

AbbeyA · 30/03/2008 10:42

I believe properly fitting shoes for DCs is an absolute essential for future foot health.The fit is far more important than the look. DCs need comfortable shoes they can run about in safely-they do not need fashion.

mumeeee · 30/03/2008 15:44

Children don't need shoes until they are walking properly and then it is important to get properly fitted shoes.

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