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Potty training 27mo set backs

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Zlistcharacterinashitshow · 22/07/2023 16:39

This thread isn't for beating me up, so just advice on the question - when to restart....
So we tried 1st in that heatwave we had in June, all amazing until DD did a poo which disgusted her and then refused to sit on potty. So we didn't push it and waited until today to re-start...she'd been asking loads the last week but I wasn't in a position to restart.
Today it's been awful so I stopped trying before her nap and she's back in pull ups. I probably shouldn't have started today...it only worked well last time because she went on the potty straight away once I took her nighttime nappy off... I'd had had bad night last night so DH got up with her and had already changed her bless him before I came down 10 mins after. I left her in that pull up for an hour before I said well let's be a big girl today and use the potty....refusal started there....we're in the terrible 2s...I should have started properly tomorrow...anyway after struggling all morning, I gave up/in put a pull up on and haven't mentioned potty since.
I know it shouldn't be pressurised for them and it wasn't really but I guess kind of was due to the typical 2yo power struggle.
When should I restart, how long should I leave it?
I'm thinking next weekend, DH suggests tomorrow...I think tomorrow is to close to today's disaster and she won't have forgotten?

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Zlistcharacterinashitshow · 22/07/2023 21:51

Just bumping....im tempted to leave it until next weekend rather than try again tomorrow...WWYD?

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Alexahelp · 22/07/2023 23:06

I’d not actively do anything for a couple of months, but just leave the potty out so
if she wants to, she can. If it’s a power struggle it’s probably not the right time, no hurry at that age.

Viewfrommyhouse · 22/07/2023 23:07

Just leave it for a few months. She's only 2. If they're ready, it really shouldn't be stressful like that. I left ds until he was nearly 3yo. It took 3 days.

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Merrz · 22/07/2023 23:12

I wouldn't push it at all at her age, leave it a few months. Sticker/reward charts work well. Also if she's been put off the potty why not skip the potty and get one of those step toilet seats so she just goes straight to using the toilet seat

Zlistcharacterinashitshow · 23/07/2023 06:28

Thanks everyone ☺

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Jun123 · 24/07/2023 17:47

Hi I wouldn’t put so much pressure on yourself or Dd. I have 4 children and one never was fully toilet trained till they were nearly 4 but my first was toilet trained night and day by 2 years old. Think it is when they are ready and be in no rush. 😊

Sonolanona · 26/07/2023 00:44

Solidarity OP... we have a 27m old refuser here too.
My little grandson can hold his wee for hours, has control.. point blank refuses the potty or toilet. DD wants to have another go.. but I'm not sure because he has a will of iron! He also had some great success in June but now just does not want to.
We are going to have one more attempt (with bribes) and if that fails I guess we will leave it til he's 3. (I look after him half the week so we have to be consistent!)
Good luck!

Cormoran · 26/07/2023 05:16

I wanted to share the French way of doing potty training which is very different and maybe can help someone.
The école maternelle (pre-school) doesn't accept kids in nappies, so training happens before the age of 3 and as everyone knows, the wish needs to come from the kid. In France, kids don't have a GP but a paediatrician who guides on weaning and potty training as well. Paediatricians advise against pull-ups and against cool nappies. It has to be the bulky, plain ones, and the kid has be lying down to get changed. They are ugly and uncomfortable, and a constant reminder the kid is a baby. on the other hand, the underwear is super cool with princess or superman.
Interrupting a movie or play to get changed, having a big nappy when playing at the park is a good incentive. Never humiliated, never shamed, we leave it to the kid. " I know it is not fun to have a nappy, one day when you want , we can teach you how to no longer have the need" .

And we don't do first day then night, it is all at once.

Just sharing another way of doing things.

