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Weaning before 6 months?

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bunnymum96 · 02/01/2023 22:52

Hi,

My DD is just over 3 months and has had a pretty rough start, with colic, reflux, allergies and pretty much constant wind/crying.
Since day 1 our families have said ‘it’ll be easier once you start weaning/they’re not just having milk’ and really promoting weaning at 3/4 months, like they did with their babies, and ‘it didn’t do any harm’.

The HV said 6 months at the earliest.

So why is the recommended 6 months? Has anyone started before then?

(I’m entirely clueless and have tried to research this. I wouldn’t like to go against NHS guidance so looking for genuine help here)

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MrsK2022 · 02/01/2023 23:19

Hey @bunnymum96, congrats on your little one & sorry to hear they’ve had a rough start.

My little boy was the same & wasn’t gaining weight like he should have been, he was referred to a paediatrician who advised to start weaning him at 4 months. I decided to wait until 6 months (everything settled drastically from around 3 months onwards) however I know others who weaned early under doctors advice.

I think 6 months is recommended as their guts are more developed, it can be a lot for their little bodies at the start. They need to be sitting up and showing other signs of readiness (interested in food etc), I’d also read weaning early can cause stomach problems later in life.

I hope that helps & good luck with whatever you decide. Maybe worth trying to see a paediatrician for your little girl if you can x

Spaghetti201 · 02/01/2023 23:31

I’m a believer in going with what your child is trying to communicate to you. If they are reaching for food and seem hungry, let them eat. Humans have been feeding their young for over 100,000 years, I think we should trust evolution rather than the latest research which seems to change every few years!

yorkshirepudsx · 02/01/2023 23:35

By 6 months a baby's digestive system is developed enough to handle foods other than milk - weaning early has been connected to digestive issues, some not noticeable until adulthood.

My little one had bad reflux & colic, I ended up using comfort milk and gaviscon under the guidance of GP, it helped a lot, and I waited until 6 months to wean him. I had so many people around me saying 'I weaned early and my child's fine' - but I'm glad I waited!
He's now 14 months and has such a good appetite, he will eat anything! :)

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Excited101 · 02/01/2023 23:36

Their little guts just aren’t ready yet and are underdeveloped. It really (really) isn’t a good idea to wean early, always follow the latest advice. If a dr advises differently then of course that’s a different matter.

yorkshirepudsx · 02/01/2023 23:38

I had a different GP and paediatric doctor tell me to try and wean my little one early too, but it didn't sit right with me, I sought advice from a different gp and they helped me sort the issue at hand - colic and reflux.
Plus by 6 months my little one was sitting up by himself and he was really interested in food, I've witnessed friends get really frustrated with babies 3-4 months old for not being interested x

NewMummyJelly · 02/01/2023 23:38

Hi I weaned my son at 5 months with porridge. I thought it would settle him. It didn’t at all. that’s not me saying wait until 6 months, that’s just what happened with us.

I think the advice is ‘around’ six months, when they’re showing signs of readiness… so sitting up in the high chair, holding a spoon perhaps and putting it to their mouth, and showing an interest in the food.

would I wean early again? Yes I’d give it a go and if baby wasn’t ready at 5 months, I’d wait a few days and try again

Redflower2 · 02/01/2023 23:39

It’s 6 months based on baby’s gut development, the development of their mouth/tongue/swallowing abilities, their requirement for nutrition outside of milk. Early weaning can cause problems with a child’s guts later on in life, there’s a risk around aspiration. And also, it’s messy and unnecessary at 3/4 months! They’ll be eating food their whole life, why not give them an extra 2 months to be fully ready and save yourself the faff and mess for a bit longer!

Have a look at the signs of readiness…you don’t have to wait until exactly 6 months but around that time is when most babies show signs of readiness.

Rakszasa · 02/01/2023 23:51

Spaghetti201 · 02/01/2023 23:31

I’m a believer in going with what your child is trying to communicate to you. If they are reaching for food and seem hungry, let them eat. Humans have been feeding their young for over 100,000 years, I think we should trust evolution rather than the latest research which seems to change every few years!

