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Just seen a sleep consultant about early wakes

39 replies

sunflowerandivy · 15/11/2022 15:40

9 month old wakes and poops in night. Wakes between 4 and 5:30 am most nights.

And this is what they suggested-

  1. Earlier bedtime! Apparently a 4.5 hour awake window too long before bedtime
  2. Porridge before bed. This will help stop the middle of the night poos apparently!

Please, has anyone had experience of earlier bedtime helping earlier rising!

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MissMaple82 · 16/11/2022 08:13

MolliciousIntent · 15/11/2022 16:09

Tbh if your baby is waking to poop you're not going to be able to sleep train - you can't teach them not to poop!

Did you not read the full post?

MolliciousIntent · 16/11/2022 08:33

MissMaple82 · 16/11/2022 08:13

Did you not read the full post?

No, I read the full post. And all the other posts. The baby poos at 4am and is then up for the day. Can't teach a baby not to poo.

Geranium1984 · 16/11/2022 08:36

Earlier bedtime is definitely a thing. Over tired babies don't sleep well.
Try it for a week, what have you got to loose!

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sunflowerandivy · 16/11/2022 08:51

Wow, there is a surprising amount of bashing on this thread considering I've only suggested putting a 9 month old to bed early and giving her porridge.
I guess I did say that I did controlled crying. I did a two week process which started with "pick up, put down" and ended with a bit of controlled crying as she would only sleep and nap on me which wasn't safe and Co-sleeping wasn't working for either of us. I cannot feed lying down and Co-sleeping did not settle her. So, yes, I taught my daughter to sleep in her cot at 6/7 months using pick up / put down and a bit of controlled crying (5 mins max of crying as she had gotten use to cot already).

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sunflowerandivy · 16/11/2022 09:15

SunflowerGirl91 · 16/11/2022 08:11

9 months old. She’s meant to wake during the night. You’ve already done “controlled crying” and now you’re trying another form of sleep training. Surely this is giving you the message that it doesn’t work?

every single baby on this planet is different and wired different which is why sleep consultants are a load of shite. No human on this planet sleeps 100% throughout the night. Your child will wake up just as much as she is now, only shr won’t bother asking for you because she’ll know you won’t go. She isn’t an alarm clock or robot. She’s a baby designed to wake up.

How is putting a baby to bed earlier a form of sleep training?

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NewEnglandDeli · 16/11/2022 09:27

Try and give protein at lunch time and carbs for dinner. No protein at dinner for a while worked for my son re - the pooping.

I would shorten that wake window before bedtime and also take a look at naps. If 9mo is having too much day time sleep then that will eat in to night time sleep.

What are naps like?

KER90 · 16/11/2022 09:44

I'm interested to know if the porridge thing helps with the 4am pooing. DS2 used to do it consistently at 4am for months and then all of a sudden just stopped. DS3 who is almost 6 months has started doing it now, gradually to earlier and earlier from 6am to 4am. Am hoping that it stops as quickly as it started.

PatientlyWaiting21 · 16/11/2022 16:10

its not just earlier bedtime, they (most do) need a decent amount of day sleep, if they are overtired then they won’t manage to stay asleep.

we have a 12 month old, bedtime is 7pm, although last night was 6.30pm as was sleepy, slept until 7am.

lawofselfish · 17/11/2022 06:26

Your child will wake up just as much as she is now, only shr won’t bother asking for you because she’ll know you won’t go.

This load of shite is trotted out all the time despite being completely untrue.

Envious people trying to guilt others.

carefulcalculator · 17/11/2022 06:35

Sleep consultant= bollocks. They give basic advice, half the time it coincides with some sleep change in a baby, they claim results.

BiasedBinding · 17/11/2022 07:39

lawofselfish · 15/11/2022 17:37

Won't happen overnight. Takes at least 6 weeks

That’s hilarious Grin

anything can change in six weeks whether you do something or not at that age.

good luck OP, early rises are hard work

Jetsil · 17/11/2022 08:32

My 7.5 month old has started pooing this week, first 2 nights 6am then 1 night at 4.40am today 4.30am.

They had a cold they were getting over and had diarrhea but have also just realised a tooth came through, just half the tooth so far. They still have a dodgy tummy most of the day, going on a week now.

Baby gets proteins at lunch and carbs at dinner. Will try porridge before bed and see if it does anything as they're so tired from all the early wakes.

If no poo they sleep from 10.30pm after dream feed until 7am.

Madeintowerhamlets · 17/11/2022 08:35

Hodgepodge211 · 15/11/2022 17:32

For some children early rising can be caused by overtiredness - but for others it can be that they have simply had enough sleep by 5am! 10-11 hours is normal at this age overnight, and if they are lower sleep needs and have a decent chunk in the day they may even end up with an even shorter nap. So for some babies, an early bed fixes an early rise. And for some it makes them rise earlier! (For context I'm also a sleep consultant too!)

This is good advice!

Chasingpavementsss · 17/11/2022 10:15

My DD is 11 months so a bit older than yours but used to wake super early too. Cutting her morning nap to 30 minutes (was previously 60-90 mins) worked a treat! She almost instantly went from 5-5:30am wakes to 6-6:30am

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