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7 Month Old Schedule... what are we doing wrong?!

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skipperdoo · 05/07/2022 11:00

DH and I have been taking a 'responsive' approach to our daughter. When she is hungry we feed her, when she is tired, we offer a nap. We do keep a vague eye on the clock to see when she might need a feed or sleep, but 7 months on and she seems to have absolutely NO pattern. Sometimes the wake window is 90 minutes, sometimes its 3.5 hrs. Sometimes she will go 2 hours between feeds, sometimes 3.5!

I see friends and others who have more of a set schedule already and I feel at a loss of how to get there. Every day feels like a new frontier and a little more order would be really beneficial to our family now but there seems to be no rhyme or reason with her.

We do try to do the wake-feed-play-sleep routine so at least there is a consistent order of things but we can't even achieve that these days because her wake windows are a bit longer (2-3 hours) and she may be hungry for another feed before she gets down for her nap by then. I do try to separate the feed and nap by at least 10 mins if this happens so there is no sleep association.

She was exclusively BF until 6 months and now we are slowly weaning her off (about 50/50 at the moment breast and bottle, 6 feeds a day) so that when she starts nursery at 9 months she can continue with bottle feeding and I won't have to pump. So this may be part of the problem - she can go longer between feeds of formula than breastmilk. We're also on two small meals a day but most of the food ends up on the floor so no telling how much she is actually getting there.

We always aim for bedtime between 6:30 and 7:30 pm but this is entirely dependent on her last nap of the day. She only naps about 35-40 minutes a stretch, but sometimes she will do the odd hour. Every 'schedule' you see assumes that the child will sleep 60-90 minutes so those are all out the window. And every schedule I see makes me feel worse and worse because it looks so different from our day-to-day.

I assumed after 6 months she would naturally lengthen her nap cycles and everywhere I looked for advice said as much, but this doesn't seem to have happened no matter what we try! Her daytime sleep is less than 3 hours usually which also seems bad when you look for advice online. But she wakes up happy and smiling and ready to play, so she's not still sleepy after her cat naps, but then her wake windows seem really behind what is normal for a 7MO because she will get tired again usually at around 2 hours (but again, this changes all the time) :(

We would try to have a consistent wake time but this too differs every. single. day. I shouldn't complain as she usually sleeps through at least 9 hours (usually 10.5-11 hrs -- and then if she was napping poorly and was overtired, surely she wouldn't consistently sleep well at night?? Is she just a low sleep need child?), but I am starting to feel like a failure as a FTM and don't know how to get her on track or if this is all within the range of normal?? She's a happy little thing, do we just carry on with this 'responsive' approach and accept she is a crap napper?

TYIA for any advice... feeling a bit at a loss!

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shivawn · 05/07/2022 11:42

Hmmmm, to me a schedule is very important because my baby won't sleep through the night without a good daytime routine. If your 7 month old is sleeping 10.5-11 hours straight overnight then you're very lucky and I'd be less concerned about having a schedule.

If you do want your days to be more organised then you could try implementing loose wake windows. 90 minutes is a very short wake window for a 7 month old. Mine is quite low sleep needs but just for reference we were doing 2 naps a day and wake windows of 3 hours 15 minutes/3 hours 30 minutes/4 hours 15 minutes at 7 months (still doing the same at 9 months). 3/3/4 would be quite a common schedule at this age.

skipperdoo · 05/07/2022 19:55

Bump...

Thanks @shivawn , usually it is about 2-2.5 hrs wake window, but if she has a really bad nap (like 20 mins) she will only go about 90 mins awake before getting really fussy and cranky/tired. Before bedtime we aim for closer to 3 hrs awake.

Anyone else have any insights? Or should I just be grateful we have a good night sleeper and say to hell with the rest?

Also, if anyone is here, can I ask if you just let your baby cry in the crib until getting them up for the day so that you have the consistent wake time? Or do you also find every day is completely different?

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Crossornot · 05/07/2022 21:45

Hi OP

If your baby is happy and sleeping well at night then I’m not totally clear on what the problem is, but I will say that the only thing that jumped out at me from your post, is the idea that because your baby wakes up from her cat naps smiley and playful she must no longer be tired. It sounds to me like what is happening is that during her daytime naps she isn’t linking sleep cycles, so she’s waking up after one cycle and you think she’s ready to get up, but maybe what she actually needs is help going back to sleep again. I say this because my baby often wakes up after a very short nap, much shorter than I know he needs, and is super smiley and cheeky, but if I feed him back to sleep he quickly goes down again for a long stretch.

