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I’ve ruined my son with television

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MarleyMallow · 14/08/2023 11:35

Hello. For a long time I was going through a major mental health crisis. Lots of bad things happened to me, I was single parenting and had no family around and I was in a dark place. During this time my poor 2 year old watched a lot of television- I know it’s awful, I am so ashamed of myself, but it was the only way I could cope.

Im getting better now and my son (now 3) goes to a bit of nursery, we go out every day, socialise and do lots of activities. He is a fairly switched on kid and has no developmental delays which I am so thankful for. He’s starting to read letters and can spell his own name and county to 30, so thankfully television hasn’t held him back there.

But he has zero patience, cannot play with toys for more than a few minutes And will not play alone. I’ve cleared out all his toys so he isn’t overwhelmed and have a few that are varied from puzzles to cars to building things - all age appropriate and all bits he enjoys. But he never goes to play with them, he’s asks for tv all the time. I say no, and he loses it. When he’s upset he asks for a cuddle and then tv, showing that he is using it for comfort as well as me.

I feel awful. Someone on here said you can tell children who watch too much tv as they have no patience. I am desperate to get this right. I know I’m a terrible mother who has massively screwed up. I am praying I haven’t done any permanent damage - please don’t tell me anything about the brain being so or the neural pathways and tv too long - I get it, I have really screwed up. How can I do damage limitation here? What can do I do to fix my mess? If he’s upset then I comfort him. If he asks for tv I say no because I want him to seek comfort elsewhere, but how can I increase his attention span, lengthen his patience etc? I read that children his age should be playing independently for 30-40 minutes, he won’t even do 2.

Please don’t have a go at me, I know I’m the worst mum. I am desperate to make this right.

Thank you.

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CoalCraft · 14/08/2023 16:20

Nicknamesforviolet · 14/08/2023 12:10

30 to 40 minutes is COMPLETELY out of left field. At school we expect children to be able to play/self direct for their age + 1 or 2 minutes. So 5 would be the absolute maximum without any adult support. Where on earth did you get that? Have you spoken to your health visitor?

He sounds completely normal and you seem like you might need more support for your self criticism which is unwarranted x

So a two year old got example should only be able to manage 4 mins or so? This seems really low compared to my (admittedly limited) experience of mine and friends' toddlers, though maybe it's different in a home environment vs. school?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/08/2023 16:32

Listen, I was very much organic food, tasteful wooden toys, no screens, vegetarian (because I am), finger painting, balance bike riding, puddle jumping, all that shite.

But since we don't live in a cave on an island my son came to discover: TV, ham, NERF guns, party rings, lurid soft plays, slushies, horrible slogan t-shirts, YouTube kids, Pokémon...the lot. As soon as he got a sniff of these things he was all over them and still is

It's not because you failed him - it's because kids like what they like.

My son never played with that fucking Grimm's rainbow. If I was doing it again I would just unclench and let him watch cartoons.

bakewellbride · 14/08/2023 16:36

Your child is normal! No harm done. Please relax and enjoy your child. 3 year olds are not known for patience or entertaining themselves as others have pointed out.

When kids get new siblings the tv is usually heavily relied on there and you don't see loads and loads of 'damaged' firstborns, they are ok.

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MarleyMallow · 14/08/2023 16:39

Thank you everyone, I have felt really teary reading these replies. I feel so guilty about all the things I feel I’ve done wrong, it’s so reassuring to hear people saying it sounds normal.

I confess I read online that they should be able to play independently for that long and have spoken to friends with children who are the same who say their children can play for lengths of time independently, although not sure if it’s quite that long.

I have taken on board all your suggestions and will be implementing things such as slowly taking myself off an increasing the time and moving the tv or remote. I like the idea of parallel play and definitely getting him involved in more household tasks.

Thank you all so much. X

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bagforlifeamnesty · 14/08/2023 16:39

I don’t know any 3yo who can play independently for 30 mins. My 4.5 yo can only just about manage that. Please don’t worry, he’ll be fine.

bagforlifeamnesty · 14/08/2023 16:40

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/08/2023 16:32

Listen, I was very much organic food, tasteful wooden toys, no screens, vegetarian (because I am), finger painting, balance bike riding, puddle jumping, all that shite.

But since we don't live in a cave on an island my son came to discover: TV, ham, NERF guns, party rings, lurid soft plays, slushies, horrible slogan t-shirts, YouTube kids, Pokémon...the lot. As soon as he got a sniff of these things he was all over them and still is

It's not because you failed him - it's because kids like what they like.

My son never played with that fucking Grimm's rainbow. If I was doing it again I would just unclench and let him watch cartoons.

This is one of the best replies on parenting I’ve ever read 🙌

Greenfishy · 14/08/2023 16:45

Sweetheart, you did the best you could under incredibly difficult circumstances. Please stop beating yourself up. You sound like an amazing mum.

I’m sorry I don’t have any advice but I didn’t want to read and run. Hopefully you get lots of mumsnetty wisdom!!

Ickystickystickystickybubblegum · 14/08/2023 16:47

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/08/2023 16:32

Listen, I was very much organic food, tasteful wooden toys, no screens, vegetarian (because I am), finger painting, balance bike riding, puddle jumping, all that shite.

But since we don't live in a cave on an island my son came to discover: TV, ham, NERF guns, party rings, lurid soft plays, slushies, horrible slogan t-shirts, YouTube kids, Pokémon...the lot. As soon as he got a sniff of these things he was all over them and still is

It's not because you failed him - it's because kids like what they like.

My son never played with that fucking Grimm's rainbow. If I was doing it again I would just unclench and let him watch cartoons.

Should be on every single parenting thread ever!

bookworm14 · 14/08/2023 16:54

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/08/2023 16:32

Listen, I was very much organic food, tasteful wooden toys, no screens, vegetarian (because I am), finger painting, balance bike riding, puddle jumping, all that shite.

But since we don't live in a cave on an island my son came to discover: TV, ham, NERF guns, party rings, lurid soft plays, slushies, horrible slogan t-shirts, YouTube kids, Pokémon...the lot. As soon as he got a sniff of these things he was all over them and still is

It's not because you failed him - it's because kids like what they like.

My son never played with that fucking Grimm's rainbow. If I was doing it again I would just unclench and let him watch cartoons.

I want to get this made into a motivational poster!

Nicknamesforviolet · 14/08/2023 23:28

CoalCraft · 14/08/2023 16:20

So a two year old got example should only be able to manage 4 mins or so? This seems really low compared to my (admittedly limited) experience of mine and friends' toddlers, though maybe it's different in a home environment vs. school?

Essentially for an adult directed activity they may not be interested in (e.g. adults talking at the front of the class). Self directed with their friends or a familiar activity then yes I would expect longer. But for a child who is reluctant to play or play alone then 4 mins would be about as we would expect. Short and often will help develop independence :)

Lots of children can play for longer independently if they are interested (my LO doing lego or watching Frozen) but may find it harder to focus on something new or less enjoyable. Hence the many battles for bedtime reading being common at a younger age :) not to mention if they just want to spend time with an adult to play with them - also my LO!

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