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Why does my baby have to be registered at the same GP as me?

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Sheila4327 · 19/04/2023 19:02

Hi,

Without going into detail I am registered with a GP from my mum's address as my mental health team are there and I don't want to change my mental health team (I have a large mental health history) I am living with the father in another area and registered the baby with a practice in that area. I got a text from my GP (my area) saying they have booked my child in for immunisations. I called them and explained my baby is registered at a different GP to me. They said they won't accept me if my child is at a different GP... I explained the baby's GP didn't have an issue with this. But they were adamant I have to register my baby at their one. It complicates things as then the health visitor changes to my old address (which I can still access as my mum lives there).

Why is this a thing? Why can't we be registered at different GPs?

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PinkPlantCase · 19/04/2023 19:04

Your records are linked, I don’t know how long for but I heard that gay dad who used a surrogate had issues related to this, there being no mum for the baby to be linked to

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/04/2023 19:05

I have no idea but was very unimpressed by finding it was the case when I had my DD. I was with a surgery where we’d lived before who were happy for me to stay with them but they wouldn’t register my baby as they didn’t take new people who were out of area, and the one near us now wouldn’t register the baby without me switching even though DH, her father, was already there.

It caused a massive pain in the arse at the time. Sympathies.

Dartsplayer · 19/04/2023 19:20

Our surgery told us that they put families with the same GP in the surgery because it makes it easier to diagnose genetic and hereditary illnesses from family history

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TheIsleOfTheLost · 19/04/2023 20:02

Isn't that plain sexism? My kids dad has a different gp surgery to us as he didn't want to change to mine. We all live together. Didn't conceive of there being an issue. They happily phone him about kids medical stuff he takes them to appointments. I wouldn't have considered it would be any different if they registered at his gp instead.

lkkjhg · 19/04/2023 20:03

Also best practise for safeguarding reasons.

DisforDarkChocolate · 19/04/2023 20:05

Safeguarding.

amarante · 19/04/2023 20:06

Absolutely safeguarding- I am a Practice Manager.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 19/04/2023 20:15

Silly question time (for which I apologise). But what if the mum had died during/soon after birth? The baby would be registered where? At the dads surgery? Grandparents surgery? Deceased mum surgery? I don’t see an argument for safeguarding if a relation (parent/grandparent) or guardian (foster/adoptive parent etc) is registered alongside the baby and has any relative paperwork to prove their connection at registration.

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/04/2023 20:19

Can people elaborate on “safeguarding”?

What’s an example?

Melroses · 19/04/2023 20:25

Mine were all automatically registered when they were born. Surely it makes sense that the baby has the continuity of being registered at the same GP that monitored their progress before they were born.

Melroses · 19/04/2023 20:29

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/04/2023 20:19

Can people elaborate on “safeguarding”?

What’s an example?

The mother who has given birth is the first person with parental responsibility for a child. If she gives the child up it is through the court system. It creates an unbroken paper trail system for babies and children to prevent child trafficking.

Mycathatesmecuddling · 19/04/2023 20:33

Melroses · 19/04/2023 20:29

The mother who has given birth is the first person with parental responsibility for a child. If she gives the child up it is through the court system. It creates an unbroken paper trail system for babies and children to prevent child trafficking.

But mothers can walk out leaving a child with their father without requiring the court system to intervene?

lkkjhg · 19/04/2023 20:35

Safeguarding (for baby and mother)

Maternal health - PND can have profound impact on baby.

Next of kin for babies is automatically their mother. .. many fathers don't have automatic parental responsibility and therefore can't consent to child's treatment.

Pregnancy and having a newborn is a known risk factor for being a victim of domestic violence.

If a mother breastfeeds her health is directly relevant to baby's nutrition - relevance for medication choices.

mafsfan · 19/04/2023 20:36

Linking domestic violence and child abuse

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 19/04/2023 20:37

Melroses · 19/04/2023 20:29

The mother who has given birth is the first person with parental responsibility for a child. If she gives the child up it is through the court system. It creates an unbroken paper trail system for babies and children to prevent child trafficking.

but doesn’t a father also have parental responsibility? And if on the birth certificate, then there is an official/legal paper trail?

I like your example of continuity of Drs care before and after being born - but house moves/never seeing the same practitioner - I’m guessing that in reality it doesn’t really happen much.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 19/04/2023 20:39

@lkkjhg ah thank you! Makes more sense if the reasoning behind the policy.

Skybluepinky · 19/04/2023 20:41

Safeguarding, u have mental health issues so they would need u and yr children to be at the same surgery.

Melroses · 19/04/2023 20:43

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 19/04/2023 20:37

but doesn’t a father also have parental responsibility? And if on the birth certificate, then there is an official/legal paper trail?

I like your example of continuity of Drs care before and after being born - but house moves/never seeing the same practitioner - I’m guessing that in reality it doesn’t really happen much.

The father may need to be named on the birth certificate with the mother, although that is automatic in marriage. The mother has the parental responsibility from birth.

Everybody has a mother, we all came out of one.

WeWereInParis · 19/04/2023 20:45

If a mother breastfeeds her health is directly relevant to baby's nutrition - relevance for medication choices.

Given the number of times I've been given medication I am unable to take due to breastfeeding, I don't think my surgery pays any attention to the fact I have a baby and may be breastfeeding her. And the fact that a woman has given birth would surely be on her own medical records anyway, regardless of whether the baby is registered there?

Redebs · 19/04/2023 20:47

Fathers are not always biologically related to babies, even if their name is on the birth certificate

Okunevo · 19/04/2023 20:47

What happens if children live with their father most of the time and the mother lives in another town?

Greentree1 · 19/04/2023 20:48

Sounds perfectly reasonable that mother and baby are registered at the same GP surgery, lots of early life stuff involves mother and baby. Once the child is older, if it's more convenient you should be able to change, but I really don't see why you would, if you are having to go to a particular practice why not take your child there?

lkkjhg · 19/04/2023 20:50

Safeguarding cont.

Mother's gp is informed of baby's birth via discharge summary. Baby has NHS number and registered automatically triggering community midwife visits (post natal) and HV referrals.

This ensures that newborns receive appropriate care and should stop them being missed.

It doesn't rely on parents being organised. Far more people live in chaotic circumstances than most people are aware of.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 19/04/2023 20:54

@Melroses thank you! So what would happen if the mother had died at or shortly after the birth? Or had simply walked away as another poster suggested could happen (without a court process involved). Would registering with the fathers surgery be allowed - given the safeguarding reasons given by other pp?

not having been a parent, I just assumed that you would have to follow catchment areas for registering with a gp, not where the mother is registered.

RuthW · 19/04/2023 20:56

It's a safeguarding issue. We don't register a baby without a parent being reg too. It can be the father that's reg though.