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Autism? Anxiety? 10 month no eye contact

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Curiousmumma232 · 04/01/2023 05:51

Hi, I hope I don’t offend anyone with this post but hoping for some advice on whether it is my anxiety or if someone has been in a similar position and had a positive outcome.
my son is 10months 1week and is super active but I have a few concerns and everywhere I look it leads to autism. My nephew is autistic and I’m really anxious we are heading down the same path.
he can:
Crawl, stand and is super close to walking & NEVER sits still
responds to name 50% of the time
can clap, wave and starting to point but these are all at random times and are constant so he doesn’t really do any of it when you tell him to or because he wants something (ie. if drinking his bottle he will start to wave or clap his hands)
Will reached to be picked up
smiles at everyone but if I approach him he gives me nothing
recongises when his dad comes home from work and get extremely excited and same with his grandma
flaps a fair bit when excited
doesnt play with toys appropriately and will just smash them together or throw them
does imitate anything I do
if he is playing he will sometimes look back to see if I’m looking but doesn’t bring toys or anything to me
If I say come here and have my arms out he will literally crawl straight past me like I’m not there
babbles constantly
tenses the body often

The concern I have is he never makes up close eye contact no matter what I try! If I hold him or anyone holds he won’t look at me or then. If I hold toys above my head he will look at the toy and never look at me. If he is eating or from a distance he will look at me (concerned he isn’t looking at my eyes). Even if I am feeding him he will look away.
He also doesn’t really seem that interested in me if I leave the room or anything he’ll happily play on his own & gets more excited seeing other people.
Also doesn’t seem interested in other kids!

can someone tell me if I have something to worry about or if someone has had similar experience and what the outcome was?

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Curiousmumma232 · 04/01/2023 05:55

That was suppose to say doesn’t imitate

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LeafHunter · 04/01/2023 06:06

have you taken him to the opticians for a check? I wouldn’t have concerns, but would speak to health visitor if I did as they can observe in a way that strangers on the internet can’t.

autienotnaughty · 04/01/2023 06:29

I recognised some signs of autism in my son from about this age -
No eye contact
Rarely laughed was either screaming or expressionless
No babbling/speech at all
Little interest in toys except sometimes cause and affect
Screamed 70/80% of the day

I didn't overly worry but when he got to around 18 months I contacted hv who came out and assessed and process started from there. What you have described does not sound concerning on its own for asd although it is hard to know for sure at that age. I'd speak to hv say you have noticed lack of eye contact and see what they say. Do you have any concerns about sight? How's baby's temperament? Bear in mind if there was a neuro diversity such as asd, diagnosis (unless there's other factors such as developmental delays) is extremely unlikely under 2 . But personally I wouldn't worry yet if eye contact is the only factor but still worth checking out with hv.

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Mamma367 · 04/01/2023 06:34

Hi OP. I understand what you are saying! Here is my experience: I first noticed mine was avoiding close eye contact around 6m, but he was otherwise developing normally.

He was always very flappy and hyperactive and would run in circles for ages. Around 2yo the differences between him and other kids started to become more obvious - he wasn't listening to me at all. He didn't play toys in the way others did. He flipped through offers of books at great speed but had no interest in me reading to him. He was obsessed with pouring sand and water. He was falling behind his communication milestones too, but his dad and the HV dismissed my concerns.

At 2.5y, he seemed to regress. I would call him and he wouldn't respond at all - that really triggered the worries in me. I asked on Mumsnet and everyone said autism. He started OT and ST and he made progress, though hard to say if it was the therapy or just him growing up. Funnily enough, he started making lots of eye contact again during lockdown. I think lots of time with him at home helped. Eye contact is not an issue now.

Now at 5y, he's not been assessed but there's no question he's delayed and is probably autistic with sensory processing disorder. The SPD was blocking him from learning, with therapy now he is in a preschool and learning lots. I am often surprised that things I was saying 2-3y ago have suddenly popped into his vocabulary. He was listening back then after all. His teachers are confident that in time he might manage in mainstream school. I think I'm most concerned about his social skills - he's longing to play with other kids but doesn't know how. Lots of things are hard. He can get very frustrated and physical. He's otherwise pretty happy.

I think for you, the lack of interest in other kids is not unusual at that age, but I can understand why you are concerned. It's too early for any kind of assessment, so I would just advocate trying lots of different toys and ways of playing to see see what engages him, and follow his interest. Don't worry that he's not playing with toys in the way you expect them too, just make a note so you can keep track of his development. The post you made is great - save it.