If you wanted to trust evolution, there's no way you'd be giving a 3 month old baby any food, sorry but that's just silly.

OP, recommendations change, as they're based on scientific research, I belive they know more about human's body than they did 15/20/50 years ago, and they keep finding out new things.
People used to belive smoking was beneficial, and I'm sure you've heard before 'I smoked when pregnant and my baby is fine'. Same argument.

MGee123 · 03/01/2023 08:14

Please don't wean before 6 months. There is good evidence it can cause long term gut issues. There is no need, just wait. And frankly, it really isn't had the fun you'd think it might be in most cases - put it off as long as possible!!

LostSleep · 03/01/2023 08:21

I find the information quite funny though. It's not like there is a magic switch that at 6 months suddenly makes them ready. You might find at 6 months that they're not ready and end up weaning later. A friend of mine ended up weaning at 9 months as her DC was sick every time she tried to eat food.

Ours is showing a great interest in food and is nearly 6 months. I'm giving him soft food to feel when we eat. He is not swallowing any of it yet and I'm not going to feed him till past 6 months anyway.

FlounderingFruitcake · 03/01/2023 08:34

The NHS advice isn’t 6 months exactly. It’s around 6 months. So 5 months+ if showing the signs of physical readiness is still perfectly within the guidelines. Still doesn’t mean I’d wean at 4 months though, there’s evidence that it can cause digestive issues in later life so that has be balanced against how severe symptoms are, how likely weaning actually is to help and what other treatments are available. I would probably start with making a GP appointment to discuss the symptoms you’ve mentioned and follow their advice.

bunnymum96 · 03/01/2023 09:56

Thanks everyone, that’s my instinct too as I’m in no rush. We’re in regular contact with GP regarding symptoms and have seen all sorts of professionals. We have our first specialist paediatric gastro appointment this week too. Strange question but does anyone have any links to the research, I fear I may have some battle convincing husband/family it’s worth waiting.

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BertieBotts · 03/01/2023 10:31

NHS guidance says around the middle of the first year, but no earlier than 17 weeks. They also recommend to wait until the baby is showing signs of readiness, which they quote as:

  • Sitting stably, with support if necessary, as this minimises the risk of choking - babies should never be fed solids in a reclined position (as used to be common).
  • Loss of tongue thrust reflex, which is hard to know, but if you give them solids and they push them right out, it's probably too early.
  • Being able to hold items and bring them to their mouth/having interest in putting items in their mouth by themselves. You'll see them doing this with their toys.

This is because we have good evidence that solid foods before 17 weeks is associated with long term digestive problems. The evidence for delaying from 17 to 26 weeks (6 months) is less clear but it is clear that there is no harm in waiting until 6 months, so it is recommended to do this because it eliminates all doubt. You also do not have to go very quickly at 6 months - this is a common myth (start at 4 months and go slowly with rice vs start at 6 months and be on 3 varied meals straight away) - but it's not necessary. You can choose a slow and steady approach whatever age you start, and you can choose a self-feeding based (BLW) approach from any time that the baby can sit up and hold food and get it to their own mouth (IME, from about 5-6 months)

Part of the way the recommendations are worded may be because, as you are finding, in some circles particularly in people who had their babies earlier than the 90s/00s there is a very big push towards early weaning. So if you tell people they can start at 17 weeks what you'll find is this cultural pressure interacts and people start at 12-16 weeks instead, which is quite risky. Aim for 6 months, and even if you get tempted to start early, it will probably be later than 17 weeks and therefore minimises the risk of harm.

