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Is my 5yr old’s behaviour normal?

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 10/12/2022 15:49

Sorry if this is long- want to brain dump it all.
Don’t know if I have ridiculously high expectations or my child has an attention deficit disorder. My 5yr olds inability to focus on tasks is causing me so much stress, by the end of the day I feel utterly frazzled with requests to fill her time.

She is full of energy- always has been.

Typical weekend (her and her 2 yr old sister), we usually go out in the morning (park, soft play, farm) and afternoons tend to be home, crafts/ writing etc (she’s never been one for toys). She cannot spend more than 1minute on something.
Went to the feeding farm this morning (she rushes all the way round asking to get to the last animal). This afternoon wants me to do these craft cards I bought, so I lay out the cards and stickers and tissue paper and all manor of craft things- she takes one colour pen and colours the whole card in one colour and says done, “what next”.

She eats her dinner half sitting on a chair, watches the tv standing infront of it.
She also talks non stop- and the more tired she gets the more she talks as if fighting the feeling of tired, my sister witnessed it and agreed it’s almost manic.

No issues raised at school, in fact she’s won awards for good behaviour and work, teacher described her as an “angel”. I am aware though that girls can hide their issues when in school.
But I have googled adhd and not everything matches up. She’s never been physically impulsive, very danger adverse and can focus on her reading and maths homework.
Should also add she has epilepsy, so maybe I’m hyper sensitive as additional needs and epilepsy can go hand in hand.
Can anyone tell me if this sounds usual/ unusual.

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1AngelicFruitCake · 11/12/2022 05:52

What happens if at the farm you say ‘Wait a minute, let’s stay at the pigs’ and reminded her not to rush. What happens?
With the cards if you said ‘Can you try a bit harder, that one isn’t finished?’ what would she say?
can she play on her own, whilst you get on with something else?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 07:52

Namechangeforthisone2022 · 10/12/2022 21:19

Why not autism, my son had/has no interest in toys never slept, doesn’t sit still, bounces (stims) when watching tv.

Sleeps very well- sorry if I wasn’t clear, as a baby wasn’t an overly sleepy baby, always hyper alert. Does knock out instantly at 7/7.30 and sleeps a straight 11hrs- except for if she has nightmares.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 07:53

Cuppasoupmonster · 10/12/2022 21:41

Anyway ADHD briefly entered my mind for DD but you know what, she’s just a little kid and I find it depressing how we instantly seek out a ‘diagnosis’ and ‘treatment’ for small children when they’re happy. If her short attention span is seriously holding her back in future years and she wants help, I’ll consider it then, but for now she’s just my little whirlwind and being herself.

Thank you- I don’t want to label either, and I think because of the epilepsy diagnosis and it being linked with additional needs I’m projecting sometimes.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 07:56

bellamountain · 10/12/2022 22:03

Your daughter sounds like my DS, very similar behaviour. The only thing my DS can focus on is the iPad, he has no interest in toys really, never has. His younger brother can play with toys for hours on end. It's almost like my eldest doesn't know how to relax. He has tics that come and go, hates loud noise so there is definitely some hypersensitivity/sensory issues. He's also very emotional. Does your DD get emotional? Is she hard to console?

I have no problems with him at school. He's as good as gold by all accounts but in a class of 30, I can't imagine the teachers have a great deal of time to focus on things out of the ordinary unless a child is disruptive to be honest.

Yes!!! Same- very emotional (no issues with loud sounds, no sensory issues in that respect). Quick to cry for sure.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 07:58

mackthepony · 10/12/2022 23:58

How's their diet?

And is there loads of physical activity? I mean they need to be ideally running around outside for around 3 hours a day. I know this can be difficult to achieve!

Yes lots- one because she’s so active, and two because I have a toddler as well so physical activity is my life saver for sanity

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 07:59

1AngelicFruitCake · 11/12/2022 05:52

What happens if at the farm you say ‘Wait a minute, let’s stay at the pigs’ and reminded her not to rush. What happens?
With the cards if you said ‘Can you try a bit harder, that one isn’t finished?’ what would she say?
can she play on her own, whilst you get on with something else?

lots of moaning and complaining- I leave her to play and she won’t she’ll sit grumpy and
fidget etc. her sister is totally different and if I ignore her she eventually figures it out.