But you are clearly not failing and I’m not sure why you think that at all!

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R1408 · 05/07/2022 21:51

Do you want to get her in a daytime routine?

If you and she are both happy and she's getting enough food and sleep then you can continue as you are...

Pantheon · 06/07/2022 16:03

I think we were doing 2, 3, 4 at that age in terms of wake windows if that helps at all

BuffaloCauliflower · 06/07/2022 16:09

Wake-feed-play-sleep is a very unnatural routine as most babies want to feed to sleep and go to sleep most easily after feeding. The invention of this schedule (which I know is common) isn’t based on normal baby development. It might well be working against you. Wake windows also vary massively between children, they’re all different people who will do different things.
In the first year they also change all the time, rhythms are generally better for everyone than strict routines which will need to change all the time.
If she’s sleeping that much over night (not common) it sounds like she’s getting most of the sleep she needs at night and cat naps in the day are all she needs. If it’s working for her that’s fine! You might like to look up the Possums Approach which is much more in line with natural development though.

BuffaloCauliflower · 06/07/2022 16:10

I also don’t think there’s ever a need to let a baby cry alone in a crib (save for when you’re about to lose it and might need to step away for your own sanity) if she’s awake the wake window has started whether you get her up or not!

Minemineyours · 06/07/2022 16:23

Hi op
We have rhe exact same problem over here and this is my third baby!
It's definitely nothing you're doing as I did the same with my older 2 and they quickly fell into a routine.
This one however is just like your baby, he will only Nap for 30 mins unless held and even then will wake and have to be rocked back to sleep so its definitely an issue with not linking sleep cycles but u haven't been able to find a solution to it.

Our wake window is 2 hours and I've found if you look online that is actually quite normal for this age.

He does a 6 hour stretch at night before needing a feed then back down for 4 to 6 hours and he's on expressed breastmilk.

I am literally just waiting it out to see if anything will make it any better I'm toying with idea of signing up to the Huckleberry ap but I'm wary of if they will just suggest the same things we've already tried.

SamanthaVimes · 07/07/2022 11:35

My DD didn’t nap longer than half an hour in the day until she dropped to 2 naps (45 mins each) and then 1 nap (1-2 hours).

Literally nothing I did would make her sleep longer than that. Not boob/contact, not keep moving in the pram, not leaving her to fuss, not being in the car. She was perfectly happy after her little cat naps though so I just reached a point where I thought it isn’t actually a problem. She’s happy, it’s fairly predictable if unusual… why am I fighting this?!

I actually found the short naps quite convenient as a lot of the places we’d go were 30-45 mins away in the car so she could nap in the way to somewhere, we’d spend the wake window there and then she could nap on the way home.

If you need a schedule for your own sanity then by all means try some things but if you just think she “should” be on one now then you can ignore it and keep doing what’s working for you, she’s sleeping well at night so seems unlikely that she’s really overtired or anything.

RandomQuest · 07/07/2022 11:39

If baby sleeps well at night then I wouldn’t bother changing anything especially as she’s starting nursery soon so will have to adapt to their schedule anyway which will probably be a bottle feed and nap mid morning, lunch followed by a longer nap, another bottle mid afternoon, the tea with the bottles being replaced with snacks as she gets older.

Soph0105 · 07/07/2022 17:45

How many naps a day does she have OP? The only way we got our boy to have longer naps was to cut naps from 3-4 shorter ones to 2 which were naturally longer. He basically went from 30 minute cat naps to 90 minute sleeps from one day to the next once we'd made the change.

Sbena · 07/07/2022 18:47

By 7 months I was loosely trying to follow a schedule, but baby definitely had other ideas. Eventually he did settle into it and now at 11 mo he does things at the same time every day like clockwork.

As to naps, my boy didn't start having longer naps until he started crawling. My sister's didn't until they were down to 1 nap.

Don't stress about the routine; as solids progress it will sort of happen naturally. If she's happy then it's not broken!

DontYouLeaveMe · 07/07/2022 18:50

I had DS on the perfect schedule, he slept through the night by six months. Tried to get daughter on the same routine. She had none of it! Refused to follow the routine, refused to sleep, refused to nap, was exhausted and so was I! There was literally no difference in the plan or routine, just different children reacting differently to their own needs :( she did sleep eventually, but it literally took years, sorry!

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