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Catdogmouse1 · 15/01/2023 23:27

Anyone have a toddler who still wakens up? Im at the end of my rope. Nearly 3 years of crap sleep intermixed with the odd good night. Im so fed up of running on empty and having to get up for work every day when ive had 3 or 4 hours broken sleep. Im pregnant now too, y i thought that was a good idea with how crappy sleep is. Ive tried everything but nothing works. Shes howling away here atm and will most likely be up for 3/ 4 hours now. I just cant face 3 hours of cajolong and settling when all my sisters gleefully tell me their kids slept through from 10ish weeks.

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Wavescrashingonthebeach · 15/01/2023 23:31

Yes my son has always been an awful sleeper. He's nearly 2. And I'm here on fucking Mumsnet instead of optimising my sleep chances why do I do it to myself hahahaha. Its mad all day I'm shattered and just want to go to bed and then as soon as he's asleep I just want to look at shite on my phone (I'm not referring to your post as shite btw!)
Yes it drives me mad hearing people boast about it or about how good their partner was with doing shifts. I nearly lost the plot with the sleep deprivation.

Hallcupboard · 15/01/2023 23:40

Yup. Haven't slept for 4 years. Even went to the gp but they didn't want to know. Its rubbish and I've tried everything bar leaving him to cry (which I won't do)

Catdogmouse1 · 15/01/2023 23:56

Gps are flipping no help!! Currently trying 2 bring her out of a tantrum. We spent all day and weekemd 4 that matter out and about being busy, shes only been down 3ish hours and is up already. Im so tired and on the verge of tears all the time and hardly anybody understands how bad it feels. Even my husband doesnt really understand- hes doesnt need lots of sleep either. I love her 2 pieces but the nights r total torture

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Wavescrashingonthebeach · 16/01/2023 00:11

I really sympathise. I'm sure you've tried everything and this is obvious but have you tried no screen time and no sugary treats. Especially chocolate as it has caffeine in.

My son definitely sleeps better when I limit them.

Does your child talk? Just with you saying nearly 3 have they said why they're waking up like bad dreams or pains or anything ?

Catdogmouse1 · 16/01/2023 00:17

Yeah we tried the treats and screen time limit but doesnt seem 2 make an impact. She chatters away and sometimes has bad dreams but those wake ups r very different, these split night ones just seem 2 b because she has recharged on 3 hours sleep and is ready 2 go again

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Wavescrashingonthebeach · 16/01/2023 00:24

Oh god that does sound hard really hope it gets better soon. One day at a time x

MKD1 · 16/01/2023 00:37

I have it the same with my 3 year old (almost 4) although he's managed to improve from getting up every 2 hours to maybe 3 in the last few months. What helps him sleep better is if one of us sleeps with him or he climbs into our bed. Nothing else has worked. I've tried sleep training and all that malarkey.! I have a 7 year old who is the text book sleeper. But this little monster is on another level.

Catdogmouse1 · 16/01/2023 06:46

I wish she would sleep with one of us beside her, i wouldnt mind that, but she thinks its playtime if we r beside her and will climb over us or rub and rub at r hands with her wee talons

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Hallcupboard · 16/01/2023 06:47

Split nights are my big issue - midnight -4am is his classic. He just doesn't seem to need much sleep. When I ask him what woke him up or why he's awake he says he doesn't know how to sleep. He's not up and about going wild, he lays in bed tossing and turning and fidgeting our chatting to himself. I think he just has low sleep needs - he stopped napping at all at 18 months and has been like this since he was born.

He has a double bed, sleep trainer clock, I go in to sleep in his room, no screen time for 1.5 hours before bed, good bedtime routine etc etc

I walk around foggy and exhausted while he is full of beans.

Hallcupboard · 16/01/2023 06:48

And arggggghhhh the rubbing at us with hands and feet!!!

Catdogmouse1 · 16/01/2023 07:04

It sucks, but its reassuring to know other toddlers have the same issue and not just us. Im looking forward to teenage years payback and getting up 2 hoover at the crack if dawn when shes probably keeled out lol ( only slightly joking)

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NicJZ · 16/01/2023 10:50

Yep.....my life is no sleep.
Our DS is 4 and half now and STILL wakes in the night however only solution that has half fixed him is following

  1. Feed him dinner no later than 5pm and make sure he has water by his bedside...sleeping on a full tummy may work for some parents but not our son did the opposite.
  2. Never allow pudding if it's past 5:30pm...the sugar in his system clearly wake him up....if he's been to mother in laws I know he will be up half the night as she pumps him with sugar despite me saying no!
  3. White noise!!! It work's seriously, I have it on all the time. Without it it's a lot worse.
  4. Kids Magnesium supplements. This was a game changer
  5. No iPad or screen time after 6:30pm
  6. Bath at 6pm no later
  7. This one is annoying but buying a bed with a trundle bed below. It's always made and yes one of us sleeps on it most night (mainly partner) as if DS does wake, he sees someone there and goes back to sleep rather than getting up and kicking off. This is where we are at now.

We have a 15month old now as well as son and it's only harder as she doesn't sleep either however pick your battles, if you want sleep then get it wherever you can, if it means on her bedroom floor do it. My sister is one of those annoying parents who claimed her daughter was sleeping all night long but for rest of us no sleepers I'm told it gets easier.....I'm practicing a good bedtime routine with our second and she goes down like a dream but night waking yep, she's the same as son and I should remember how much he has improved massively with the 7 steps but as long as I'm not getting 6hrs sleep a night I won't be happy so hang in there. I feel your pain.

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