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How much do you pay for funded nursery

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Bluecoldpillicheppers · 21/11/2022 21:13

Talk to me about how much you pay with 30 free hrs. This still seems crazy

private nurseries around here seem to average the hrs out over the year so 22.3 hrs per week and still on a 3 day week, im being quoted £90! Basically it only reduces the bill by approx £80
per week so FT is still pretty much £200 (before TF childcare)

nursery attached to a school (not quite school nursery) 3 days is £22 (much better becasue that’s lunch supervision) but then you’ve got school hols to worry about but ok, but on full time it’s still £110 per week and then school hols on top.

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tealandteal · 21/11/2022 21:22

Surely it depends if you use the hours term time only or all year? When DS went to a nursery his 30 hours did reduce the bill a lot but he went for 4 days 8-4. I think we paid around £300/month. When we moved him to the local preschool we paid for lunches only as his 30 hours covered his 4 days (school hours).

DS2 is due to start nursery in June and I’m hoping by the time he is 3 that funded hours are still a thing to be honest.

Bluecoldpillicheppers · 21/11/2022 21:25

tealandteal · 21/11/2022 21:22

Surely it depends if you use the hours term time only or all year? When DS went to a nursery his 30 hours did reduce the bill a lot but he went for 4 days 8-4. I think we paid around £300/month. When we moved him to the local preschool we paid for lunches only as his 30 hours covered his 4 days (school hours).

DS2 is due to start nursery in June and I’m hoping by the time he is 3 that funded hours are still a thing to be honest.

Private nursery you’re not given the option they average it out. See it’s just not making that much of a dent for me and I don’t get it!

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TwinMum89 · 21/11/2022 21:31

We have 3 year old twins. They go to a private pre-school 4 days a week all year round. They qualify for 30 free hours which is spread out across the year. With the additional hours and the supplement for food, their monthly nursery fees are £565 each. We claim 20% tax free so pay around £900 a month in total. Whilst still extortionate, it is better than the £1,500 a month we were paying before September.

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Kymy · 21/11/2022 21:34

Mine goes 3 days a week. Even with 30 hours my bill is still over £500 a month. Thankfully tax free childcare pays some of that

Putdownthecake · 21/11/2022 21:37

Mine goes 5 days a week 9:30-3:30. I provide nappies, wipes etc and lunch. Cost 0. Term time only. His nursery dids 4 funding models. One includes food etc, one is all year and 22hrs per week (I think) so you can opt for what suits you best

modgepodge · 21/11/2022 21:37

My daughter goes to a pre school attached to a private school term time only. Fees are £1200 per term (approx 3.5 months so less than £400 per month) for 3.5 days per week (7.45-6pm if I need it). I use tax free childcare which reduces bill by 20% I was paying over £1000 per month some months with a childminder before she turned 3 so this feels like a bargain!!

TheTeddyBears · 21/11/2022 22:16

We get the hours spread over the 51 wks of the year they are open. We pay £3 for lunch as this isn't covered by the funding. To be fair it's breakfast, lunch and snack though.

So for the 3 days the full rate is £57 per day so £171 per week.

She's just about to get funding so I haven't seen latest bill but basing it on how they charged my older daughter who's just left nursery this year, I think it will be about £60 max per week.

Abouttimemum · 21/11/2022 22:19

£150pm, approx £120 with tax free, for 3 days all year, which is much better than £600pm!

citysloth · 21/11/2022 22:21

3 full days at private nursery is £200 a month and that includes tax free childcare discount

Twizbe · 21/11/2022 22:21

The 'funding' is a load of rubbish.

It isn't anywhere near enough for the nurseries to actually cover their costs.

It means where they can, they do all sorts of gymnastics to be able to charge you for other hours.

School nurseries have less wiggle room for this because they don't have the holidays.

My daughter goes to a lovely preschool that only does 15 hours a week. It's closing at Christmas because it doesn't have enough children and what funding they do get is just too little.

Bluecoldpillicheppers · 21/11/2022 22:33

The private nursery charge £16 per day for food and you’re not allowed to bring your own in

school nursery has a £60 year additional contribution and then £5 for lunch supervision and £2.50 for school lunch. Snacks are included in the day. Can use the 30 hrs for 9/3 school and then pay for wrap around or use funding for wrap around. Morning wrap around is £6 and the long evening is £12 per day

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WeightoftheWorld · 21/11/2022 23:15

My DD is 4 and goes to a private day nursery 3 days a week which is open 8-6pm. She gets 3 meals plus a snack there and we are in receipt of the 30hrs childcare. It's stretched across the year as you say. Day 1 has I think 2 hrs funded? Then the remaining normal rate for rest of the day. It works out to be around £45 for that day, as opposed to £54 for a full day without any funding. Day 2 and 3 are funded, so 'free', but we have to pay a consumables top up for both of those days which is about £10 a day. So the 3 days costs us around £65 a week before TFC as opposed to about £162 a week without any funding which is a huge saving. Our DS is 1 and attends the same but obviously has no funding and the under 2s cost £2 more a day as well so we pay even more for him.

