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Is my fiancé being unreasonable?

68 replies

Mummybear1993 · 04/04/2022 07:16

Hi,
My fiancé has two children that are 17 and 18 years old. They hardly stay with us and when they do, twice a month, they are in their rooms or go out.
My two children are 10 and 12. We have them all the time as their dad has now cut them off completely.
My fiancé always gets annoyed with my two children. My children are not perfect, but they are good children. They are polite, they are loving, they are kind and caring, they are generous and share, they do household jobs like: bring their washing down, make their beds, dust their rooms, helpful around the house, wash their dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, they have good attendance and behaviour at school etc. they are by no means perfect, but they are good kids.
However, my fiancé never compliments any of that. He points out all the things they do wrong. The mucky marks on the walls in the hall way, the way the floorboards creak when my daughter dances or does a work out in her bedroom (she is 12 and her bedroom is directly above our living room) etc.
I think my son has ADHD or similar and is being assessed at the moment, so he is very forgetful about things, answers back, gets moody and angry about circumstances and my fiancé has no patience for this.
He complains everyday about them. So much so that he doesn't want to go aboard with us all together as he thinks my son would ruin it and he said it would be like burning £6k.
He shows me when they haven't rinsed or washed up their things properly, shows me their poo stains in the toilet and shows me all the marks they have made on the door.
His two children are by no means perfect but I just let it go to save arguments. His sons room is a put of dirty washing under the bed, wrappers everywhere from sweets and chocolates these are under the bed, in the bed and everywhere, clothes are strewn across the floor, bottom of wardrobes too. His daughter just hands in her underwear to wash like her brother when they remember, I haven't washed any of their clothing in months. But I don't say anything to keep the peace.
If I don't agree with my fiancé, such as suggest that my daughter has my step son's room when he goes to uni in a couple of year's time etc rather than creaking the floorboards and playing her music loud, he gets really annoyed because he wants ME to tell her to stop doing all the things she wants to do in her room and she can do them in the back room, the garage etc. I said she can do those things in the back room for the next two years but then it makes sense for her to have the downstairs room when she is older if the sound of her annoys him. He got angry at this.
He brought up all the mess they make. I said they are kids, do you not remember when your two were young? Then he said no. He also said that this is why he never talks to me when he is annoyed as he just feels worse. I suggested he talks to someone who had younger children about his feelings to see what they say. He snapped my head off and said no, this is my house and this is what I want. I don't care what others do. I said it would do him good to listen to others and then maybe see that children making some noise, is very normal. He stormed out of the house and went to work early. Just to upset me. He can be very cruel, yet the world sees him as the nicest guy.

He doesn't show his impatient and angry side to the world. They wouldn't believe me. He is so calm, attentive and patient at work and with others. It frustrates me to high heaven. He had an affair two years ago with a work colleague of his, which I am not allowed to talk about either.

He gets so angry with me. He rarely, if ever compliments me on anything I do, I often get a patronising "well done dear" or some back handed compliment. He mocks me (although says it's a joke) a lot of the time. I feel hurt and sad. I often wonder if it's emotional abuse.

Can anyone help or offer some support?

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 04/04/2022 08:00

You need to see a lawyer now, and find out about the money in the house.
Then, once you have the strategy on the house, is your name on bills? If not, stop paying into the joint account. Don’t accept a compromise- he starts paying again and puts the £10k back, not either or. Let him default on them or pay them. Can you move to your parents?

Beamur · 04/04/2022 08:00

Your original post was bad but the update is worse.
You will ruin your children's childhood if you stay with this horrible abusive man. It doesn't matter how he seems to other people or whether or not anyone believes you - that's unimportant.
Get some legal advice, you've been foolish to put considerable amounts of money into the property with no protection. But equally if the house isn't in your name, you are free to leave. Don't give in to a sunken cost fallacy - just because you've put in lots of money and time really doesn't mean you should stay.
It really isn't going to get better. I daresay if you marry him, the abuse will get worse.

fiftyandfat · 04/04/2022 08:01

Do your parents have evidence of the money they paid towards the house?

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TracyMosby · 04/04/2022 08:03

This is awful. Emotionally abuse like this will damage your children for life. It will effect their life choices. It will change what they see as normal. It will effect their choice of partner. A slightly less abusive one that yours will seem like a blessing to them… at first.

We have lots of money from my parents in the house and they are worried we will lose it. I don't have my name on the mortgage or deeds How did that happen?!?!

People will believe you. Stop lying for him for a start.

Iwonder08 · 04/04/2022 08:06

Omg.. If you can't sort out the deeds and mortgage yourself please ask your parents to help to talk to him given it is their money. You have brought this horrible man into your kids life, it I syour job as a parent to untangle the mess and get rid of him before he causes long term damage to your children.

LittleOwl153 · 04/04/2022 08:07

Stop paying into the joint account. He is abusing you and taking all your money. Stop paying a mortgage which doesn't even have your name on it. I would also drain the joint savings accounts.
Go see a solicitor about the house. Take all the paperwork you have from your parents etc. You need to know where you stand- but realistically if they gifted him the money to get the mortgage they may have to accept it is lost and that you won't be able to pay it back for a good while if at all. And they should not be pushing you to stay in such a bad relationship for you and your kids because of money.

