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Has/does anyone use a bottle prep machine?

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Meeting · 30/09/2023 18:21

I'm pregnant with my first and really stuck on this decision. I've got friends who swear by them and say they couldn't do without them but the advice online seems to be that they aren't recommended.

Has anyone had any experience with them?

I was thinking if I don't get one can I use ready made milk for night feeds? It just seems a long process to boil the kettle and wait for bottle to cool etc in the middle of the night!

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bambier · 30/09/2023 19:15

Oh and another recommendation, buy enough bottles so that you're not constantly at the sink washing them. We started off with 4, as was planning on breastfeeding, & I felt like I was always on a time constraint to get them washed & sterilised before she needed them again. I now have enough that I only have to do it once a day. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's the little things in the early days that feel big 🤣 I got some second hand (bought new teats) as we use mam bottles & they're quite expensive at like £8 a bottle, good wash/sterilise & good to go

SleepingStandingUp · 30/09/2023 19:16

Meeting · 30/09/2023 18:30

It seems that people who have bought them love them, same with my friends! Can I ask which brand you have used if you like it?

@PinkMoscatoLover I didn't know that was an option, I thought you had to discard of them within 2 hours of making so that definitely would be a help in the night without a machine

@TakeMe2Insanity that seems to be the NHS guidance but the websites say that the first shot of hot water kills the bacteria, so hard to know what do to

The HV will have heart failure if you tell her you do this. It isn't "current" advice. Not sat mg don't, just be wary of professionals opinions

PinkMoscatoLover · 30/09/2023 19:21

Meeting · 30/09/2023 18:30

It seems that people who have bought them love them, same with my friends! Can I ask which brand you have used if you like it?

@PinkMoscatoLover I didn't know that was an option, I thought you had to discard of them within 2 hours of making so that definitely would be a help in the night without a machine

@TakeMe2Insanity that seems to be the NHS guidance but the websites say that the first shot of hot water kills the bacteria, so hard to know what do to

You have to throw it away 2 hours after you’ve made it if the bottle if left at room temperature. If the baby drinks some but has some left, I think that’s allowed to sit for 1 hour before it gets thrown away.

If you make bottles and cool it straight away and place in the fridge, it’s fine for 24 hours. I’d link but I’m quite lazy😬 have a search on Google and you’ll find some guidance on it

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LifeIsHardAlways · 30/09/2023 19:24

Used a perfect prep machine, it was a game changer! It did the shot of super hot water first to kill bacteria then topped up with cooler. Made making bottles so much quicker and easier.

HippeePrincess · 30/09/2023 19:26

Wouldn’t it be just as quick and cheaper to make your own hot shot from the kettle for the powder and top up with cold? I know most don’t even serve milk warm.

Blanketpolicy · 30/09/2023 19:29

After being recommend on here I bought my niece the Nuby Rapid cool flasks set and she raves about them. So easy to use and clean and magically cools formula in just a minute or two. Really easy to clean and sterislise. Also got her the nuby UV steriliser that sterilises in just 3 mins.

The flasks are great for out and about too.

The machines do seem prone to either unknowingly not doing the job right or bacteria build up and I have heard they are not recommended by HV, midwives etc. The flasks seem simplier and more reliable.

crabette · 30/09/2023 19:36

I spoke to my health visitor about this. She said officially the NHS can't recommend them but as long as you keep them clean and change the filters when you're meant to then they're totally fine.

I couldn't have done without mine and I was also super sceptical in the beginning!

BoardTopChair · 30/09/2023 19:48

@Meeting my sister had one and loved it and honestly if I had a baby I would absolutely get one. As long as you follow the manufacturer's instructions and change the filters then it is fine. It is when people ignore this and then complain that it doesn't do what it is meant to do.

NHS guidelines make one feed at a time so fill a kettle with fresh water, boil and you can use that water for the next 30 minutes as it is above 70c which kills any bacteria in the formula. Make up the bottle but obviously you then need to cool it which feels like it takes forever when you have a hungry baby.

The prep machine calculates all of this for you and it is Tommee Tippee so a trusted brand.

CoodleMoodle · 30/09/2023 20:01

Just to point out after a PP mentioned it, the water dispensed from a TT PP is the correct amount. At least it definitely was on the old PP (I got mine in 2014).

If you do the hot shot and then the cold top up straight after, it brings the water to the correct level on the bottle. Adding the formula powder to the hot shot raises the water level so when you make up a bottle with formula it's always slightly higher than the line. I know because I noticed the same thing and was worried, and decided to test it out when first DC was a baby!

