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Friend telling my DS off - did I overreact?

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Skippu · 28/11/2022 09:52

Hello, I went to see a friend with my DS the other day and left feeling really upset. Looking for some honest opinions on whether I overreacted though!
My friend is child-free and lives alone with her puppy. We do meet up and it's usually either at my place or out for lunch. I try and make things fun for her when we do meet up and am not one of those mums who talks about her DC all the time. I also do meet her quite often without my DS as we've been friends for a long time and I didnt want me being a mother to affect our long standing friendship just because she doesn't have DC.
She's been asking me for a long time to go see her at her flat and to take my 20 month old DS with me. I'd been trying to avoid it for a long time and warned her several times that I didn't think it was a good idea as i was worried that DS would make a mess there etc etc but she has still been insisting that we go over there. So we went along the other day. I am quite an anxious parent in the sense that I watch my DS closely and tend to follow him around and stop him from touching things rather than just letting him run riot like some parents might do... especially in someone else's home. I also constantly clear up after him when we are in anyone else's home.
Anyway....we were only there for an hour and a half and I just had to leave quite abruptly because I'd had enough of the constant comments.

First he was eating blueberries and dropped 2 on the floor. Immediately she said to pick them up as she was worried about her puppy eating them as he's on a strict routine with his snacks and she didn't want him to become ill. Ok no problem at this point. Then there was some polystyrene left on the floor from one of her deliveries and h DS had literally just touched it and she immediately freaked out and told DS off and said to stop touching it as she didn't want the polystyrene scattered around her flat (which btw was messy anyway, I could understand her being uncomfortable if it was spotless!). He then had another snack where I cleared up the crumbs immediately from the floor. The last straw for me was when he started opening and closing the door of her dog's cage. Honestly....he was doing this very slowly and gently and not slamming the door at all. If he had been I would have stopped him immediately. Friend tells me that she's fine with DS doing that but if the cage door breaks then her puppy would have nowhere to sleep.
I had enough at that point and said I would just leave as in the space of an hour and a half I just felt constantly on edge there. She was a little taken aback but is now acting like everything is fine.

I am supposed to be meeting her soon without DS, but I am thinking to cancel as I feel so upset and angry after our visit as I don't think he was behaving terribly and also it's not like I was just letting him run wild around her flat ...he just wasn't behaving perfectly which is expected for a toddler. She used to come and stay over at mine all the time and if she ever spilt anything I never freaked out and tried my best to be a good host. Am I overreacting?? Happy to be told if I'm being silly.

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Theunamedcat · 28/11/2022 09:54

You knew it was a bad idea and went anyway personally I would consider it lesson learned and never go over again maybe skip this meet up give yourself some space

upfucked · 28/11/2022 09:56

I would have sat my toddler at a table or on a mat for snacks. I would never let a toddler play with polystyrene or a pet around it as it’s dangerous when eaten and doesn’t show up on xrays. I would have moved my child away from the cage. I think it’s a case of different expectations. Make future meet ups childfree or in child friendly places.

Tillsforthrills · 28/11/2022 09:58

You’re overreacting and super sensitive!

Everyone knows friends without DC just don’t get it so while her comments are slightly annoying you’ve definitely overreacted and put the friendship in jeopardy. Keep DS out of your meetings and save play dates with other mums for now, your DS is at the age where it’s normal for him to explore, make a mess and touch things he shouldn’t.

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Ifiwasabird · 28/11/2022 09:58

I think YABU I'm afraid. I wouldn't let a toddler play with a dog cage or play with polystyrene. I think it's perfectly reasonable she asked you to pick food up off the floor.

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 28/11/2022 10:04

Yeah YABU, toddlers don't need to play with dog cages. Firstly what if his fingers got trapped or he did indeed break it?
Secondly snacks are a sit at the table thing.

She shouldn't of told him though, it's your job to tell him which it sounds like you didn't.

Ragwort · 28/11/2022 10:04

You are being over sensitive, you know it was a bad idea to take your DS there but you went ahead anyway. And why give your DS two lots of snacks during an hour and a half visit? Totally unnecessary.

Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:05

Thanks! It's good to get another perspective. I should mention 2 things...I did mention when we got there that I would clear up any mess that DS would make. I guess I was just taken aback that she flipped immediately when he dropped the 2 blueberries. Also I wasn't planning on letting him play with polystyrene at all, he had literally just touched it and I was about to move him away but she beat me to it!
I agree that future meetups need to be without DS there. It's so difficult to remember how I would have reacted to things pre-DC.

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msbevvy · 28/11/2022 10:08

I would have rushed to pick up blueberries. They can make a hell of a mess if squashed into the carpet, never mind the dog.

The other things she did sound perfectly reasonable as well.

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lifeturnsonadime · 28/11/2022 10:15

re. the dog cage. Definitely a bad idea. It is a dogs safe space, it's not great for a child to be messing with it, it's not a play thing.

Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:15

@msbevvy - there was no carpet, it was wooden floor. And DS was sitting on my lap when the blueberries fell on the floor so I just couldn't get to them quick enough before she freaked out straight away. She didn't really give me a chance to pick them up iyswim. But yes totally agree that it's important to clear them up.

