Advice needed please re wetting!

[notnowbernard]

Ok, dd1 is 4.3

Has been reliably and consistently dry since about 3.4-5m (sometimes wets if poorly etc)

For the last week or so has been wetting in the day. Not 'full-on' accidents, but leaving it too late, wet enough for knickers to have to be changed. She realises and goes to the toilet.

I'm pretty sure it's not a UTI (she's had one before) as it's only happening once a day, the other day twice. She has had periods of regression before, whilst training, but not for AGES.

What approach to take?

Ignore?
Reward chart?
'Punishment'? (ie toy-removal)

Am stuck, and thought all this malarkey was over long ago!!!

Sorry

'Tis a boring subject I know

But any suggestions welcome!

What about having a chat with her and ask what would help reminder her to use the toilet ?

ha! you think its over? never is.
she may well be too involved in what she is doing to want to take time out to go to toilet. this has happened with dd recently, and used to happen regularly with cousin and poo. his mom made him wash his clothes by hand before he stopped doing it.
just remind her togo to the toilet every so often.

hi this is happening in the pirate household too.

here

I am going back to the gp, but do hope its a phase.

Thank you all for replying

I generally don't remind her because her answer is always "I don't need a wee" (and she's mostly right, tbh). I generally tell her to go before we go out somewhere, go out for long-ish car journey etc.

Pukka, I agree if she is in the middle of doing something she just can't be arsed sometimes! To dd, it is simply a case of "if i'm wet it doesn't matter, I'll just put clean knickers on"

Piratecat - thanks for the link to your thread and sorry this is happening for you and dd! It does sound like a possible UTI, I think... def get the GP to send specimen off, when DD had her UTI it was negative at the surgery but came back positive from the lab.

Worms... would they not be itchy and uncomfortable?

Well, dd hasn't wet today so far. Will keep an eye and if it persists will take to the GP also, I think. In the meantime dp reckons ignore totally as this has worked in the past (she was a lot younger then, though, andd dd2 was quite new)

Thanks again

Am reviving this thread because the situation has not resolved, so wondered if anyone could offer some wise words!

Went to Gp to rule out infection - urine clear.

She's wetting once or twice a day. (Not complete wetting, leaving it too late and needing to change underwear, sometimes clothes too)

Started to remind her regularly. ALWAYS says no. Then lately will be wet 5mins later!

Started to encourage to go. Cue refusals, minor strops etc, then wet 5mins later!

Sod all seems to work for DD1... she's not bothered or embarrased by it, so I can't seem to think of a suitable 'consequence'...

Ignoring it is v.frustrating, esp when out!

Right... have made decision to reward a dry day with a chocolate treat

And a dry week gets a trip to Toys R Us

Hmmm... we'll soon see if we're being played like a beautiful instrument

Found your thread and wisdom. DH tried to re-introduce the smartie for a wee system we had for potty training today, and she wasn't interested . But she has been dry all day.

Can't bear the idea of worms (there have been cases at school). I know nothing about this at all or how to deal with it, so I thing some googling might be in order. If she has worms I will feel dreadful about getting a bit cross with her.

hope your treats and Toys R Us reward works. We should have a was dry, now not, support thread!

I really think you'd know if it was worms... the itching (esp at night) is supposed to be unbearable, it wouldn't go unnoticed

DD only had one 'accident' today

She'll be at Grandma's tomorrow, though, where 'little accidents' don't matter

We'll see!

OK - so maybe we're in the clear (please) - she did complain of an itchy bum a few days ago but hasn't since.

Either way I think there will be a 90 degree wash going on in a few hours

Good luck for tomorrow.

Thanks, you too!

Right, reward chart appears not to be working

3 days in and no impact

Appears not to give a rat's arse whether she gets chocolate at the end of the day or not... a week seems a VERY long way off atm!

Clearly looks like she needs the loo, but insists she doesn't... I get into a battle with her about it... she's wet 5mins later

It's DOING MY HEAD IN!

Getting pissed off with her and don't like it

Any advice gratefully received

Arse. just lost my whole post.

in short. How annoying. Its exhausting. Depressing. And we still have to jump that now enormous hurdle of being dry at night which at the moment seems too much!

Good luck for the weekend.

Hi Moodlum

After writing my last post (at which point things had been a bit grim on the wetting front) I decided to just stop going on about it. COMPLETELY

Have subsequently totally avoided any toilet-related discussion, not given any response to an accident, only given 'mild' praise for using the toilet properly and independently (ie a casual "good girl" as opposed to OTT celebrating), reminded only in a general way (ie "we're going out now, everyone do a wee before we go")

Guess what?

Dry for the last 2 days, only one accident on thursday

Hoping that maybe this strategy could work for you?

That's great news and good advice, bernard, thanks. Have sort of put it into practise and tried to be much more low key about it all. Its improved a little now, with the introduction of large exotic purple Kandoo soap dispenser which has provided if nothing else, an excuse to be in the loo!

hello and thanks for directing me to this thread moodlum.

do you think it's poss to try the star chart method and the playing it down method at the same time? they don't seem that compatible .

Have got the fear about threadworms now - have never heard of them and am now remembering that dd complained a few times of discomfort in her nether regions last week. Yeuch.

I got the fear about threadworms as well, but someone comforted me with the fact that they are literally unbearably itchy especially at night, so you would really notice, so lets tick that off our list of things to worry about

Right. Back to diabetes then .

Hi Notnowbernard
I have just joined mums net this evening with the express aim of trying to get some advice to stop my DS doing exactly the same sort of thing that your DD was/is doing. I came to the conclusion today that I also would just stop mentioning the issue at all to my son. However am finding it extremely difficult to stop, especially when I can see that he's wearing a sopping wet pair of trousers. He's 4 by the way. How are you getting on?

By the way I had threadworm loads of times as a kid (lived on farm, licked cows etc). No big deal, but yes, bloody itchy at night-time. Used to have to take this awful medicine called pripsen to get rid of them, which was actually worse than having the worms.

Hi Ritzyrat

Ignoring is working

She hasn't wet herself for days now... think the last time was last Monday? See, I've almost forgotten about it, which proves it is the best approach! (For me, anyway)

Good luck with your ds... let us know how you get on

btw, have you ruled out an infection for your ds?

I haven't but I've got some urine dipsticks kicking about (lapsed district nurse) so I'll dip his wee in the morning. Like your DD, my DS was doing quite well, and just recently seems to have regressed both in the day and night, for no reason that I can think of. I'm not bothered about the night-time too much though. Just very frustrating and as he'll be going to school in the nearish future, I'm getting a bit desperate. He just doesn't seem to give a toss. I've heard that it could be attention seeking behaviour, but he doesn't appear to seek the attention when he's wet himself. Would stay in wet pants/trousers all day if I let him.

Yes, rule out UTI

DD1 has had one before (dipstick was -ve, but GP sent it off anyway and it came back +ve, so maybe best to go to GP?)

Yes. Will do. Am going to bed now.

Thanks ritzyrat