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I am not his child, I'm his partner

24 replies

Iyamk8able · 06/02/2023 15:48

My partner has been increasingly critical of my parenting and does this with our children present each time. When we are on our own and I challenge what he's done he literally ignores me, will walk off or change the subject.

He started a WFH job about a year ago and I feel like every conversation I have with our children (under 4) is being observed and then he jumps in to save them from me.

An example; our children were hungry so I was making them food whilst they were playing in the play area. They got into a squabble and I had something hot I was trying to sort and raised my voice over the bubbling food and tearful screaming children.

Suddenly my partner bursts through the door "what is going on?!" And I was busy draining hot food assuming he was talking to the children. "I'm speaking to you, why are you shouting at them?!" This is in the middle of screaming children by this time and he picks them up and starts asking them if they're okay and would they like to play upstairs etc.

Food is ready and I go and get our children and he is blanking me. I bring the children downstairs who are crying for daddy and put them in their seats explaining dinner is ready, we can see daddy in a few minutes and with that he's snatched the youngest out of my arms and rolling his eyes saying "FFS, give them here and go and sit down!" Meaning I go and sit at the table and feed the eldest. All is fine with the plans but not the tone or the fact he assumes I couldn't have done seating two children at the table without him.

Another example is me getting them ready to leave the house and getting their teeth done. He appears out of no where and tells me not to speak to our children like that. I have no clue what he's on about. I've got all the children dressed, one removing their clothes again because they don't want the green socks on anymore and the other trying to squit the toothpaste over the walls whilst I'm trying to set up a brushing timer app and he's decided that I'm too loud, and says he can hear what colour socks our children have on from downstairs. "I've got this, you can go now." Was my reply and he says how rude I am and tells me to F off before storming off to the office downstairs.

When the kids were in bed I explain how unhelpful it is and how we seem so divided which will mean our children will feel they have to pick sides. It's important to back each other up and instead of coming in like some sort of super hero to save our children from their evil mother needing them dressed before leaving the house, he could just ask how he can help.

His reply was "in my opinion". And put his headphones on and turned his back to me.

I don't remember him being as bad as this before he started this job but it wasn't perfect. If I suggest we go anywhere as a family I get "no, no we're not doing that." If I ask why he says "because I said so. I'm sure you could play with the children here at home" I'm paying for the trip - he just has to participate!? But the tone and the suggestion that it's his decision only is getting harder and harder to challenge.

Is anyone else in a similar situation? Is there anything else I could do? Our children are watching and sooner or later they're not going to do what I say, they'll just do what my partner does because that's all they know.

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Happycow · 06/02/2023 16:07

I haven't been in that situation - but given how obvious it is, and in front of the children who will pick up on it and think thats an acceptableway to speak to people. .. i would give him a chance to listen and find a way forward together but if that didnt happen i would NOT have my children geow up in that environment.

Aquamarine1029 · 06/02/2023 16:11

This relationship needs to end. He is a horrible bully.

ChaToilLeam · 06/02/2023 16:13

He’s absolutely undermining you in front of the children.

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WhatNoRaisins · 06/02/2023 16:17

If he's not even willing to attempt a civil conversation I'm not sure how you could resolve it

AllOfThemWitches · 06/02/2023 16:21

Sounds as though he doesn't like you tbh.

KnitFastDieWarm · 06/02/2023 16:24

I left my exH over (in part) this issue. He’s an attentive and caring father, but the flip side of that was me being treated like a barely-trusted, irritating babysitter rather than a fellow adult and coparent. He was impossible to live with as a partner. The constant huffing, eye rolls, nitpicking, and barely concealed annoyance made it abundantly clear that he was unable to respect me as an adult and a partner. Left just over a year ago and have never been happier, and DC don’t have to grow up watching their father undermining and patronising their mother.

You don’t have to stand for this OP. It’s not ok.

Coyoacan · 06/02/2023 16:28

That sounds like an impossible situation, OP. If he's not willing to talk about it, I don't think there is much of a future for your marriage.

Theunamedcat · 06/02/2023 16:29

I wouod have handed to food over to him in his fucking office closed the door and left him too it

TheFretfulPorpentine · 06/02/2023 16:29

Maybe you should go away for a week and leave him in sole charge of the children.

