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Indirect contact with my son

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Richard1979 · 24/06/2023 09:47

Hi.

I'm a father, with a 9 year old son (M). I left my partner 4 years ago, as the relationship was toxic and not something I wanted to model for my son. Constant arguments, raised voices etc. It was ugly and neither of us showered ourselves in glory tbh.

A lengthy, expensive legal fight ensued. I was accused of abuse, which was false. She spread stories around the village which were untrue about me being 'controlling.' In hindsight, I've realised that the controlling behaviour was hers. I was trapped in a terrible relationship, by emotional control, because I felt walking away would result in her doing something terrible. She has a history of mental heath struggles, and I felt I couldn't leave. It was exposing our son to it, that made me act and leave.

Sorry, that was important for context. I'm not looking for an echo chamber, or writing here because I feel you will write what I want to hear. I'm going to just try and stick to the facts now.

Four years on, I am happily married. I have a wonderful wife who loves M as much as I do. They have a really positive relationship. The environment is positive, no arguments or shouting. Ever. She was herself a divorcee from an abusive marriage. (control) She doesn't recognise any of the traits in me. In fact, it's the opposite. Im not a different person, so I don't believe I was ever controlling in my previous relationship.
M shows himself to be happy and confident in our care.

The Child Care Arrangement.
I enjoy more time with my son that most fathers. As our son was 6 at the time of writing, there are lines which ensure we must each facilitate phonecalls to the other parent on Xmas and new year. My ex takes this as the full extent to which indirect contact is allowed. No other phonecalls, no letters or cards allowed. I used to draw my son cartoons, and write short notes of care to show he was in our thoughts. These were all intercepted and withheld.
There is nothing in the order which expresses we should impede indirect contact. This is the important point to make, because she feels she should.
No is 9, he has a child friendly smart watch from us to take and receive phone calls, messages and pictures. His mother's view is that it doesn't fall within the parameters of the care arrangement and he doesn't feel like he can use it by proxy of this opinion.
He does want to use it. He uses it in our care, occasionally making calls to his mother. We are fine with that. Totally. But he feels the need to switch it off when he goes back into his mother's care.

What should we do? How can we correct his view of what is allowed in the 'rules'. I've explained to him, the rules are there for mum and dad to follow, not him. I also told him, there are no rules for him not to be able to talk to us with his on phone or watch or anything! He doesn't believe me though.
My worry is, he is under the same emotional control I was under. Fearing from upsetting his mother...

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SullysBabyMama · 25/06/2023 18:27

I absolutely would feel it was controlling if my children’s father gave him a smartwatch and told him he could call whenever he wanted on my time, even when I said the watch was not allowed at my house. Then is the child’s father talked to him about the court order (adult business) and told him I was wrong for not letting him call…
Also no tech bought by my ex would be welcomed into my house if I thought he was controlling as they are so easily tracking devices.

OakTreex · 25/06/2023 19:22

Sorry but I agree with @SullysBabyMama. As someone with an abusive ex who sadly has to check my child's bag/coat for listening devices, it wouldn't be allowed in my house. I know you state you aren't controlling, and no one here can know either way, but if she has felt that way (whether misguided or not) then I can understand if.

And, although I understand you feel it would be beneficial if more indirect contact was taking place in the interest of coparenting and communication with your son, the order does not compel it and doesn't compel her to ensure it (aside from the occasions you've mentioned).

I really don't think you should be discussing this in any way with your son, at all. It's grown up business. Pushing the issue will give him a sense of your conflict/disdain for his mother's stance and although I appreciate you may feel that way it won't do him any favours to know that.

As others have said this issue will resolve as he gets old. Maintain calm civility as much as possible and keep adult business away from him. Remain positive and child-focussed about his time with his mum. He'll thank you for that down the line.

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