How TF do you get 3/4yo to be quiet for baby's nap?

[BertieBotts]

He is usually at nursery but they close for a 3 week break in summer (not UK) - I've been spoiled! Help! I've mainly been growling at him and putting him in room but not v helpful really. Finally got baby to sleep in buggy now but I feel so drained/cross I don't actually want to do anything with 3.11yo. However I will pull it together, point out the lovely one on one attention he can have now baby is asleep and do something. But argh!!! How do other people manage?

My toddler was much younger but I expected baby to slot in with her day and that usually meant going to the park and baby sleeping in the buggy or sling.I also timed shopping so that they could possibly both nod off on the car .

TV

I ended up having to put the baby upstairs as toddler was just too noisy. Checked regularly but no other choice as baby was getting so tired and upset.

You don't, the second just gets used to sleeping in chaos

Baby needs to fit in with toddler not the other way round if time nap with a walk/trip to park or a drive or failing that give toddler an iPad/tv time. But your setting your toddler up to fail if u to expect them to be quiet on command.

If baby is old enough to be upstairs put baby in its cot and toddler downstairs. If not tv while the baby nods off then duplo or brio usually works for me. I do find though once the baby is asleep the toddler can make as much noise as they want and she doesn't wake.

Baby upstairs in cot with door shut. I think uabu to expect silence from a three year old

How old is the baby, @BertieBotts ?

TV on while you out the baby down, and then an hour or so of books and and 1:1 play (or more TV if you have jobs to do )

At that age you explain why they have to be quiet, and follow through consequences if they don't listen.

Tv/kindle etc, i would use the babies nap as time for ilder one to also have aome quiet time. If baby is under 6 months and needs to be downstaira with you, fhen older one could have quiet time in theit bedroom, or vice versa if baby is napping in their cot

This.

We don't have an upstairs, we live in a flat. Baby is 11 months old and nosy, so no chance on a walk as he just wants to see everything. He will fall asleep in the car or bus, but I don't have a driving license and the bus is not always practical. He doesn't go to sleep if put down alone and I am unlikely to achieve this change within the next 3 weeks, nor do I think it's worth sleep training just for the sake of 3 weeks a year.

Silence is not the expectation, the baby is perfectly OK to sleep through TV noise or normal volume playing/talking, but loud shouting out the words to a song, being a fire engine siren, appearing next to him to fly aeroplanes past his face, crashing toy car into the chair I'm sitting on etc is proving a bit distracting. It doesn't matter if I take toys away as he just chooses something else. Just anything to get attention.

Oh well. I got him down by pushing the buggy back and forth in the living room today. There were a few interjections making the falling asleep process take longer, but it did work in the end. We have done some drawing and stickers and now having a snack.

My DS has 'quiet time' while baby DD sleeps. This consists of watching his iPad with a snack. He loves it and it means I get to shower and chill. Then we eat lunch together and maybe have a play if she has a longer nap.