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I think I need to sleep train for my own sanity :(

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Moonshine160 · 22/03/2023 20:30

Sorry, another sleep training post. I’ll start by saying that this is my second baby and up until this point as a parent I thought I would never ever consider sleep training my baby or letting them cry no matter how long for. However I am broken, my mental health is suffering and I don’t feel like I am a good mum anymore, certainly not to my eldest who is 4 years old.

DS2 is 6.5 months old and was an ok sleeper up until the dreaded 4 month sleep regression. We have never recovered from it and things are slowly getting worse. He is breast fed but will accept the occasional bottle of formula, he’s had about 2 small bottles per week since he was 3 months old but a bottle before bed makes no difference at all to his sleep. He goes down to bed around 7:30pm, will sleep until about 11pm and is up hourly through the night. He is then up for the day at 5:30am (used to sleep until 7am at least but it’s creeping earlier as time goes on). He will only be breastfed back to sleep every time. I have tried alternative methods - shushing, patting, rocking and DH will also try the same but he will not settle back off to sleep until he is fed. But he literally has a few sucks and is off to sleep, I don’t even think he’s hungry. He will only nap for 30 mins at a time in the day so I can’t catch up on any sleep when he naps. This is regardless of whether it’s in his crib, pushchair or the car. He wakes up at 30 mins literally on the dot. I have tried all the methods I’ve read about online to extend them but nothing works. He will nap for 2 hours if it’s a contact nap so I’m happy to do this but it’s impossible when I’m also looking after my 4 year old DS too.

I feel like the poor naps might be linked to the poor night sleep but I just can’t get him to link sleep cycles. He can “self settle” by me putting him in his crib with his dummy in and white noise on and he goes to sleep on his own, but just won’t stay asleep. I thought that once they learnt to self settle they should link the sleep cycles but he can’t. I’ve tried co sleeping and he still wakes just as much. Things have got progressively worse and now he will only sleep if he is being physically held from 4am onwards. So either me or DH have to be awake from that time, we’ve been taking it in turns.

I can’t go on like this. What do I do? Would sleep training even help if he already knows how to fall asleep independently? I feel broken. I’m so snappy with my 4 year old and he doesn’t deserve it, I feel like a shit mum and something needs to change. DH works away a lot in the week but helps when he can. DS doesn’t have signs of any allergies or reflux. Tongue tie was released when he was 9 weeks old and it hasn’t reattached. He is actually a really chilled happy baby. He just doesn’t sleep. Help

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elm26 · 22/03/2023 20:34

So sorry you are suffering with sleep deprivation, it's the worst.

Have you tried a dummy?

But to answer your question, if he's not hungry or in pain, sleep train.

elm26 · 22/03/2023 20:34

Sorry I've just seen you put that he has a dummy.

girlmummy25 · 22/03/2023 21:54

@Moonshine160 that sounds really tough.
I have a nearly 4 year old and a 5 month old so I kind of know where your coming from.
Agree that a lot of info makes out that self settling will solve all sleep problems but it really doesnt. My DD could self settle and used to have split nights where she was awake for 2 hours before going back to sleep.
Some accounts I follow on insta for some tips are:
Just Chill Mama
Blissful baby expert

Sorry I cant help much more as my DS still wakes twice for a feed and around one or twice for a re-settle! So im in the thick of it here too

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BabyB2022 · 23/03/2023 03:25

Agree with the PP on just chill mamma, her courses are great.
I know sleep training can be controversial but I was really struggling with my mental health due to the sleep deprivation when my daughter was the same age due to hourly wakes. Sleep training was the best thing we ever did, it wasn't as bad as we expected and she's been a fab sleeper ever since. She was also a much happier baby once she was sleeping well (and we much happier parents).

UpToMyElbowsInDiapers · 23/03/2023 03:35

I sleep trained all three of mine at a similar age. I psyched myself up for something really traumatizing, but it actually wasn’t bad at all. 3 nights, and done. We used the Ferber method, so we would always go in to reassure the baby, we just wouldn’t feed them. Our whole family felt better after sleep training, baby and toddler(s) included.

HandScreen · 23/03/2023 05:25

Sleep training is brill, your life will be better within 1-2 weeks!

Moonshine160 · 23/03/2023 08:00

Thanks everyone. I do probably think he still needs one feed during the night, he was having one good feed at 3 months then straight back down without a problem. Can I still sleep train and do one night feed or do I need to wait until I think he doesn’t need feeding anymore?! He certainly doesn’t need one hourly and doesn’t take any milk anyway he just seems to be latched on for comfort.

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Crimblecrumble1990 · 23/03/2023 08:13

In the exact same boat but about a month behind you.

Had got down to 1 or 2 wake ups a night then it all went wrong at the 4 month sleep regression and weeks later we are still at 1 or 2 hourly waking. She also rejects any other form of comfort (cuddles / dummy / rocking day or night ) apart from boob. She's now eating so much at night she hardly needs to eat in the day!

I know I need to break it so she has a night or 2 not feeding at night so she relearns to sleep longer at night and eat more in the day but I don't even know if it would work so feeling awful about potentially putting everyone through that for nothing.

A bit stumped where to start since she rejects any other type of comfort - our only option is her screaming herself to sleep which is obviously horrible. And I say that as someone who is not adverse to a bit of crying - she actually sleeps ok in the day because I am comfortable to let her cry for 10 mins if I need to if she wakes up early after 30 mins sleep cycle finishes and she does usually manage to get herself back off to sleep.

Is your baby in their own room yet?

Sorry if that was a bit garbled - sleep deprived!

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