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Reception table colour

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Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 19:54

DD just stared reception and has told me she's at the red table, there are 3 different colours. Does the colour of the table have anything to do with the child's ability or is it just random? She attended the nursery attached to the school and they did an assessment and report for the transfer to the school so was thinking it was maybe based on that?

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Twizbe · 05/09/2023 19:56

It will do, but the kids won’t catch on to that until much later.

There will be lots of movement between tables as abilities develop, development gaps close and friendships form.

charlotte361 · 05/09/2023 19:56

I dont know how anyone on here can answer that without knowing the class

SnapdragonToadflax · 05/09/2023 19:57

Red table in one school will mean something completely different to another school.

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Nodeepdiving · 05/09/2023 19:57

Probably, but I imagine you'd have a hard time getting any teacher to give you the info! It's deliberately done by colours/ animals/ whatever so the children don't feel labelled (labelling has very negative outcomes), so they're not likely to want to divulge this information.

doroda · 05/09/2023 19:59

They probably are ability tables yes. FWIW red was top table at DD's primary and they descended in rainbow colour order thinking about it, but I'm sure all schools do it differently!

Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 20:02

Thanks my DH thinks I'm being crazy and they are just coloured to help children know where they have to sit 🤦‍♀️

I doubt I'll ever know whether red indicates top bottom or middle in terms of ability, she's one of the youngest but her report was very good so hopefully it's not bottom, crazy to even worry about at 4!

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RogersOrganismicProcess · 05/09/2023 20:04

It will be so meaningful intervention can be targeted to children more easily. If all children on the table are working within a given range it can be helpful having them together.

It can support the children by learning with children with a similar ability. Children who are struggling won’t feel significantly behind and build their confidence through scaffolded tasks. At the other end, children who are very able can still receive appropriate challenge; and everything in between.

The groupings will be designed to get the best out of your child and keep her motivated.

PuttingDownRoots · 05/09/2023 20:07

Even if it is "bottom group", it doesn't mean anything long term. My elder DD could barely count to 10 in Reception class... and is top set for Maths at Secondary school!

Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 20:09

PuttingDownRoots · 05/09/2023 20:07

Even if it is "bottom group", it doesn't mean anything long term. My elder DD could barely count to 10 in Reception class... and is top set for Maths at Secondary school!

I think since she's my first going I'm a bit anxious and looking into everything! I know there are a few with learning needs in the class but they don't seem to be at her table though hard to get a clear answer from a 4 year old!

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ManchesterLu · 05/09/2023 20:10

Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 20:02

Thanks my DH thinks I'm being crazy and they are just coloured to help children know where they have to sit 🤦‍♀️

I doubt I'll ever know whether red indicates top bottom or middle in terms of ability, she's one of the youngest but her report was very good so hopefully it's not bottom, crazy to even worry about at 4!

It's nothing to worry about at all, but it is important. There will be some kids entering reception able to count, read and write (obviously basic levels) whereas others won't know anything at all and will need to start right from the beginning.

Ability will be used throughout school but it's not fixed, and will absolutely change many, many times.

HappiDaze · 05/09/2023 20:14

It doesn't matter if she's top, bottom or middle ability it's to help them to the best of their ability

You should be a bit ashamed that you don't want her on the bottom table that is if there even is one yet

You should just want her to do as best she can

Moonlaserbearwolf · 05/09/2023 20:16

Are you sure she was even at the table all day? That doesn’t sound right for reception - it’s more free flow than that. We had maths table, writing table, art table etc and the children go between all of them. I wouldn’t expect seating plans in early years.

Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 20:20

Moonlaserbearwolf · 05/09/2023 20:16

Are you sure she was even at the table all day? That doesn’t sound right for reception - it’s more free flow than that. We had maths table, writing table, art table etc and the children go between all of them. I wouldn’t expect seating plans in early years.

She ate her break at the table, we were just chatting about what she had eaten at break and she brought up the table she sits at for break and that she always sits at the red table beside another child I know. Ive seen the classroom and there are three different coloured tables which I believe the children will do small pieces of work at during the year but I could be totally wrong!

