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Help with 7 month old sleep issues

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AbcXyz123456 · 11/01/2023 20:32

Sorry for the long post but we have a couple of issues with my 7 month old's sleep schedule. By no means is he a terrible sleeper so I'm not complaining. Can anyone share their schedule that worked for 7 month old?

First problem - it can take him 40+ minutes to get himself off to sleep at night. He's not crying and is just babbling/ moving round his cot. He eventually falls asleep independently without crying. For naps he's normally asleep within 15 mins.

Second problem - fairly frequently he's waking up early (5 to 5.30am). We try and leave him in his cot as long as possible. He's usually just babbling / fussing (and not crying) for at least half an hour or so so we just ignore him until he starts crying. This morning I just sat with him calmly in his dark room from 6am to 6.30am so that he doesn't think we want to start the day early!

A couple of points for context- he's generally fairly inconsistent. Night sleep and nap length can vary from day to day which is very different to my older son who was like clockwork. He's generally only having two naps now. They can vary in length from 45 mins to 2 hours. Because of this variation we don't have a set bed time. We generally put him down anywhere between 7 and 8 depending on when he wakes from last nap.

I recently very gently sleep trained him (letting him cry only 3 mins and then comforting before putting back down). It was great and after 3 days he was going down at bedtime and for naps without any crying. Since the training he's also not woken up during the night - he was previously waking up once or twice, and out of habit we were giving him milk. Once we started training we did not give him milk and he settled back to sleep and as I say, last couple of days hasn't woken up at all during night.

Any advice to fix the early wakings and length of time it takes for him to fall asleep would be welcome!

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Junebug22 · 11/01/2023 20:54

My baby is 6 and a half months. He’s an early riser (5.30am) but consistently goes to sleep at 6.30pm and either sleeps through now or wakes once at 4am and quickly goes back down. During the day he has 2.5 - 3 hours of “wake time” and then I’ll encourage him to nap. If he’s napping in his cot then I put a black out blind up, put him into his sleepbag, give him his dummy and rock him until he drifts -then I put him in the cot and pat his chest until he settles. If he’s napping on the move then it’s either dummy and pram or car ride.

I try to make sure he’s getting “exercise” in his wake windows eg. Lots of floor/playmat, time in his Jumperoo, practicing sitting up and tummy time, a baby class.

I’m no expert and we’ve had a brutal time with early wakes (2 months of 4am/4.30/5/5.30 wakes) but one thing he’s always been “good at” is settling for bed. I do think a routine here helps. So for a 6.30pm bedtime, I usually:
-make sure he doesn’t nap beyond 4pm (if he’s been awake more than 3 hours at that point though, then I’ll let him do a 10 min power nap to see him through but no longer. You risk them not being ready for bed otherwise).
-about 5.30pm I’ll offer him a bottle. He might only take 1 oz but that’s fine. He will usually polish off a 9 oz bottle right before sleep but other babies I know like to take that over an hour.
-bath about 5.45pm, out of bath about 6pm and into sleepsuit
-put in sleepbag and turn his light off (use lamp light from opposite bedroom so I can see but it’s nice and dim/dark for baby)
-offer him bottle, wind him, usually sing “row row the boat” a couple of times while he feeds
-when he’s finished with his bottle and winded, I give him his dummy, rock him a little and then place him in the cot. I’ll pat his chest and then let him settle -he’s normally out like a light within a few minutes. If he spits his dummy out twice then I know he’s actually wanting more milk, so I’ll take him back out and offer the bottle again, then dummy and back into cot.

He doesn’t nap bang on the same time every day as nap length varies. So I usually try and work it so that his last nap is before or finishing at 4pm. I’ve also read that at his age the max daytime sleep is 2 and a half hours as otherwise you risk them being under tired.

Ive definitely found that following the wake windows and doing a bedtime routine has been a big help. A lot of things I’ve read advise against “feeding to sleep” (not sure if maybe that’s referring to just breastfeeding) but it works for us. He sleeps 6.30pm-4am or 5.50am most nights. Prior to that he was consistently sleeping 6.30pm-3am, so he can obviously resettle himself without a bottle.

hope that maybe helps a little! Hang in there, sleep is such a minefield :-(

AbcXyz123456 · 11/01/2023 21:50

Thank you Junebug that is helpful. I think what I might be getting wrong is putting him to bed too late and potentially letting him get too much daytime sleep. I do follow a similar routine to you and also feed just before sleep and haven't had an issue with that.
As you say, it is such a minefield! My older son was so much easier. 8pm to 8am from 12 weeks old and never looked back. Baby 2 keeps us on our toes but it could be worse!

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Junebug22 · 12/01/2023 06:50

Oh gosh baby 1 sounds like a dream!! It’s so random with sleep isn’t it? Ours has only just been “sleeping through” (6.30pm-5.30am) since Christmas Eve -so at 5 and a half months! I naively thought he’d be sleeping through by 3 months as so many people told me their babies were by that stage! I’ve now given up on the magical 12 hours and accepted that we have an 11 hour child 😂Would be nice if he’d do 6.30pm-6am but really can’t complain when he’s doing an 11 hour stretch. We never thought we’d get here.

Bedtime times are tricky. We’ve tried pushing him out to 7pm/7.15pm but it doesn’t buy us any additional time in the morning, and just makes him grouchy, so it seems pointless. His natural bedtime appears to be 6.30pm -though I’m sure that’ll change as he gets a bit older.

But yeah, maybe try cutting his naps down during the day and putting him to bed before he gets over tired. Fingers crossed!

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thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 12/01/2023 06:56

You can't fix them. Both are perfectly normal for his age. Leave him be. Realise how good you have it because it won't last so make the most of it !!

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