FairFuming · 04/04/2022 08:12

Your parents need to go speak to a solicitor and put a claim on the house. That only works if they can prove they have paid towards it.
Stop paying for any bills with your money that are in his name.
He sounds like my ex but worse.

Speak to womans aid ASAP, they are great. Then start contacting tour local councils housing department and explain the situation. Also if you aren't claiming CMS from your kids dad start doing that and put it into an account he doesn't know about.

Velvian · 04/04/2022 08:17

How much have your parents given you and how much do you and your partner have in savings?

I suggest that you make plans to leave, move all of the savings, pay your rental deposit and first month's rent, any left over, transfer to your parents. He has been playing you financially for some time by the sounds of it, not the other way around.

fiftyandfat · 04/04/2022 08:20

Tell your parents to check their home insurance policy to see if they have legal cover included. Many policies do. I used mine a few years ago and they won my case. It didn't cost me anything.

maeveiscurious · 04/04/2022 08:25

Get your money and get out

Jonny1265 · 04/04/2022 08:32

What a wanker. Get out as soon as you can.

stimpyyouidiot · 04/04/2022 08:39

Christ op, get out!

LittleBearPad · 04/04/2022 08:47

This is appalling. Go to a solicitor and work out a way to leave. Your children deserve better as do you

TheWeeDonkey · 04/04/2022 08:48

He's a cock lodger who is having affairs and destroying your children's mental health, and yours. Seek legal advice, talk to your parents. When it comes down to it it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of him, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors and smart people know that.

Good luck, he's not good enough for you and he knows it which is why he's trying to undermine you.

Riverlee · 04/04/2022 08:50

He’s belittling you and criticising your children.

Put yourself and your children first.

Riverlee · 04/04/2022 08:50

So in answer to your question, yes, is is being unreasonable.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 04/04/2022 09:02

He is financially and emotionally abusing you and your children, enough to warrant a conversation with a police officer from your local domestic abuse unit, enough to see a solicitor on your own, enough to call Women's Aid for advice.

I am so sorry you are enduring this.

DoWhatYouLike · 04/04/2022 09:03

Take your children and go - you all deserve someone better than that

felulageller · 04/04/2022 09:09

Omg this is so bad.

When are you due to get married? If it's really soon I'd be tempted to say get it done then leave him the next day so you can get your money out of the house.

You and the DC's arent safe. You are all being abused by him. This is damaging your DC's so staying isn't an option.

Do what you can to get your money back but it may not be possible. Don't give him another penny. Look for somewhere else to live.

You can report the financial abuse to the police.

Speak to women's aid for advice as they will have experience of helping when a woman's name's not on the deeds etc.

newbiename · 04/04/2022 09:11

You need to leave. Not sure about the legalities if you're not on the deeds or mortgage though. Was your deposit protected ?

LittleBearPad · 04/04/2022 09:12

Fgs don’t marry him.

notapizzaeater · 04/04/2022 09:27

Please say it's documented somewhere that you/your parents have paid into the house ?

Seeleyboo · 04/04/2022 10:12

You have a big problem. Run. He will make your children feel like shit and believe me they will resent you for choosing him over them.

Duracellbunnywannabe · 04/04/2022 10:58

@Mummybear1993

I want to runaway I really do. I am financially trapped and he knows it. He can be so nice and loving one day then one tiny thing annoys him and he is awful for days. He won't speak to me or the children. He just gets so annoyed with my children and for so long I have made excuses for them. I had counselling last year, as I felt I was being unreasonable and it was all my fault. I bought myself a few things last year on my credit card (think I was feeling sad and unattractive so hit the shops lol) and I am paying it back and he found out that I was earning more than I said. Now he won't pay his salary into our joint account (he earns £1k) more than me a month and hasn't done for 6 months. Says that he can't trust me with money. I apologised and kept paying my salary in with the proper amount but he hasn't paid his salary in since and now we are spending through my salary each month and our savings and he has all his salary plus all his bonuses (he has £55k saved with bonuses, his salary and a lump sum from his parents plus we remortgaged and we took £10k and he has that too). I feel like he was looking for my faults when he cheated on me to get his control and power back!? We have lots of money from my parents in the house and they are worried we will lose it. I don't have my name on the mortgage or deeds. I am scared he will take their money too. I wish I could just win some money, pay off my parents and runaway! I feel so sad and stressed and the children must feel like they walk on eggshells too. No one's knows what he is really like. No one would ever believe me. Well, my friends and family would. I feel he got with me because I was vulnerable. I was in an emotionally abuse relationship before.
And now you and your children being emotionally and financially abused. Ring Women’s aid and start making an exit plan.

Was the money into the house ring fenced? Are you married? You really need some legal advice.

girlmom21 · 04/04/2022 11:30

OP if you need to leave without the money please do.

You can't continue exposing your children to this for the sake of your parents money.

Money can be re-earned over time. Children are only children once - and then they become adults who were exposed to abuse growing up and not knowing what a healthy relationship looks like.