Viewfrommyhouse · 01/08/2023 20:10

Cormoran · 26/07/2023 05:16

I wanted to share the French way of doing potty training which is very different and maybe can help someone.
The école maternelle (pre-school) doesn't accept kids in nappies, so training happens before the age of 3 and as everyone knows, the wish needs to come from the kid. In France, kids don't have a GP but a paediatrician who guides on weaning and potty training as well. Paediatricians advise against pull-ups and against cool nappies. It has to be the bulky, plain ones, and the kid has be lying down to get changed. They are ugly and uncomfortable, and a constant reminder the kid is a baby. on the other hand, the underwear is super cool with princess or superman.
Interrupting a movie or play to get changed, having a big nappy when playing at the park is a good incentive. Never humiliated, never shamed, we leave it to the kid. " I know it is not fun to have a nappy, one day when you want , we can teach you how to no longer have the need" .

And we don't do first day then night, it is all at once.

Just sharing another way of doing things.

What about the children that genuinely aren't ready or able by that age?

Also, night time dryness is mainly physiological. It's not about what a child does or doesn't want to do. The 'french' way sounds cruel and backwards tbh.

Sonolanona · 02/08/2023 10:14

Nighttime dryness is physiological and no 'encouraging' can make a child ready if they aren't producing the hormone that allows them to stay dry throughout the night.
I agree the french way sounds unkind..fine if the child is ready but if they are not?

We've had some success this week, through a very old fashioned method.. bribery ! As we KNEW he was physically ready but didn't want to bother, I bought a huge pack of diecast toy cars from amazon. Then told him that when HE chose to wee in the potty he could chose one (just one!)
20 mins later with a bare bottom.. 'Granny wee wee potty!!!' Being the holidays and having stuff on it's not possible to just stay in for a week, but he's bare in the house and has had quite a few successes... and has realised it's worth it for a treat Grin (not always cars I hasten to add, a couple of chocolate buttons also serves) Once it's routine the rewards will be phased out slowly!

Percypiglover · 02/08/2023 13:36

My 2.5 year old started couple of weeks ago, fairly good with wee's a few accidents but generally ok. But when it comes to poo no idea!! I potty trained because he was ready wanted to use potty etc but is a bit of a pain with the poo. It's me second and I hated it the first time round and not loving it this time either!!! He has grasped the wee part better than my eldest but no idea what to do about poo!!

Percypiglover · 02/08/2023 13:37

Sorry posted too early, my advice is not to go too early if they don't want to sit down just don't push it, keep potty out, have some naked time as they are more likely to go on the potty if it's easier and just go with it.

MakeMeShine · 02/08/2023 13:52

The issue is you haven’t committed. You can’t be casual about it. This whole “leaving the potty out in case they want to try” thing lets it drag on for months and then people say their kids aren’t ready.

They are, if you commit. I recommend the Oh Crap Potty Training book - the ideal window is 20 - 30 months. Any younger is too young and any older you start to meet resistance because they’ve got more will.

In that window they tend to accept it as just the new normal so it’s easier, but only if you commit.

Nightime dryness is hormonal though so that’s just a case of waiting until they’re dry at night to remove nappies then.

Lily0719 · 02/08/2023 14:09

Cormoran · 26/07/2023 05:16

I wanted to share the French way of doing potty training which is very different and maybe can help someone.
The école maternelle (pre-school) doesn't accept kids in nappies, so training happens before the age of 3 and as everyone knows, the wish needs to come from the kid. In France, kids don't have a GP but a paediatrician who guides on weaning and potty training as well. Paediatricians advise against pull-ups and against cool nappies. It has to be the bulky, plain ones, and the kid has be lying down to get changed. They are ugly and uncomfortable, and a constant reminder the kid is a baby. on the other hand, the underwear is super cool with princess or superman.
Interrupting a movie or play to get changed, having a big nappy when playing at the park is a good incentive. Never humiliated, never shamed, we leave it to the kid. " I know it is not fun to have a nappy, one day when you want , we can teach you how to no longer have the need" .

And we don't do first day then night, it is all at once.

Just sharing another way of doing things.

@Cormoran I live in France and it’s not correct (at least where we are) regarding pull-ups and only encouraging bulky nappies. In fact our creche used pull-ups for the older children.

@Viewfrommyhouse It is true however that the kids need to be toilet trained before they start maternelle in the September of the year they turn 3, and if they are not.. then we were advised we would have to come and change them when they did something in their nappy 🙈.

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