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1 year old vaccines

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mumandons · 04/01/2023 08:56

My daughter is due her 1 year old vaccines soon and i am debating if to let her have the MMR vaccine as i haven't heard great things about it and have had family member react to the MMR vaccine.

Please no nasty comments but wanted to see how many other children have had it done and if they had any reactions.

Thank you

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nicknamehelp · 04/01/2023 13:47

A reaction to a jab is nothing compared to the reactions if got mumps, measles or rubella. I've been on kids wards with seriously ill children as got these diseases due to not being jabed. Not only very ill at the time but probably have life lasting issues.

Lara151 · 04/01/2023 13:49

bellswithwhistles · 04/01/2023 13:35

No MMR here but now they'er older I am debating it.

Personally feel 1 yr old is far too young to have that much put into them - bearing in mind it's exactly the same amount whether the child is a baby or a 10 stone teenager. Even the amount of calpol you can safely take depends on age/weight so to me, it makes no sense that it's the same syringe for everyone.

However, that's mainly because my brother was damaged (NHS acknowledged before anyone jumps on) by the MMR vaccine. Caused brain damage and lasting learning difficulties. There is always a risk - however small - with any vaccine.

I don't believe the vaccine per se is too dangerous - more that there's too much in one to be given. They really should have left them as 3 separate vaccines that you could space out.

They get two doses. They don't get the whole dosage at one year old.

KidsDr · 04/01/2023 13:58

I appreciate this decision can feel really frightening and you want to do what is best for your little one.

I am a paediatric registrar and have worked in hospitals treating children and babies for around 5 years.

I have met 2 x families whose children contracted measles as they were not vaccinated. Thankfully the children did recover but were really very ill and needed to stay in hospital for several days and have lots of unpleasant investigations and treatment (because of how ill they were, though measles is a virus they needed also to be treated for possible bacterial infection so lots of needles, blood tests, strong antibiotics, fluids and so on). Those parents immediately changed their minds and were very anxious about getting their children fully vaccinated after the experience.

Unfortunately it was now too late to prevent the measles infection. Measles damages the immune system causing it to forget pathogens the child was already exposed to, so that children who are infected with measles will face years of additional illness. There is also the terrifying but thankfully very rare phenomenon of SSPE.

Parents who choose not to vaccinate are usually very anxious about their child's health and the "what ifs" (which is a big part of the fear of vaccination) so living with the horrible possibility of long term effects which unfortunately cannot be prevented following measles infection is very difficult. I felt really sorry for these parents who did want best for their children but had made a decision they really regretted.

You cannot now rely on herd immunity to protect your child from measles, there are cases of measles in unimmunised children in the UK every year. Very sadly a small number of these children die. There is nothing we can do to treat severe measles other than supportive treatment and covering co-infection with bacteria. We are powerless to prevent measles from severely damaging a child's brain if that is the course it takes.

In contrast to this nearly every child I encounter professionally has had the MMR vaccination with only the expected short term side effects. I cannot recall a single instance of seeing a child in hospital following complications of the MMR vaccination, though the vaccinated children hugely outnumber the unvaccinated. My own two children received the MMR vaccination with no hesitation on my part. I would recommend the MMR vaccination.

Re receiving 3 or more vaccinations at once there is plenty of evidence that this is safe and that it reduces side effects for children vs having the expected side effects from multiple separate immunisations. Vaccinations are not like a typical drug with a dose dependant effect. They involve giving a small part of the infectious organism, inactivated or weakened so that it cannot cause infection, but just enough for the immune system to recognise it and develop a response that will protect the person from the full organism if they encounter it later on. Any reaction the immune system produces to the vaccination (aside from clear cases of allergy to a vaccine precipitant) is a reaction that could happen following infection itself, as the infectious organisms themselves contain the same immune system triggering proteins as the vaccine (that's how vaccines work) but also many additional proteins. You are not avoiding the risk of your child becoming unwell by a reaction of their immune system, by avoiding vaccination. As they are still vulnerable to the exact same reactions following exposure to the infectious organism (and much more).

The way that vaccines work is so different from the way that dose dependant medicines work (eg something that interacts with a receptor and so needs to be proportioned to the number of receptors a person has) that a comparison around dosing doesn't make sense.

I do hope this helps.