Ellie525 · 30/09/2023 20:32

bambier · 30/09/2023 19:15

Oh and another recommendation, buy enough bottles so that you're not constantly at the sink washing them. We started off with 4, as was planning on breastfeeding, & I felt like I was always on a time constraint to get them washed & sterilised before she needed them again. I now have enough that I only have to do it once a day. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's the little things in the early days that feel big 🤣 I got some second hand (bought new teats) as we use mam bottles & they're quite expensive at like £8 a bottle, good wash/sterilise & good to go

100% this!! We also only had 4 MAM bottles in the newborn stage and god I wish I had just bought more 😅 Have stocked up now thank god although once they have fewer bottles its less manic with all the washing, but feel more prepared for no2 at least!

And Milton cold water steriliser was amazing for us, so easy!

OvaHere · 30/09/2023 20:50

They didn't have these in my day but I've used DD's when looking after DGS overnight. I'd buy one, they are blooming marvellous. Her's I think was the Tommee Tippee one.

airfresh123 · 30/09/2023 20:53

I just made up 6-8 bottles in the evening and just warmed up feed in microwave!

Meeting · 30/09/2023 21:01

Thanks so much everyone I think I'm pretty much sold on the Tommy tippee perfect prep!

Also thanks for the advice on buying lots of bottles, I just told DH about that and he said let's buy 30 😂 I said I don't think people meant quite that many haha

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calorcalorcalor · 30/09/2023 21:31

Caspianberg · 30/09/2023 18:48

https://babybrezza.co.uk/product/formula-pro-advanced/

This is a popular formula making machine. It’s popular worldwide. Including uk. Just goes to a maximum 45 degrees temp. Sold in places like John Lewis also which are prime uk market. So no, the majority just make formula with something that’s convenient as they will loose their mind otherwise.

I read somewhere that these don't steralise the formula powder as it doesn't have a 'hot shot' like the tomme tippee machine

calorcalorcalor · 30/09/2023 21:35

Meeting · 30/09/2023 21:01

Thanks so much everyone I think I'm pretty much sold on the Tommy tippee perfect prep!

Also thanks for the advice on buying lots of bottles, I just told DH about that and he said let's buy 30 😂 I said I don't think people meant quite that many haha

We have 8 bottles and that only means washing up once a day - got a big set from tommee tippee with the steraliser and some other bits.

Please don't heat milk up in the microwave, that's really dangerous as the milk heats up unevenly and can burn the baby!!

OvertiredOverthinker · 30/09/2023 21:47

PinkMoscatoLover · 30/09/2023 18:24

Waste of money imo.

Boil the kettle, wait 30 mins, make up the bottles, cool them in a beaker/pot of cold water until they’re cold. Place them in the fridge and it can last 24 hours.

Once baby is up in the night, boil the kettle, put a bottle back in a beaker/pot of boiling water and the milk warms up in a few minutes.

I always made up 4 bottles in advance. It’s easier than faffing around with the prep machine and saves you on using ready made bottles for the night. Two of my friends had a prep machine and it was so much hassle for the both of them that it only last a few weeks.

Maybe buy one on Marketplace so you don’t spend a lot of money in case you don’t end up using it much!

I did it exactly this way too, although I waited for kettle to cool for more like 20-25 minutes, due to making up more than one bottle and not wanting water to have cooled down too much for last bottle. I might have been worrying unnecessarily on that point though! I ensured all the powder was in each bottle while kettle cooled then had a fifth sterilised bottle in which to pour the right amount of water from kettle and then transfer this to a bottle with the powder before adding lid and giving a quick shake. After making up all 4 bottles in this way I ensured I shook them all again more thoroughly before transferring to container of cold water, flash-cooling for about 10 minutes, then transferring to top shelf of fridge, which I cleaned regularly and kept clear of anything else.

OP, you have to chuck bottles away 2 hours after making them up and attempting to feed baby straightaway i.e if they’ve not been stored in the fridge. But if you follow @PinkMoscatoLover’s process to make up bottles, then flash-cool in cold water and transfer to fridge, they can be kept for up to 24 hours. To be on the safe side, I did make up 4 bottles in the morning and 4 bottles in the evening and ensured anything past 12 hours was chucked away. I did find I never actually needed every bottle but it was reassuring to have enough made up in the fridge.

At the very beginning, when baby was drinking little amounts and often, I did use ready made cartons (having struggled with breastfeeding for first two weeks), just while I found my feet and researched a safe way to make up bottles in advance.