Reclining · 06/02/2023 16:29

My jaw dropped reading this - there are a lot of awful partners described on mumsnet but this is hideous.

pinkyredrose · 06/02/2023 16:35

He thinks he's your boss. You can't even talk to him about it. I'd seriously consider separating and i don't say that lightly.

Slobbet · 06/02/2023 16:37

I only would shout in an emergency and consider day to day shouting as pointless and out of control behaviour which will spiral out of control once the kid hits teens.. It’s easy to be boundaried without shouting. In your shoes I’d gage wether you are or are not shouting.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/02/2023 16:40

I think the phrase “If you think you are such a fucking perfect parent, dh, you can do it all. I quit!” might be useful here - leave Mr Perfect to do all the grunt work for a day or two and see if he is so gobby afterwards.

CleaningOutMyCloset · 06/02/2023 16:41

He's using the children to bully you. 'Who made him boss' springs to mind.

He either needs to work with you to resolve this situation, if he won't, then in your shoes op, I'd be making plans to leave.

007DoubleOSeven · 06/02/2023 16:43

I don't think this something that can be changed tbh I'd leave the nasty arse.

FlowerArranger · 06/02/2023 16:43

You have to nip this in the bud. He is undermining you. Before long, your children will no longer respect you or heed what you say.

Your options are to calmly discuss parenting strategies with him - if he will listen. Next step: joint counselling with a parenting expert - if he will agree to go and work on HIS skills, as opposed to just criticising yours.

After that, I cannot see any option other than LTB. Indeed I fear it will probably come to that.

MarthaJonesPhone · 06/02/2023 16:54

You need to leave him.

Iyamk8able · 06/02/2023 17:44

barely-trusted, irritating babysitter

@KnitFastDieWarm

I think this point has it the nail on the head.

I have said to him over the past year that I'm not the hired help and I'm more than capable of parenting our children even before he worked from home.

I think the amount of time we're spending in the house as a family as he works from home has had me doubting myself and thinking it's just because we're all on top of each other in the colder winter days of not going out as much.

Thank you all for your comments so far.

I'll attempt the parenting strategies initially and see where we go from there.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 06/02/2023 17:50

I think a relationship can stand differences in parenting. I don't think they can stand a total lack of respect and a presence of contempt.

You can try with him, I think you will fail.

Plan for divorce.

Riri24 · 06/02/2023 17:55

Was he like this before the DC? It sounds like he has a fundamental lack of respect for you. Maybe ask him if he would ever speak to another adult like that- a freind, a colleague, even an employee?! I doubt it.
I would try one more time to have a serious conversation about this and how it impacts on you. If he really can't accept his mistakes and try and change then I really would consider leaving. He is treating you with contempt and you deserve so much more than this.

Iyamk8able · 06/02/2023 18:34

@Riri24 no, I don't think he did.

We argued here and then but what couple doesn't? I don't remember conversations being shut down like he does when resolving things before children.

I also don't remember him being like this when our kids were first born. He would be more of a team player but once our children were perhaps crawling I started feeling a little pressure, nothing like it's been over the last year but there was a slow incline of challenging my way of doing things such as meal choices etc. I just saw it as a caring/supportive dad but its all got me asking questions now.

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Sleepless1096 · 06/02/2023 18:58

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/02/2023 16:40

I think the phrase “If you think you are such a fucking perfect parent, dh, you can do it all. I quit!” might be useful here - leave Mr Perfect to do all the grunt work for a day or two and see if he is so gobby afterwards.

This. The next time he speaks to you like this, walk out and let him do it.

And you don't need his permission to take the kids out.

piedbeauty · 06/02/2023 19:06

My God. I read a lot of bad things on MN but your post really shocked me. He treats you with absolute contempt.

I'd be roaring 'fuck off' at him and divorcing him.

He sounds intolerable. What an absolute wanker.

VivaVivaa · 06/02/2023 19:53

Do you work OP or are you home full time with the DC? I’d get back to work ASAP if you aren’t, assuming by ‘partner’ you aren’t married. He sounds absolutely atrocious, your relationship is none existent and I’d be planning for an exit.

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