Also, maybe look at Oxford Baby Lab. They are a centre that is doing research into babies and young kids and communication. I remember reading a study about how they are teaching parents strategies with potentially autistic kids, younger than the age they are normally assessed, that may help address some of the difficulties. I think they teach parents how to interact effectively with them. Too early to know if there is any long-term benefit, but I wish I could have got my DS involved in the study when he was 1yo.

It's also too early to look at Hanen books but look up More than Words which is about strategies on effectively communicating with your kid through play. If you continue to have concerns, it can be helpful from 1.5-2y and older - it's just a really expensive book.

Hugs - I know it's hard! Many will say it's too early and that these things are normal. So I would work on looking at ways to keep your child engaged with you and going with his interests. And you can start voicing your concerns with your HV or GP and what support there is down the line.

boboshmobo · 04/01/2023 06:37

CHeck their eyesight and Google delayed visual maturation .

It's not always autism , there are a myriad of other things it could be or nothing .

Mamma367 · 06/01/2023 02:07

OP here are some play strategies to try. They are good for any child, but are helpful to encourage more collaborative play with ND kids.

www.facebook.com/100064576130912/posts/pfbid0siDWVGqea1xP4P6fbX4jrGtrLvvH9v8mQ3Uxr9gz3T1cjxoWEc1DV3Rm64b2njNsl/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Melodymama12 · 13/06/2023 13:34

I know this is an old post but I was wondering if you had an update. My son doesn’t make a lot of eye contact and it’s really concerning me. Thanks!

Chzm · 16/05/2024 15:22

Melodymama12 · 13/06/2023 13:34

I know this is an old post but I was wondering if you had an update. My son doesn’t make a lot of eye contact and it’s really concerning me. Thanks!

Hey, do you have an update on your son? I have similar worries

please reply thank you x

Chzm · 16/05/2024 15:24

Curiousmumma232 · 04/01/2023 05:51

Hi, I hope I don’t offend anyone with this post but hoping for some advice on whether it is my anxiety or if someone has been in a similar position and had a positive outcome.
my son is 10months 1week and is super active but I have a few concerns and everywhere I look it leads to autism. My nephew is autistic and I’m really anxious we are heading down the same path.
he can:
Crawl, stand and is super close to walking & NEVER sits still
responds to name 50% of the time
can clap, wave and starting to point but these are all at random times and are constant so he doesn’t really do any of it when you tell him to or because he wants something (ie. if drinking his bottle he will start to wave or clap his hands)
Will reached to be picked up
smiles at everyone but if I approach him he gives me nothing
recongises when his dad comes home from work and get extremely excited and same with his grandma
flaps a fair bit when excited
doesnt play with toys appropriately and will just smash them together or throw them
does imitate anything I do
if he is playing he will sometimes look back to see if I’m looking but doesn’t bring toys or anything to me
If I say come here and have my arms out he will literally crawl straight past me like I’m not there
babbles constantly
tenses the body often

The concern I have is he never makes up close eye contact no matter what I try! If I hold him or anyone holds he won’t look at me or then. If I hold toys above my head he will look at the toy and never look at me. If he is eating or from a distance he will look at me (concerned he isn’t looking at my eyes). Even if I am feeding him he will look away.
He also doesn’t really seem that interested in me if I leave the room or anything he’ll happily play on his own & gets more excited seeing other people.
Also doesn’t seem interested in other kids!

can someone tell me if I have something to worry about or if someone has had similar experience and what the outcome was?

Hey OP

I would really appreciate an update on your baby please? I have a few similar worries and would love to know how your baby is now

thank you- hoping you respond x

Curiousmumma232 · 17/05/2024 07:58

Chzm · 16/05/2024 15:22

Hey, do you have an update on your son? I have similar worries

please reply thank you x

Apologies for delay and I understand how frustrating it is when people don’t come back to confirm how the things turned out.
I can confirm I was suffering severe post partum anxiety and our son now has full conversations, can understand & is thriving. Please enjoy your babies and get the help you require as it’s very hard to get that time back.

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flowerlover1990 · 29/06/2024 19:47

@Curiousmumma232 that's great news. I'm so glad everything turned out ok for you, so your son is very much a neurotypical little boy? I have very similar concerns but I am still suffering from ptsd from the birth which I am getting help for so I may just be overly anxious for no reason.

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