Hugasauras · 21/11/2022 23:17

Private nursery 7.30am-5.30pm, three days a week 48 weeks of the year (closed two weeks at Xmas and we have to take DD out for two weeks of our choice across the year. £168 a month.

Cherrytree77 · 22/11/2022 10:24

before free hours, our nursery full time is £1530 a month, and then we get £166 a month from the Gov discount scheme.

When free hours kick in, its £850 a month all inclusive of everything.

I cannot WAIT.

SunshineClouds1 · 22/11/2022 10:38

My private nursery allows you to pick.
We stretched and don't pay a thing!
I provide nappies etc, he gets food included.

Not sure how they are managing but I'm very thankful!

Mommabear20 · 22/11/2022 10:45

We're in the same boat! We found a private nursery that we loved, but couldn't afford it as the extra cost was too much. We're now looking at the playgroup attached to the local primary school, which does look nice and is the school DD will most likely go to, and all fees are covered, but it's only 9-1 Monday to Friday so limits options of half or full days dramatically! It's not too bad for us as she's our eldest of 3 under 3 so we will always be off with the younger 2 anyway (and same for when DS starts the following year) but when our youngest starts and the others are in school, I was hoping to be able to go back to work more hours but won't be able too due to short nursery hours 🤷‍♀️

2anddone · 22/11/2022 10:51

Funding is rubbish the amount the local authority pay childminders and nurseries is so low it doesn't cover costs. I am a childminder I get £4.20 per child per funded hour I don't have the overheads a nursery has but have much lower ratios as no staff. I don't charge extra so I have 2 children who will receive funding after Christmas and neither will get a monthly invoice from me as the funded hours cover the time they are here...I will be making a loss each month.

FartOutLoudDay · 22/11/2022 11:03

However the nursery slice it up, there must be an option to access the hours without having to pay any additional charges - that’s the law. The council is responsible for ensuring providers are invoicing correctly including a clear explanation and breakdown of any charges.

Bluecoldpillicheppers · 22/11/2022 11:12

FartOutLoudDay · 22/11/2022 11:03

However the nursery slice it up, there must be an option to access the hours without having to pay any additional charges - that’s the law. The council is responsible for ensuring providers are invoicing correctly including a clear explanation and breakdown of any charges.

Yes this is what I thought too and I’ve directly asked the question to the nursery and they’ve said no… which is why I’ll be removing her from them because it’s outrageously expensive

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Numbat2022 · 22/11/2022 11:13

Private nursery open 7.30am-6.30pm, so if you're on the 'full day' contract you pay for all those hours and they count as funded hours, regardless if you use them. You can choose to do a 'school day' ending at about 3.30 but that's no good for us as we work.

My son's nursery costs dropped from about £1100 for four full days pre-funded hours, to just over £600 now he's in pre-school. They add on extra for the activities they have to pay extra for (Boogie Mites, Forest School, some other things).

The pre-school attached to the school near us is much, much cheaper but is only open until 3.30pm and is closed in the school holidays, so they use up far less of the funded hours.

kegofcoffee · 22/11/2022 11:21

£1140 a month, with 30 hours free.

Was £1460 without the free hours, so around a £300 a month saving.

Was a HUGE kick in the teeth when I got my first bill and it wasn't much cheaper.

RewildingAmbridge · 22/11/2022 11:21

Our private nursery only lets you use the hours term time we pay £28 a day lunch and Montessori fees on top of funded hours 9-5:30 two days a week, 9-4 on Fridays.
In the holidays it costs around £75 a day

RewildingAmbridge · 22/11/2022 11:22

We would pay a lot more if we had to drop off for breakfast and pick up at 6/7pm we're lucky with our work that we can do 9am drop offs and pick up between 5-5:30 between us

RewildingAmbridge · 22/11/2022 11:25

And that includes tax-free childcare discount

kegofcoffee · 22/11/2022 11:29

FartOutLoudDay · 22/11/2022 11:03

However the nursery slice it up, there must be an option to access the hours without having to pay any additional charges - that’s the law. The council is responsible for ensuring providers are invoicing correctly including a clear explanation and breakdown of any charges.

True, but most private nurseries have cottoned on to this.

Our nursery is open 7am-6pm.
You can 6 hours free funding a day. BUT it has to be 7-10am and 3-6pm.

Meaning to get it free you'd have to pick them up at 10am and drop them back at 3pm.

The other option is to pay £42.50 to cover the 5 hours between 10-3.

Most nurseries in our, massively over subscribed, area do similar but on a 8.30-3.30pm 7 hour day where you have to pay for lunch hour, or pick them up and take them away for an hour.