The other cultural issue in the UK is that weaning is seen as something that should be progressed on quickly - if you get the various baby weaning guides from the food producers etc you will find that they all suggest progressing from first tastes to 3 meals a day in about 4-6 weeks, and the danger is if you go too quickly too early, you will push milk out of the baby's diet. Breastmilk or formula, according to NHS advice, should make up more than 50% of their calories for the majority of the first year - it's OK if food starts to take over by about 9-12 months, (and equally, it's also fine if your baby is slower and sticks to mostly milk for the full first year) but in the 80s when 3 month weaning was common, it used to be advised to swap to 50%+ food by 6 months. This might be where the idea it's a fast transition comes from. The name doesn't help as it suggests the idea is to swap milk for food - in reality the milk feeds continue, until 12 months if formula feeding (can continue with cow's milk if desired for comfort e.g. a bedtime feed) and into the second year and beyond if you want to for breastfeeding. The NHS is moving towards the term "Complementary feeding" to try and make this a bit clearer - solids are an addition to milk, at least until 12 months, after that they can transition to mostly food, but milk feeds may continue alongside. as long as it suits you both. You may also wish to ask your health visitor whether vitamin drops are required. First infant formula continues to be suitable for the whole 12 months and is more tightly regulated than follow on formula, so you might like to continue with this. If you want to change to follow on formula, you need to wait until the baby is at least 6 months and ideally wait until they are getting a good amount of solid foods, as it's intended to provide a complementary nutritional profile rather than a complete one.

It is true that in some other countries 4 months is given as the weaning age, but these countries have different cultural norms so the push for early weaning and fast weaning is less. For example, I live in Germany, and we are given a little chart that explains weaning as a 5 month process, adding one meal each month (starting with meat and potatoes!!) and then the fourth month is for changing from small puree meals to more typical family food and the fifth for adding snacks. So TBH I would not worry too much about what other countries say because you probably are not getting the whole picture, when people say things like "All the European countries start at 4 months and it's fine!"

If you want more info, your health visitor likely runs a free weaning course - ask her. First Steps Nutrition Trust is another free, not-for-profit resource aimed at parents of infants.

For paid content, Lucy Ruddle has an online starting solids course which runs monthly which I understand to be very good, if you like video content. And Amy Brown's book Why Starting Solids Matters has a lot of interesting info as well, if you prefer reading/audible.

BertieBotts · 03/01/2023 10:35

The Lucy Ruddle course is also recorded so you could share the videos with your family and do the attended part with your partner depending on when it runs.

First Steps Nutrition is also a useful resource to send to family and friends.

This leaflet is also useful for explaining why you shouldn't start too early or too fast:

www.whittington.nhs.uk/document.ashx?id=13269

BertieBotts · 03/01/2023 10:36

If that link doesn't work as you expect e.g. on a phone try googling "No rush to mush" as it should bring up the same document.

FlounderingFruitcake · 03/01/2023 13:40

If you’re seeing paediatric gastro then definitely discuss with them. If they advise early weaning then they should be able to guide you on how best to do it considering baby’s age and allergies. If they say wait until the advised ‘around 6 months’ then seriously what more do your DH and family need than that the specialist has advised to wait.

ForeverTired89 · 03/01/2023 22:49

I weaned at 5 months on doctors advice for bad reflux… it made no difference what’s so ever, just made her sick a different colour. Looking back I wish I waited. She didn’t grow out of reflux fully until she was walking at 16 months.

greenteafiend · 03/01/2023 23:00

Bertie Botts is correct that the British use of the term "weaning" is a bit of a problem.

In most other English-speaking countries, "weaning" means getting an older baby or todder off breastmilk/formula altogether, whereas giving the first bits of food at 4-6mo is described as "giving solids," "adding solid food" etc.

The British use of the word "weaning" to describe what we do at 4-6mo suggests that we are supposed to start cramming jars in and rapidly reducing milk feeds, which is not the case.

I started really small bits of food from 4.5mo, but I did this because there is evidence that exposing children to allergens like wheat, egg, nut, soy etc before 6mo reduces the risk of allergies, and because there is also some evidence that babies from 4mo benefit from iron-rich foods - meat puree, iron-and-zinc fortified puree etc. If you're just giving mashed banana and British "baby rice" (which in the UK is unfortified) I'm not sure there is much point, and if you do start any food at all before 6mo you should be giving very small tastes, which won't serve any purpose in terms of reducing milk feeds or making colid or reflux or sleep any easier.

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