Vertical cot bars liners/protectors?

[AnaCav]

Hey everyone,

About to move my DS (6 months-old) from his Next2Me Chicco crib to his cot. I know cot bumpers are a big no-no because of the risk of suffocation, strangulation, etc., but what about these vertical protectors that you can put in individual bars (see link). They're not made of fabric, rather that material that is like a hard foam. No ties used of course. (This product in the link is for you all to be able to visualize what I mean, and not the product that my husband - he's an engineer - will himself try to craft, and we'd only put a protector in 3 or 4 bars at head level).

https://www.wraua.com/?productid=844161411_89

What do you all think?

And is there any verdict about the airwrap mesh with velcro from PurFlo? Or individual airwrap mesh?

What did you fellow Mums use?

TIA

Really, you don’t need protectors.
baby is likely to chew them and then that will be a choking hazard

Good point, had not considered the chewing/choking hazard! Thanks

I agree with the PP, you don't need anything. Baby will bump their head every now and then but there'll be no harm.

These are unsafe. Do not put anything on or in the cot. Bumping heads/arms/legs is not dangerous and is part of learning.

Don't put anything in the cot. You don't need them and they are dangerous.

Thanks so much for the advice. I will not put anything.

Just a curiosity: what type of risk do the airwrap mesh with velcro poses?

I used the aircraft mesh with my first 7 years ago and plan on using it again this time. It wasn't bumbing her head I was worried about but more arms and legs going between the bars. Can't see how babies would chew the airwrap!

What was the point of bumpers for years before they were acknowledged as a danger. My first got his leg stuck in the cot bars once was aweful. Also the cots have 3 levels but then states you should have it at the lowest setting to keep them safe.

Honestly, they don't need protection from some small wooden bars. They can't get enough force going at that age to hurt themselves.

Arms are too small to get stuck in the cot bars. Legs - if they're in a sleeping bag it won't be an issue anyway. Dd1 when bigger and able to sit up did get her leg wedged a couple of times - she cried, we went and released it - end of story , no harm done.

Many risks with putting any type of fabric or mesh in the cot - is reduced air flow, sids, suffocation, entanglement of little fingers in straps, getting loose and strangulation, being used for climbing up. It's just not worth creating those awful risks to solve the problem you are using them for.

But regarding the mesh with velcro, I can't see how it would pose a suffocation, strangulation or entrapment risk. Has any death been associated with it?

It's not worth the risk.

I can’t fathom why you seem determined to ignore safe sleep practices?!

You really don't need anything at all

@Baconand and I can't fathom why you choose to ignore what I wrote: I won't put anything on the crib. How does saying "I won't put anything in the crib" = choosing to ignore safe sleeping practices?

My question regarding airwrap mesh is due to me wanting to know the reasoning behind it being deemed unsafe + I'm not a brainless troll who blindly follows things without attempting to understand the reasoning behind it.

Because it might be the case that a blanket rejection of airwrap mesh is easier than saying "it's safe if parents make sure to do a), b) and c)", since a lot of parents are careless and do not bother to check or double-check sleeping environments.

All the mesh things have some sort of straps or ties to hold them to the cot. That's the entrapment risk. If a strap comes off, baby could get it wound round their neck, or if they are climbing out, could get a leg stuck between the mesh and the bar etc.

Why is it that you would want to use them?

www.goodhousekeeping.com/childrens-products/child-safety-product-reviews/a27276000/crib-bumpers-safety-alternatives/

Baby could still get trapped between the mesh bumpers and the cot bars if the velcro is sturdy enough to hold it in place. If the velcro is weak then you have the opposite problem that baby could pull it off and start chomping on it. Surely it’s not that difficult to understand? Besides it’s not really an issue that needs solving anyway- mine was 18 months before his legs were big enough to properly get wedged between the bars so we just moved him into a bed at that point. As for head bumping, they’ll probably do that on the solid ends of the cot anyway regardless of whether or not you use bumpers, and it really doesn’t bother them.

OP people have pointed out repeatedly why the mesh is pointless yet you still keep asking why it’s a risk and how many deaths? What does it matter?

if you want to get the mesh then go ahead and get it, but quite frankly you’d be putting your child at risk all because posters on mumsnet can’t give you figures on how many deaths have occurred

thetes a reason why they are NOT included in safe sleep.

Thank you to the above posters that provided an actual explanation of why even mesh with velcro (not ties) could still be a problem. That makes sense.

To the other anon who - like the one before - is simply SHOCKED that I would want to know the reason why it's consider unsafe - even when I had already said that I wouldn't put anything in the crib, not even the mesh, but I guess selective reading comprehension is abundant around here -, I'll direct you to one of the my answers above.