Car seat advice- Cosatto all in all rotate

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Does anyone have experience of the Cosatto all in all rotate car seat or just general experience of a car seat of this type? It’s one that stays in the car and rotates so easier to get baby in and out.

We bought this recently because DS is 10 months and has outgrown his infant car seat. The couple times that we have used it DS has fallen asleep and his head flops forward. The first time this happened I stupidly sat in the front and only noticed once home that he had flopped forward and I was horrified. It didn’t occur to me that this could even happen as I’m a FTM and this never happened at all with the infant car seat as it is nice and reclined! We have ‘reclined’ it as far as it can go (if you can call it a recline) it tips ever so slightly back for what looked like a couple of centimetres I almost laughed out loud.

So today on a family outing I sat in the back with him and when he fell asleep I tilted his back so it was resting on the seat behind him, great I thought, I will just have to sit in the back with him for every journey and do this. However, I noticed his head would be jolted from side to side every time the car turned left or right. The car seat came with head support inserts but these are for new borns only and if I put them in the seat there no room for his head at all, so it seems you have to choose between forcing his head into an unmovable space (impossible/not comfortable or safe) or leaving his head to flop about with every movement of the car!

I was so upset to see his little head sliding around I had to keep my hand next to his head to give it some stability but this seems like a pretty insane way to travel and we couldn’t really do that on any long distance drives. It’s really upset me because my family live 500 miles away and now I know driving to see them isn’t really a feasible option what with journey time as well as the fact my baby can’t comfortably fall asleep in the car seat!

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this just how the car seats are and as baby gets older they will fill the space more and so not get flung around so much? I feel like I’m missing a trick here.

We can’t afford another car seat as we have spent £170 on this one and my maternity pay has now stopped. I feel really angry and cheated that companies like this make these products to keep babies safe but all it has done is make me worry for my baby’s safety.

Sorry for the long rant! Pic and link of the seat:

https://www.babyplanetonline.co.uk/cosatto-all-in-all-rotate-isofix-car-seat-sea-monsters-birth-to-12-years?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9deiBhC1ARIsAHLjR2ABbFvVnxEDnzPWvNwT1FXsvTkKj0hOA_njlaNOYnaHqBWml79rFEYaAp3fEALw_wcB

This is usually to do with the angle of the isofix points and the rear seats in your car unfortunately. If you bought it online and have had it less than 14 days you may be able to return it under the distance selling act. Some car seats have a counteract to the slope built in but in this one it's quite minimal.

Does the head part of the insert separate off the main piece? Usually you can keep the main piece in a bit longer, they aren't always just for newborns.

Also you could check whether the headrest is in the right position, if it's too low then it can force their shoulders forward which can cause their head to flop. Make sure your baby lies back in the seat when you're tightening the straps, too. It's common for babies of this age to be nosey and want to sit up and look around when you put them in the seat and this can cause the straps to tighten over their shoulders with a gap between their back and the backrest of the seat. This can also cause them to fall forward when asleep. Try bringing a toy into the car and holding it above him so he has to lean back and look up to get it, then tighten the straps while he's lying back. I tend to make the straps really loose, click them in and then do the toy trick before positioning them and tightening.

I think you’re right about the sloping of the seats. It’s a BMW and I think the seats are very sloped. Unfortunately it’s been 17 days since I bought it online but it did take a week to arrive. Even if I did send it back, not sure we could afford an even more expensive one than this.

Yes, the head part of the insert does detach from the main piece. I could try putting it back in but when the insert was in, baby would lean even more forward to keep his head free from it IYSWIM.

I will check the head rest position and make sure he lies back in the seat when I’m buckling him in. The toy truck is a very good idea and I’ll give it a try. Thanks so much for the advice x

Trick not truck, although a toy truck would probably work 🤣

It's 14 days from arrival not from order date, so you might have time. You wouldn't necessarily need an expensive seat, just one that takes the slope into account. If you could find somewhere to test out the Graco spin seats, those are a similar price but tend to have fewer issues, or you could look at Joie Stages or Steadi (cheaper but you lose the spin).

I would try the insert without the head piece too because although he will still want to lift his head up to see, when he falls asleep that would let his head drop back into the seat rather than forwards.

How is it if you fit it seatbelt only and skip the isofix base? Better angle?

You can't do that with this seat unfortunately as it's not one of the infant carriers, it's an all stages seat which is isofix fitting only.

Oh it says on the info seatbelt fitting too.

"Universal belted only fitting for...."

Oh right sorry, I did miss that. Even then though, these seats don't get any different of an angle, it's not like infant carriers, the base stays attached. Plus you can't rotate it when it's belt fitted.

As seen here, not possible to change the angle with isofix vs belt fitting, which is different to an infant carrier that has the curved base so you can push it backwards.

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Wow lots of replies on here. Thanks everyone 😊

Update: today we tried putting all the inserts back in. While baby is awake and ‘actively’ sitting up he keeps his head almost too forward in order to avoid the restriction around the head but when sleeps and fully relaxed backwards his head slotted nicely into the new born head inserts and his head was fully secure and no jolting around. So I think it will be ok. I will keep sitting in the back with him until he gets used to it and hopefully he will soon get used to his head being amongst the padded inserts! x

Do you have him rear or forward facing?

He’s rear facing. I think they have to be rear facing at least until 1 yr but preferably as long as possible/up to 4 years.

Just checking! I know the seat can do ERF but that doesn’t mean everyone uses it that way. And I assume the head dropping forward would be worse if in the fairway facing position because of the angle.

Hey, I've been having this issue the entire time we've been using this seat. I just thought it was normal - FTM - but apparently not 🤦‍♀️ our little is 11m old now and it's still happening. He's fairly chunky so not sure the infant inserts will work.
I think my issue is the slope of the rear seats in my car. They aren't flat at all so little is pretty much sat upright in his seat even though its rear facing and reclined. I strap him in while he is sat back, I've lifted the head rest etc etc. Is there anything else that might work?
Or could anyone recommend another car seat that spins and goes from group 0/1 up to group 4?

Thanks. Xx

We've got the joie 1 spin 360 x 2. Our children are 2 next month and 3.5. We liked it so much we bought a second one. Both were in the same infant carrier to about a year first. We seem to get a really good tilt rearward facing but I think our seats are also quite flat (Vauxhall insignia estate). Our kids are also quite small so expecting to get to 5 ish in the seats. They were around 300. We got presents which we used towards the cost though.

Then move them to a good high backed booster.

The only spin seat that works with sloping vehicle seats is the besafe izi twist (besafe izi turn).

Other than this you would need a belt fitted seat which can be used with a wedge eg Britax Max way plus, axkid move, axkid minikid.