I was happy that my method was safe, but I was quite OCD about sterilisation, water being right temperature, correct timings followed to a second, so it did feel a bit like a military operation! I was fortunate in that DD was quite consistent with her naps so I could make them up in the morning and dad was able to look after her if she was unsettled while I got night bottles done! When DD was coming up to a year old and had dropped to 3 bottles a day, I switched back to ready made cartons, having worked out that Child Benefit covered the cost, and also my method was getting too much while also weaning!

A prep machine would have been easier, no doubt about it, but, when we looked into it, we came across NHS studies that suggested the hot shot wasn’t enough to kill all of the bacteria that may be present in the formula powder. I couldn’t unread that once I’d seen it and I just couldn’t take the risk. I read about babies in other countries very sadly dying because of contaminated powder that hadn’t been sterilised correctly when making up the formula. Having had a miscarriage already and going through a very stressful pregnancy, I absolutely was not taking the risk. I read a lot about how to safely make up bottles in advance before I started doing it and was much happier with that method, and DD was fine 😊

Ellie525 · 30/09/2023 22:01

Meeting · 30/09/2023 21:01

Thanks so much everyone I think I'm pretty much sold on the Tommy tippee perfect prep!

Also thanks for the advice on buying lots of bottles, I just told DH about that and he said let's buy 30 😂 I said I don't think people meant quite that many haha

Tommee tippee prep is honestly a gamechanger... maybe not 30 bottles haha but definitely no less than 8 😅😅

toddlermom1 · 30/09/2023 22:09

I swear by the TP prep machine, i used it with all of my children!

TheSnailAndTheWaaaail · 30/09/2023 22:22

Used the TT perfect prep with both children, no issues at all! Just use the branded TT filters, clean and descale when necessary and I've never had a problem with it. Absolute lifesaver for night feeds!

SnapdragonToadflax · 30/09/2023 22:26

Loved our Perfect Prep, we managed three weeks without it and I have no idea why we held out. We didn't intend to formula feed so hadn't really researched anything until we were in the thick of it.

We even took it on holiday with us (UK).

I would buy new though - the problems reported come from improper cleaning or using the wrong filters, so I'd want to know I had a new one which no-one else had misused.

yaboreme · 30/09/2023 22:40

We used the tommee tippee perfect prep. We got it just for night feeds but we used it alllll the time.

We bought the pots that you can make up the correct onz. So we could bleary eyed pour them into the correct temp water during the night.

Life saver!!!

Only negative about the tommee tippee was the loud beeping at the end of the cycle. If there had been an alternative that didn't do this I'd have preferred it, especially at 2am but it worked a treat for us.

Also, another point is it you don't have to use the tommee tippee bottles. I had my heart set on breast feeding, but for us it wasn't the best start. So I expressed and add whatever i could to the formula. We tried all bottles on the market and they all fit under the machine but dr browns served us the best.

Good luck x

Emiliasmummy · 30/09/2023 22:56

I used to tt perfect prep for both my girls total life changer. I do agree that the beep is noisy, the first time we used it my eldest came down thinking the fire alarm was going off. (It's loud but only one beep my 5 year old has a flair for the dramatics). It uses a hot shot and you've got to make the rest of the bottle up in a certain time before it cools or you have to discard it. I also use Milton tabs like it so much better than electric steriliser that I used the first time.

Oopsupsideyourheadache · 30/09/2023 23:04

@yaboreme the day and night perfect prep lets you turn the beep volume down. Absolute game changer!

Caspianberg · 01/10/2023 05:40

@calorcalorcalor - no I know the breeza doesn’t do the hot shot. That’s my point. They sell millions of them world over (including the uk), and so millions are using without a hot shot. Millions of others are making formula just from bottled suitable water ( ie Evian in France) even in childcare providers. Millions more just boil water once and fill 8 bottles at once, then add formula to the cooled boiled water when needed.
And there’s been about 16 cases of old milk related sickness in babies in the last 30 years. That’s a miniscule number. And could still be from bottles made at 70+.

So again, just there’s a perfect ideal world, but there’s also a do your best scenario. Making a bottle in the western world with clean suitable bottle water or clean water that’s been boiled and used hot or cold, in a clean bottle, with decent western standards regulated formula and kept in fridge or thrown away when old is really fine.

WandaWonder · 01/10/2023 06:04

Dh made up 6 bottles of cool boiled water on an evening which lasted 24 hoirs we added formula divided into 2 x 3 divider containers at feed time and fed room temp

Tips from our health visitor, once the initial thing dh did took 2 seconds at feed time

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