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Making formula and hot water

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tickcross · 01/01/2024 23:36

I didn't realise but you need to use hot water to kill the germs in the formula.

I was wondering what temp the water has to be?

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rebecca100 · 02/01/2024 07:53

You actually don't need to leave it to cool from boiling, the water just needs to be above 70c to make the formula safely.

You could make the formula as soon as the kettle is boiled, it does not kill off nutrients in the formula, the water would need to be a lot hotter for that. They say wait 30 min because of burn risk to yourself.

The instructions usually say to boil a litre of water and leave for 30 min, that's the time that amount of boiled water would take to get down to 70 so you shouldn't need to test it x

Superscientist · 02/01/2024 08:07

SoIRejoined · 02/01/2024 00:37

I'm sure the 30 minutes advice is wrong though, because as soon as you switch the kettle off the bubbles subside quickly. Bubbles begin forming in water at about 70 degrees. I don't think I can see any bubbles in my kettle three minutes after switching it off. There's no way the water could still be at 70 after 30 minutes, and then you pour it into a bottle so it's going to cool down more! Have any scientists here actually tested the instructions with a thermometer?

Did you know that pure water doesn't bubble at all when boiling?! It's only water with impurities in like tap water that produces bubbles and bubbles aren't intrinsically linked to boiling! It is super creepy to watch water boil without bubbling!

NewYearNewName2024 · 02/01/2024 12:07

If it helps, this is how we do bottles using the Nuby Rapid cool...

For a 6oz bottle:

  • 6 scoops of formula in bottle
  • in another bottle measure 4oz of fresh boiled water from the kettle, pour this into Nuby
  • pop lid on Nuby and turn upside down a few times
  • measure 2oz of water from kettle in the empty bottle
  • pour the 2oz into the formula and mix for about 10 seconds until no clumps
  • Nuby showing green, pour this into formula

Bottle ready to drink - once kettle is boiled takes about 1 minute to make.

When we're out and about we take a flask of boiled water.

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TheCraicDealer · 02/01/2024 12:17

You shouldn’t use boiling or near-boiling water to make up formula feeds as aside from the scalding risk it degrades the nutrients in the formula itself. @Caspianberg and I have been in agreement before on these threads re. the contrast with the UK instructions on formula preparation vs other countries such as the US, NZ and Germany. I appreciate there may be reasons behind the more cautious approach taken in the UK but it’s also why the perfect prep is so popular here.

OP as mentioned you can get kettles that boil to a specific sub-100 degree temp. We have this Bosch model which would work well for your needs.

Theicingonthecake · 02/01/2024 13:18

Hiya,
weve got the Tommy Tipee let’s go bottle warmer and it really helps, I boil the water let it cool for a bit then chuck the bottle on the warmer it tells me the temp and then heats it up to 37 degrees. I know you might not want to fork out extra money but it’s helped me lots (also for bottles on the go - can just put it on and bottle is perfect temp in about 5 mins) :)

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/brand/tommee-tippee/tommee-tippee-letsgo-portable-baby-bottle-warmer/p/219743?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces_across_google&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhc-sBhCEARIsAOVwHuTi1pA2vzbHPYA1bJ-JAAj14G_ULMpshHgMk-oceRHyj3lLxAahFBgaAiDeEALw_wcB

xx

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/brand/tommee-tippee/tommee-tippee-letsgo-portable-baby-bottle-warmer/p/219743?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces_across_google&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhc-sBhCEARIsAOVwHuTi1pA2vzbHPYA1bJ-JAAj14G_ULMpshHgMk-oceRHyj3lLxAahFBgaAiDeEALw_wcB

tickcross · 02/01/2024 13:42

TheCraicDealer · 02/01/2024 12:17

You shouldn’t use boiling or near-boiling water to make up formula feeds as aside from the scalding risk it degrades the nutrients in the formula itself. @Caspianberg and I have been in agreement before on these threads re. the contrast with the UK instructions on formula preparation vs other countries such as the US, NZ and Germany. I appreciate there may be reasons behind the more cautious approach taken in the UK but it’s also why the perfect prep is so popular here.

OP as mentioned you can get kettles that boil to a specific sub-100 degree temp. We have this Bosch model which would work well for your needs.

And I'm supposed to know the temp of the water how?

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tickcross · 02/01/2024 13:43

rebecca100 · 02/01/2024 07:53

You actually don't need to leave it to cool from boiling, the water just needs to be above 70c to make the formula safely.

You could make the formula as soon as the kettle is boiled, it does not kill off nutrients in the formula, the water would need to be a lot hotter for that. They say wait 30 min because of burn risk to yourself.

The instructions usually say to boil a litre of water and leave for 30 min, that's the time that amount of boiled water would take to get down to 70 so you shouldn't need to test it x

It doesn't take 30 mins to reach 70.... that's my issue. The water is much cooler

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FirstFallopians · 02/01/2024 19:39

tickcross · 02/01/2024 13:42

And I'm supposed to know the temp of the water how?

Either follow the steps as laid out in the instructions above, or buy a food safe thermometer if you want an exact reading.

People have taken time to try and help you with your query. There’s no need for multiple snottery replies.

tickcross · 02/01/2024 19:41

@FirstFallopians it's not a "snotty" response. The inspections are clearly not correct,

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tickcross · 02/01/2024 19:42

Theicingonthecake · 02/01/2024 13:18

Hiya,
weve got the Tommy Tipee let’s go bottle warmer and it really helps, I boil the water let it cool for a bit then chuck the bottle on the warmer it tells me the temp and then heats it up to 37 degrees. I know you might not want to fork out extra money but it’s helped me lots (also for bottles on the go - can just put it on and bottle is perfect temp in about 5 mins) :)

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/brand/tommee-tippee/tommee-tippee-letsgo-portable-baby-bottle-warmer/p/219743?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces_across_google&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhc-sBhCEARIsAOVwHuTi1pA2vzbHPYA1bJ-JAAj14G_ULMpshHgMk-oceRHyj3lLxAahFBgaAiDeEALw_wcB

xx

Does this only heat to 37? I'm just wondering how I would use it in the process?

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Theicingonthecake · 02/01/2024 20:06

@tickcross no I think it has three heat settings (up to 45), I just use the 37 as found my baby prefers not too hot. I boil the water leave it to cool (but still warm can tell by feeling bottle). Set the warmer to 37 or whichever one you want. Put the formula in, shake the bottle put it on the warmer and it will detect heat of milk for you, it will then heat or wait to cool to the temp you set it for and stay at that heat for you!
( I did wonder about it cooling too much and reheating but a quick google told me this wouldn’t affect the milk as it would have to cool right down and be reheated and even then would be fine as long as it was only once)- hope that all makes sense x

YouAndMeAndThem · 02/01/2024 20:44

tickcross · 02/01/2024 19:41

@FirstFallopians it's not a "snotty" response. The inspections are clearly not correct,

Just because you don't understand the instructions doesn't mean they aren't correct. Buy a thermometer and check it yourself

tickcross · 04/01/2024 02:38

@YouAndMeAndThem instructions are ambiguous

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