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Summersummersun · 11/12/2022 08:02

Go with your parental instinct, it’s usually right! I’ve had inklings about my DS since he was younger. School never raised anything to me until I started asking outright when he was in Year 1, and even then I got very little. Year 2 teacher slightly more proactive so I’ve managed to get him on the pathway for assessment (ADHD and/or ASD, there’s so much overlapping between them it’s hard to work out).

I’ve learned not to assume everything is fine if you don’t hear from school - this was the advice I had but because my DS isn’t aggressive, doesn’t get in that sort of trouble, nothing was ever mentioned to me. Waiting lists are very very long.

Summersummersun · 11/12/2022 08:05

My DS is very emotional, very easily annoyed or upset, but it wasn’t even an issue when he was 5 as he wasn’t different to the others! But now at 7, he’s much quicker to react negatively than peers. That’s textbook emotional dysregulation. We accept our DC for who they are and are so used to accommodating their works so it can be so hard to work out what is “normal” (hate that word in this context!) and what isn’t.

Summersummersun · 11/12/2022 08:05

*quirks not works 🙄

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 08:14

If your child does have ADHD in a very mild form- do they get put on medication?

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strandedabroad · 11/12/2022 08:21

You have described my 6 year old DS. He walked at 9 months and never stops talking/fidgeting/can't just 'be'. School have no issues and he's doing well. In the last 6 months or so he has been concentrating so much more - has started disappearing to his bedroom to build Lego, the first time I couldn't find him I got really worried as he'd never voluntarily done that before 🤣

His younger sisters have been able to sit and craft forever since they were 2.5-3, he's just not interested. A mix of personality/can't be bothered/needs to be on his feet at all times. I have wondered many times about ADHD but he's most likely absolutely fine.

HidingUnderMyDuvet · 11/12/2022 08:34

I am currently pursuing an ADHD diagnosis for my 6 Yr old (mostly because DH is diagnosed so we know what to look for and we are pretty sure DC has inattentive type)

Anyway. What strikes me about your DD is that she is fine at school. For diagnosis they need to be struggling in more than one setting. So if she is able to conce trade and complete all of her work at school, she would probably not be diagnosed. My DC rarely actually finishes any tasks set at school. He is equally unfocused at home (flitting between activities, forgetting what he is supposed to be doing), so displays the symptoms in two settings.

BertieBotts · 11/12/2022 08:34

No - medication is your choice as a parent, and probably wouldn't be suggested unless there are severe issues.

The point about waiting lists is a good one.

SkankingWombat · 11/12/2022 08:34

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2022 08:14

If your child does have ADHD in a very mild form- do they get put on medication?

My DD isn't medicated despite being much more than very mildly affected by it. The doctor who diagnosed her said it is something we should consider as the GCSE years approach, but she didn't feel it was in her best interests at the moment.

PlaygroupWoe · 11/12/2022 08:36

Summersummersun · 11/12/2022 08:02

Go with your parental instinct, it’s usually right! I’ve had inklings about my DS since he was younger. School never raised anything to me until I started asking outright when he was in Year 1, and even then I got very little. Year 2 teacher slightly more proactive so I’ve managed to get him on the pathway for assessment (ADHD and/or ASD, there’s so much overlapping between them it’s hard to work out).

I’ve learned not to assume everything is fine if you don’t hear from school - this was the advice I had but because my DS isn’t aggressive, doesn’t get in that sort of trouble, nothing was ever mentioned to me. Waiting lists are very very long.

We've experienced similar. DC is not badly behaved, so not really on their radar. I've suspected since preschool. Only because of my DH have I felt able to push the school to refer.

MudandParsnips · 11/12/2022 09:04

This is very interesting as she sounds quite like my nearly 4 year old DD - always been a whirlwind, except when she watches TV which she will want to do for hours. Very emotional, won't play with toys, cries and whines if left to own devices, extremely independent i.e. has to do everything herself, won't wear anything unless she's chosen it etc. She can be extremely intense and some everyday tasks can be a real challenge but other times, she'll take delight in being as good as gold. We hadn't really thought much of it as she's an only child and we don't know many other kids really. Full time play-based nursery (9-6), besides absolutely kicking off when they try to change her clothes, she seems to be doing really well, and is concentrating better during circle time. I thought it was just her personality... Plus, she's only 3? Not sure what to think now! Maybe sensory issues?! Anyway, really interesting to hear others experiences, I think I'll wait to see how she gets on at school, but might do a little more research..

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