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Son anxious over possibly increasing overnight stays at dads any advice?

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Jessicarosex94x · 30/04/2023 15:49

Bit of background, my son is 7 and for the last 5 years has had the routine of Mon-Fri with me Fri-Sun with dad.

Suddenly now dads asking to have him 3 nights a week to which I said yes but pick either Thursday or Sunday so it's not moving DS from house to house through the week. And saves faffing/carting after school club uniforms and stuff he needs etc about. He's said no to either of these as it needs to be the Wednesday. (His shifts are the same 6.30-2.30 Mon-Fri) so no reason why it needs to be the Wednesday. Just suits his social/pub life better I imagine. To which I said if it's got to be that day maybe instead get him from school have tea Wednesday then he comes home in the evening. But no needs to be over night needs to be Wednesday. I suspect the motive behind this is due to maintenance as new partner on the scene. Anyway we're currently applying for mediation now.

Son came home today and said to
me 'can we keep things the same mummy so I have 5 nights with you?' I was very shocked as I don't know why on earth any of this would be discussed with DS until we have come to some kind of agreement over this. I sort of said well if you want more time at daddys you know that's ok but if you don't you also need to speak to him about it to which he responded 'please can you.' I get the feeling dads talked about it with him and DS has said yes out of not wanting to hurt dads feelings but is now scared that this will actually happen and wants me to stop it. But I can't and I don't know what to do obviously at mediation I'll explain all this and try push for no changes but ultimately I think it'll end in the 3 nights going ahead because he is his father after all. I can't speak to dad as everything I say he sees as an attack and just tries to argue a case back.

Just in your opinion do you think my hands are tied with increasing to 3 nights or do I have a chance at keeping it at 2? Will the mediator or court or wherever it ends up see my point of trying not to disrupt routines and if the night happens to make it a Thursday or a Sunday? I feel heartbroken knowing that the current routine is good for DS and at the thought of loosing a night with him but I'd put that aside if I thought it's what my DS wanted but now I know he's worried makes it so much worse. Also he gets legal aid I don't therefore I feel he'll not want to budge in the slightest at mediation knowing it's costing him nothing and me practically all savings I have and my money will inevitably run out.

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Theunamedcat · 30/04/2023 15:54

See what they say in mediation explain a midweek night doesnt suit you and your child has expressed reservations to you keep it totally child focused as in "I don't think it's in his best interests to be shuttling back and forth so much" "I have no issues with extra time if that's what ds wants" my favourite is "I'm concerned dad is putting his convenience over his child's wellbeing"

Aquamarine1029 · 30/04/2023 15:54

All of this back and forth is not in the best interests of your child. Him staying at his father's on a Wednesday night every week would be very, very disruptive for a child his age. He's already told you he doesn't want to do this. Prepare a very convincing argument for when you go to court.

WheelsUp · 30/04/2023 16:03

Make sure he understands that Wednesdays apply to school holidays too and he needs to pay a childcare provider on that day. While you look after ds and give him breakfast as you're responsible until 9am (school start time) on a school holiday Wednesday, he needs to pay someone to have him 9-3 then pick him up after work. Half term is end of May so he will need to book something for Wednesday asap and look into the summer holiday Wednesdays now.

Don't fall into the trap of looking after ds on school holiday Wednesdays until ex finishes work. If he wants that day, he is responsible from
9am Wednesday until 9am Thursday. Ask him how he's going to drop off Ds on Thursdays. Breakfast club isn't open that early and dropping ds off at your home at 5am is cruel.

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Jessicarosex94x · 30/04/2023 19:07

WheelsUp · 30/04/2023 16:03

Make sure he understands that Wednesdays apply to school holidays too and he needs to pay a childcare provider on that day. While you look after ds and give him breakfast as you're responsible until 9am (school start time) on a school holiday Wednesday, he needs to pay someone to have him 9-3 then pick him up after work. Half term is end of May so he will need to book something for Wednesday asap and look into the summer holiday Wednesdays now.

Don't fall into the trap of looking after ds on school holiday Wednesdays until ex finishes work. If he wants that day, he is responsible from
9am Wednesday until 9am Thursday. Ask him how he's going to drop off Ds on Thursdays. Breakfast club isn't open that early and dropping ds off at your home at 5am is cruel.

Supposedly work agreed he can start between 7 and 8 when he has DS however I don't know if I believe it but regardless school starts at 8.45 so DS is dropped with a relative they get him ready for school then do the school run but given I live around the corner from the school and don't start work till 9.30 surely makes it so much easier for everyone if DS is with me on school nights. I'd understand if this was the only time he could visit or if there was limited contact but given he has him all weekend I feel he has more time with him than me! given the fact there's little quality time after school and clubs before he's in bed if I want a day out etc I have to wait till school holidays. But yes 100% agree with what you're saying in regards to school holidays which is why I'm not totally against mediation as otherwise no doubt it'd be drop her off Wednesday when I finish work. Plus if the genuine reason is that he wants to 'spend more time' with DS then surely picking him up for an evening together but dropping him off before his bedtime routine wouldn't be an issue.

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