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doroda · 05/09/2023 20:23

HappiDaze · 05/09/2023 20:14

It doesn't matter if she's top, bottom or middle ability it's to help them to the best of their ability

You should be a bit ashamed that you don't want her on the bottom table that is if there even is one yet

You should just want her to do as best she can

OP doesn't need to feel ashamed. Nobody actively wants a lower ability child do they

Rhino94 · 05/09/2023 20:25

Doesn’t mean anything at my DC’s school, I wouldn’t think that much into it!

TheYear2000 · 05/09/2023 20:26

I really doubt it will be ability grouping in Reception! They may be grouped for phonics at that age but that would be different to table groupings, or in schools I've worked at before.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's probably just groupings that seem to get on ok for table based activities and it makes organisation easier if the children are divided into smaller groups. (Red Table- it's your turn in the kitchen area/at the colouring table)

MolkosTeenageAngst · 05/09/2023 20:27

I’m a teacher. I’ve worked in some schools where the reception classes were sat based on ability, but it’s more common in my experience for them not to be grouped by ability in reception and to actually try and get a mix of children on each table, so you have some children able to model to others. I’d want a mix of ability but also a mix of gender and things like loud/ quiet/ able to sit and regulate etc.

I find grouping by ability not always useful in reception as the children make such different rates of progress at that age depending on their starting point and previous educational experiences that otherwise you are constantly moving kids around. They don’t always do lots of adult directed table work in reception, in most settings it’s mostly learning through play and child directed learning and so they aren’t sat at the table that much and often children will be taken in small ability groups for guided reading, phonics etc that don’t correspond with which table they usually sit at. It does vary between settings though, whilst some schools won’t group by ability until KS1 some will in EYFS but it’s likely you won’t be told as assessments and progress in EYFS should be individual to the child and not about comparing against their classmates.

Cazaletto · 05/09/2023 20:31

No tables at all in reception at DD’s school. From y1 onwards they are mixed ability tables. So your DH might be right!

FloweryName · 05/09/2023 20:33

It’s likely that children will be seated according to ability when they do small group work, but not when it’s snack time, especially in the first week of September.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/09/2023 20:40

doroda · 05/09/2023 20:23

OP doesn't need to feel ashamed. Nobody actively wants a lower ability child do they

It doesn't mean they will always be low ability just that they can't do certain things YET. The teacher will have to differentiate planning for different levels so children can get the help they need. They won't be sitting at tables all day anyway.

Confetto · 05/09/2023 20:40

Would be very unusual for reception, as they'll be free flowing most of the day anyway. Besides, how would they know ability when they've not baselined yet?

Howtohandl · 05/09/2023 20:41

I can’t imagine it will be ability as how would they know when they’ve only just started?

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/09/2023 20:47

I was a Reception teacher and my last Head Teacher made me have three ability groups. He wanted me to do writing at a table with those groups, so, 10 children who couldn't hold a pencil yet all in one group writing. It was complete nonsense and one reason why we fell out and I left. Learning has to be differentiated but grouping should be fluid and depend on the activity. Not all learning takes place at a table it could be on the floor or outside unless you have a dick head who wants to treat 4 year olds like 11 year olds in charge.

It's not really possible to tell you the significance of Red table in your school.

Charmatt · 05/09/2023 20:49

Fourunderfourx · 05/09/2023 20:02

Thanks my DH thinks I'm being crazy and they are just coloured to help children know where they have to sit 🤦‍♀️

I doubt I'll ever know whether red indicates top bottom or middle in terms of ability, she's one of the youngest but her report was very good so hopefully it's not bottom, crazy to even worry about at 4!

The development gap between my son and any ability group in his class was so great that to be any part of a coloured table group would have been an achievement.

I'm so proud of the man he has become - you couldn't meet a kinder, more willing to help young man.

Don't compare your child to another- celebrate their strengths, whether they be academic, social, emotional or physical.

Comparison is the thief of joy!

AvengedQuince · 05/09/2023 20:50

Twizbe · 05/09/2023 19:56

It will do, but the kids won’t catch on to that until much later.

There will be lots of movement between tables as abilities develop, development gaps close and friendships form.

DS had the tables/groups figured out very early on!

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