2yo never dry overnight

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Hello I was just wondering whether this was normal, my 2yo is in pull ups overnight and every morning the nappy is absolutely full of wee. It doesn’t leak, but it’s just so full it can’t be far off. I’m struggling to understand how he wees so much in the night, he was BF overnight up until last month so I previously put it down to that, but now he takes a little cup of water to bed and doesn’t even finish this in the night, but his nappies are still so so full in the morning. He didn’t even have a cup of milk before bed last night and it was still the same this morning.

We’re thinking of starting gentle potty training in September as he seems to be showing all the signs (in the day) however night time would just be pointless right now.

Also to add, he’s a happy healthy boy who drinks a normal amount and nappies seem normal in the day.

It's normal, the body doesn't just have one cup of water in and then immediately pee it out, so there isn't a correlation as such with drinking. Don't you ever pee in the morning? Now imagine you're in bed even longer but with no bladder control and permission to pee in your sleep.

Even once he's dry in the day, it doesn't follow that he'll be dry at night. It requires a hormone kicking in

Perfectly normal until way older than 2! Being dry in the day often comes before being able to go all night. My kids varied; two of them were dry night and day at the same time but the other two had around a year of still being in pull ups at night.

Most children are in night nappies for a year or two (or more) after being reliably potty/ toilet trained in the day. There's a hormone the body produces to concentrate night time urine and until the body starts producing it it's nearly impossible for a child to be reliably dry at night.

One of mine was daytime potty/ toilet trained quite easily at only just two but in night nappies until 4, the other two still had wet nappies at night when they daytime potty trained at 2.5 and at 3 but we did nights at the same time successfully (one who trained at 2.5 decided himself that he didn't wear nappies any more despite them always being full - I was sceptical but he only had one day accident and never, ever wet the bed at all, but the one who trained at 3 had loads of accidents in the day and a few at night until he finally cracked it at about 3.5).

In short they're all different but its unusual to be night dry at only just 2.

Yes perfectly normal. DD was in night nappies until age 5, all of a sudden started sleeping through the night (finally!) and waking up dry. Like a switch had been flipped.

Also don't restrict liquid before bed - it doesn't help to dehydrate the child. Obviously don't encourage drinking a liter of water in one go immediately before getting into bed, but don't ban the amount they naturally want!

Thank you, it’s not so much that I expect him to be really completely dry it’s just SO much that I sort of can’t understand where it comes from!

I’d never restrict food or drink, he was offered a cup of milk last night but didn’t want it, and had a cup of water with hun overnight.

Completely normal. I have a thread going about our 5yo not being dry at night- similarly large amounts of wee- you may have a long haul ahead of you!

Night time dryness will come after daytime potty training, my son was dry in the day two months after 2nd birthday and then a few months later dry at night , he’s really reliable and never wets the bed. So just go for the daytime first and the nights might follow , I give him lots to drink in the day and just sips of water 1-2 hours before bed and then a wee at the very last minute before sleep x

*He did wet the bed twice when I took night time pull ups off too soon but that’s it , couple of weeks back in them and he was just dry from then on x

@SpamplusOnionisntASalad

I disagree , if they have loads to drink in the day they’ll be fine having just sips 1-2 hours before bed. It works for us anyway x

This was my 2yo DD (she used to leak through her nappy at night as it was so full sometimes) but after she toilet trained she went to being dry at night almost immediately!

@Cr22345678990 it's usually unnecessary though and sometimes counterproductive (dehydration causes constipation which actually causes pressure on the bladder from the bowels and the more frequent urge to urinate). A child who is often dehydrated won't actually develop bladder capacity and will be unable to wait a whole night out without emptying their bladder.

Any restriction of fluids has to be done with an overview of the entire day, ensuring that the child increases fluid intake in the morning and early afternoon.

Once the ADH hormone is produced it's very rarely necessary to limit fluid intake as only concentrated urine to rid the body of toxins and waste chemicals is produced during sleep.

Fluid reduction 1-2 hours before bed is only recommended for older children and adults who bed wet, not for two year olds who are more unlikely than likely to be producing the ADH hormone yet so often not physically "ready" to be night dry.

Pull ups aren't as absorbent as normal nappies so if they're on the verge of leaking I'd switch. Like PP have said though even once potty trained it's unlikely you'll go straight to being dry at night. It took DD 2 years after being dry in the day to being dry at night (I did no night training as 1 - apparently night time dryness can't be taught and 2 - who's got time to keep changing and washing bedsheets!).

Ha ha DC wasn't dry in the night until 9 I think you're slightly ahead of yourself here

Wait, your child is still in nappies during the day? You’re getting way ahead of yourself. Children are dry in the day before night, sometimes for a couple of years.

We used to lift them before we went to bed and put them on the toilet for a wee. They never woke up and just wee.

None of them had accidents overnight once dry in the day.

All three refused nappies once they had pants.

Unfortunately this phase feels like an eternity!

My kids were potty trained day and night at the same time, I know people say it's 'normal' not to be dry overnight for sone time after but I'm sat here with mums of seven kids between us and they said their kids were dry overnight within a few weeks of being potty trained.
I started my first at about two and a half. Dry at night same time (in fact it was being fairly dry at night that I knew he was ready). Of course he had the odd accident after, but not overnight. My daughter slightly earlier and she quickly developed in to not wanting to pee at all!! I'd take her in to nursery and have to tell three she hadn't peed in over 12 hours! Apparently not that unusual in girls.
But kids are different- Maybe lift him for a wee before you go to bed?

Erm my NT 8 year old only got dry overnight by his 8th birthday 😆

It's very rare for children to be dry at night at the same time as they start being dry in the day. It's great for those that are but past experience IRL has taught me the majority of people who say their children were dry at night straight away also let it slip that they have to change their sheets how many times a night. If a child is wetting the bed a lot they aren't dry
I'm not saying this applies to anyone on here as frankly I don't know you and there are children who get it straight away. Then there is the other >90% that don't.

If its any help, my Ds used to have a wet nappy when not potty trained. Obviously just peed day or night in nappy. As soon as we daytime trained, like a switch he stopped being wet overnight and now gets up in the morning to pee.

This is what my DD was like and then all of a sudden on day started waking up dry at around 2.8yo. I think it's a developmental thing so will happen with time!

So he's not potty trained during the day but you're surprised he's not potty trained at night? What?? It will all come. Day dryness months before night dryness in most cases.

Don't worry. How many adults do you know who are unable to get up to pee in the night?
How many adolescents wet the bed regularly (when they're not pissed as a fart!)?
How many 10 years olds who don't have an underlying condition!

Same with stopping the breast/bottle.

Your child will be fine. Just go at their pace, don't force it.

@SpamplusOnionisntASalad
They won’t be dehydrated if they drink enough in the day. I’m saying small sips and not to drink a massive amount 1-2 hours before bed. As I said it worked on my son he’s been dry at night since 2 and a half.

@SpamplusOnionisntASalad

Majority of people on here think it’s impossible a child is dry at night before age 5 or older. It is actually possible.