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Sirzy · 04/01/2023 14:15

Fantastic post kids Dr

7Worfs · 04/01/2023 14:20

OP, there’s statistics available, I think close to 90% of 1yo children get the MMR in the UK.
Severe allergic reactions are extremely rare, and they would happen within 5-10mins so the nurse would act accordingly.
Fever is fairly common; in very rare circumstances it can lead to febrile seizures.

The only reason not to get the MMR is if you are immunocompromised.

Flapjackquack · 04/01/2023 14:22

That is a fantastic post @KidsDr.

My own child had the MMR, side effects were grisly and a slight temp for 2 days. Currently charging around downstairs as a happy and healthy 2 yr old. I had it, my husband had it all my friends that I have spoken to about it had it as did their children. All fine.

Maybe Rishi Sunak is onto something with maths up to 18, perhaps they could focus on probabilities and percentages.

Alliolly · 04/01/2023 14:25

No reaction whatsoever, my kids have had all vaccines from the NHS calendar + chicken pox done privately. I only remember them having high temp after the 8w jabs

Lnaomiw · 25/09/2023 10:58

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Cookerhood · 25/09/2023 11:08

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Unfortunately the timing of the vaccines coincides with the signs of autism emerging. Read the post from the paediatric doctor above.
The link between autism & the MMR has been thoroughly disproved.
These threads are dangerous & emerge with tedious frequency.

YukoandHiro · 25/09/2023 11:08

My daughter had an allergic reaction to first MMR (she is a multiple allergy kid). She had her second dose delivered in hospital.

It's really really important not to miss this one. The measles rate is high and climbing.
Don't let your child be the one who risks blindness and brain damage because of a tiny, tiny managed risk.

If by reaction you mean a fever, that's just the jab working. They all get that! It's a sign the immune system is building antibodies.

Sirzy · 25/09/2023 11:08

Vaccines don’t cause autism.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2023 11:11

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Clymene · 25/09/2023 11:14

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I'm reporting your post because it's scaremongering bullshit and it doesn't belong on a parenting site.

Lnaomiw · 25/09/2023 11:37

Scare mongering? Oh my goodness it is literally my truth. Thank you for being absolutely vile.

SnapdragonToadflax · 25/09/2023 11:44

There has been SO MUCH research into whether vaccines cause autism. They do not. This is scientific fact.

Clymene · 25/09/2023 11:58

Lnaomiw · 25/09/2023 11:37

Scare mongering? Oh my goodness it is literally my truth. Thank you for being absolutely vile.

You're a liar.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2023 12:01

Why on earth did you delete my post, MNHQ?
It said that the MMR does not cause autism, which is has been proven it does not.

reinstate it, please.

Homeeducationproblems · 25/09/2023 12:01

We had similar worries but I was also really worried about measles. We ended up splitting the vaccines so had the mmr separately 2 weeks later. It can seem overwhelming the amount of information and misinformation out there - what you need to focus on is the risk from a vaccine is less than the risk from the illnesses themselves- neither is without risk but we have to choose the best option . Good luck Flowers

Clymene · 25/09/2023 12:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2023 12:01

Why on earth did you delete my post, MNHQ?
It said that the MMR does not cause autism, which is has been proven it does not.

reinstate it, please.

Because it quoted the bullshit post I'm guessing?

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2023 12:03

Oh, ok, thanks Clymene . Hadn’t occurred to me.

So sick of these bullshit claims.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2023 12:04

Lnaomiw · Today 11:37

Scare mongering? Oh my goodness it is literally my truth. Thank you for being absolutely vile.”

No, it isn’t t truth. You’re deluded.

wishIwasonholiday10 · 25/09/2023 12:07

bellswithwhistles · 04/01/2023 13:35

No MMR here but now they'er older I am debating it.

Personally feel 1 yr old is far too young to have that much put into them - bearing in mind it's exactly the same amount whether the child is a baby or a 10 stone teenager. Even the amount of calpol you can safely take depends on age/weight so to me, it makes no sense that it's the same syringe for everyone.

However, that's mainly because my brother was damaged (NHS acknowledged before anyone jumps on) by the MMR vaccine. Caused brain damage and lasting learning difficulties. There is always a risk - however small - with any vaccine.

I don't believe the vaccine per se is too dangerous - more that there's too much in one to be given. They really should have left them as 3 separate vaccines that you could space out.

Would you prefer your one year old to catch one of the diseases the vaccine protects against? Most one year olds are either at nursery or regularly attending toddler groups and soft play etc so being exposed to lots of germs. I was very happy to get mine protected at this age and also got her the chicken pox vax as soon as I could.

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