Toilet etiquette for a 4 year old

[creativebutterfly]

My DD is 4 and is toilet trained, and knows to wipe after a wee etc but number twos she has difficulty keeping things clean I.e her knickers - she however is very independent and doesn't really like to call for me to help her but usually I hover outside the toilet door, if I'm available so I can be on hand if she gets into difficulty- surely I'm not the only parent who has been through this or something similar. How did you encourage your child to be independent yet gently offer support in this area. DD is starting reception in September so yes this needs addressing now. Note that she occasionally has soiled herself since becoming fully potty trained over a year ago.

Anyone out there?

At that age I would let mine try to do it themselves, but then check that they're clean.
They've not really got the motor skills at that age to clean up perfectly but it's good for them to be independent and give it a try.

Keep spare pants in the bathroom and if next time she goes she needs to change them she can.

Mine is 51/2 and I still get called to wipe - I actively want to help to avoid poopy pants!! I'm afraid I'm in the crowd that belief wiping your arse with dry toilet paper alone is gross!!

Mine is 5 and still asks for me to check because he doesn't want a sore bum or dirty pants! He doesn't really need it, but it's getting his confidence up that he's done a good job.

This is what I'm trying to work out with our four year old.

We're still wiping his bum because we use a bidet and I can't see any way he can reasonably sit on it, angle the water, wash himself and not get either him, the floor or both covered in water.

What will he do at school?

Work on games that increase stretch between legs like passing balls to each other.

Have you taught her to keep wiping until the paper comes away completely clean even if it takes a while / a few goes?

Have you showed them the steps of how to check after after each wipe until they’re clean? Get some of those wet toilet wipes and let them have a go at wiping themselves then check as other have said. Then you can say “just one more wipe” or let them know they’re all clean and won’t need you checking soon. If they’re really independent being able to do it by themselves should be an incentive to clean themselves properly.

In his pre-school I think he's using paper but I should find out, it's not something which has been a high priority. He comes home with clean underwear and we've just got into the habit of wiping him.

As a result "oh we should think about teaching him to wipe" is one of those thoughts we have and forget about.

His preschool is usually pretty good at reminding parents about these things, they insisted we had them potty trained for twoish.

FYI - not in UK so he's going to be starting school at seven

That really takes the pressure off.
Is there not an age where preschool no longer deems it appropriate?
I always suggest they try and I check