As for those of you saying toddlers should sit at the table when having a snack...she's not lived at her flat for long and didn't have a dining table. Otherwise yes totally would have done that. I'll get myself a floor mat to carry around with me, that's a great tip thanks.

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QueenBeex · 28/11/2022 10:16

Your friend sounds like mine, as much as she's insisted we go round, we have not and shall not purely for reasons like this. As someone without kids she would be on edge, as a parent of a small hyper child so would I in someone else's home.

Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:19

The dog cage was empty at the time and the bars were far apart so his fingers wouldn't have been trapped. Would never let him touch it if that risk was there :/ sorry for missing out loads of info!
He did close the door gently so no way would he have broken it. I would have stopped him immediately if he were about to damage anything.

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Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:19

@QueenBeex - thanks. I think you and some of the others are right...I really should have insisted that I wouldn't go round. I think I was a bit silly for giving in and just going. I was worried before I went.

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Ellie1015 · 28/11/2022 10:20

Your friend is too highly strung to have toddler visit. You suspected this and you were right.

She didn't tell him off, just kept trying to limit what he was doing. It is not fun for toddler so I wouldn't do that again.

I dont think it should effect your friendship. Your toddler wasn't unreasonable she is a too precious about toddler in flat.

NKFell · 28/11/2022 10:23

To me, YABU and overly sensitive and have that weird thing about 'women without children' as if they hate children.

lifeturnsonadime · 28/11/2022 10:24

The dog cage was empty at the time and the bars were far apart so his fingers wouldn't have been trapped. Would never let him touch it if that risk was there :/ sorry for missing out loads of info!

That's not really the point. If the dog was present you don't know how it would react to your toddler playing with it's safe space.

There are certain things you need to teach your child to respect.

So I do think you are being unreasonable in that respect.

Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:31

@NKFell - so sorry if I've caused offence! When I mentioned that he doesn't have kids I did so I could give all the background and facts as I appreciate that people without kids don't always understand how kids can be sometimes! I don't think they hate kids at all.
I have nephews and nieces and a large family so even pre kids I was always used to them iyswim but trying to get the perspective of those who havent that's all.

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Tessasanderson · 28/11/2022 10:32

You both sound a little intense tbh. Not much friendship going on and tbh it sounds like the 20mth old was the most mature person there.

Chill a little or find friends who are a little less hard work

TheSilentPicnic · 28/11/2022 10:36

I know you had every intention of continuing the friendship as before with your baby as an add-on but it just doesn't work. She doesn't understand your lifestyle, she doesn't "get" babies or life with babies, and she isn't motivated to change that.
I think it's sad when a few crumbs come between friends but honestly I couldn't be arsed with someone so uptight. I wouldn't meet her again. You need people who are kind about your child.

tulips27 · 28/11/2022 10:42

The way you describe her reaction to the blueberries varies, at first you say she "immediately she said to pick them up" but then later you say she "flipped". It's hard to get a picture of what actually happened, saying to pick them up isn't flipping in my book.

Skippu · 28/11/2022 10:42

@Tessasanderson - thanks ....great to get a useful and constructive opinion 😂

@TheSilentPicnic - I think you might be right. This is what I was worried about. It is sad but I don't want to be anxious and on edge every time I see her with my DS there. This is a side to parenting that I hadn't been prepared for at all.

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Nanny0gg · 28/11/2022 10:46

NKFell · 28/11/2022 10:23

To me, YABU and overly sensitive and have that weird thing about 'women without children' as if they hate children.

It's not a question of 'hate' at all!

Some people haven't had much experience of children so don't know what they might be in for if they have them to visit. There's nothing wrong with that!

FurAndFeathers · 28/11/2022 10:48

I feel so upset and angry after our visit

honestly you sound a bit dramatic.

she asked you to pick up food from the floor and for your toddler not to touch stuff that he shouldn’t be touching

that’s not unreasonable.

it sounds like you’ve already decided that your friend is anti child and hard work. Just ditch her. It sounds as if you don’t like her very much anyway and your reaction is disproportionate.

plus your toddler doesn’t need constant snacks

Differentnamedifferentplace · 28/11/2022 10:49

You are being unreasonable, and I feel for your friend. She wanted to see you at her place because she is probably tired of always being the one to go to you or meet in a kid friendly cafe because you are the one with kids. You mentioned yourself that she always comes to you, or you go out. I bet she has had enough of always being the one to make the effort.

Your kid then twice tipped food on the floor. I bet it was a lot more than you think - parents always minimise things that their children do - and then you didn't stop your child playing with a new, probably expensive, crate that she needed to keep her puppy safe. How would you feel if she let her puppy gently chew at the bars of your child's new cot or thought it didn't matter that her puppy dribbled over your carpet because she wiped it up? Same thing. As for the delivery packaging, she was probably pre-empting your toddler pulling it all over the floor. She wanted to nip it in the bud before it happened. You should have been the one to say don't play with the packaging, not her.

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