DD, previously dry, now has three or four accidents a day. Save me with your wisdom before I lose it..

[moodlumthehoodlum]

DD, nearly 4, has been dry for a year. In the last month or so, she has been refusing to go the loo when she's obviously needed to, and she is having about 3 or 4 changes of pants per day, as she just wets them.

I've tried cajoling her, being nice, being firm, being calm all to no avail. And its getting worse.

I've talked to her about how big girls don't wee in their pants but I'm now getting quite cross (not to her face).

I don't think she does it as much at nursery, and she's good at doing poos on the loos, but it is really trying my patience, particularly as I have to start potty training ds, and the idea of hundreds of wet patches fills me with gloom.

Tell me your wisdom and if this has happened to you oh wise m'netters.

if theres no medical reason...

she could be doing as my ds2 was, and using it to get attention (not neccessarily aware that thats what shes doing tho)

we tried giving no attention to accidents - literally changing him wordlessly and then carrying on as before. in conjunction with making space for other times to be 1-1 and have lots of cuddles and the odd trip to the shops with none of the others... that sort of thing.

he stopped doing it.

Thanks. I can't think there is a medical reason, as she was so good before (altho' DH commented that it could be a urine infection).

But, the 1-1 point is a good one. Its tricky to do with ds (who is only a year younger than her) around, but will endeavour to do that over the next few weeks and see.

Thanks

hah! yes, the ds im on about is exactly 13m younger than his 'elder' brother too... and only about 18m older than his younger, so he gets it both ends!

yes, i know tis hard with another around so close in age LOTS of good things about it too tho, eh? [am loving my gorgeous boys today]

So many good things. Someone in similar situ said that it was like always having a friend over to play! But so hard sometimes! Fortunately DH has taken over now so bathtime chaos now his problem

Well done you for being brave and just getting on and having another one. My two are so close that I think if I had another one now (which would be a three year gap between ds and baby) it would be a bit left out!

och, a 3 yr gap isnt much really. just coz you and i are used to teeny wee gaps like a year! besides, no3 wasnt exactly planned... not that we did much to prevent him so i guess he was!

anyhoo - bathtime is doen to me tonight, so off i go to get that started...

LOL

I think if I did it again then i'd realise how much easier it is when you leave a sensible gap - maybe ignorance is bliss!

enjoy bathtime

hah! i like your logic...

someone i know has a theory on this accidents starting after a little while thing- they are strengthening their bladder so instead of rushing to the loo whenever they feel the sensation they think 'i'll just finish playing with this thing/ doing this whatever i am doing' but they cant quite hang on as long as they think they can. ultimately it will probably result in less loo visits if you know what i mean. could be possibly the reason???

I have a thread going on this EXACT issue atm!

It's happened to dd 2 or 3 times. Each time it's been because of a urine infection.

It puzzled the hell out of me at the time because there were no other signs of her having an infection.

Might be worth getting it checked because at least then you can rule that out.

I like everyone's logic on this - I will get her checked for a urine infection I think. And, I can definately see that she is trying to see how long she can go - she is like a camel - stubborn and determined to cross the desert without going to the loo. (not literally obviously, very few deserts around these parts)

thanks all.

notnowbernard - will check your thread on this right now.