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Does my 2 year old have too much power?

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Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 20:13

Talking too my mother today and she said that I’m letting my 2 year old have too much power/ too much of a say in things. I’ll admit she’s in that age where she’s very opinionated and very stubborn and will have complete meltdowns and whilst she does calm down it takes a while and it’s not particularly conducive to getting things done.

There are a few categories this falls into:

Clothes: we let her chose what she wants to wear and most of the time what we buy from the clothes shops. So by choice, they are all clean, fit and are weather appropriate. Most of the time she picks a set, we tend to buy mainly multi packs or easily swappable pieces, but then if we want to go out she doesn’t always pick a coat and hat that matches but I’ve just gone by the principle in her little world she doesn’t have a lot of control and this is just her showing her personality and style, even if she doesn’t look like a chic Insta baby. We let her chose her clothes ie we’re going to buy shorts and t shirts and there are 3 choices in the shop and she gets to pick 1. She tends to like leggings/ shorts and t shirts for summer, she doesn’t really like dresses and will usually have a melt down if you try and put her in one, except she picked one out yesterday. Sometimes she likes to choose our clothes too, she likes to make us all matching. So my mum said it’s pandering to her and she’ll think she’s more important than she actually is, and that she should get used to wearing dresses because ‘I say so’. I’m just doubting myself a bit because, as long as it’s weather appropriate , clean and fits then what’s the big deal? She loves bright colours, unicorn prints, dinosaur and animal prints anything with those on she loves, which It’s not my personal taste but does it really matter? Felt like it’s picking my battles because if you put her in something she doesn’t like she has a tantrum and gets unchanged and it drags things on if you’re getting out of the house.
Her baby brother - she loves picking out his clothes, we did that as a way of combatting jealousy and making her feel involved. She insists he sits next to her in his newborn highchair thingy. She likes to pick out the activities they too.
Food- we tend to give 2 choices for snacks and she gets to pick one (ie. would you like apple and yoghurt or cheese and crackers?) we also let her eat what she pleases at meals, keeping the pressure off. Mum thinks she should clear her plate, not doubting myself as much about this one. All her meals are home cooked unless we’re eating out (obviously) and she gets offered a wide range of food.
Out and about- she choses the directions we walk in, which park to go to etc
Days out - again choice of 2 things (go to the farm or to the library?)

Is this too much power for a 2.5 year old. Am I too lax? I guess the clothes and her brother and out and about are the ones that have made me second guess myself.

We obviously have non negotiables like brushing teeth, baths (dh and i take turns with her and the baby in the bath anyway), no juice no sweets (gummy or candy style sweets, chocolate is ok l) kind hands and appropriate bedtimes but the rest seems like not really too much or a big deal.

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Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 20:51

That was kind of my original thinking @myyellowcar, her clothes, brothers baby grow, which way we head to the park by the diggers or the big trees, doesn’t really matter. I don’t know. I grew up with children should be seen and not heard, and it used to really bother me. Guess I just wanted her to feel valued

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gamerchick · 22/03/2022 20:51

I probably would do turns now. One day her brother will have his own personality and will want to pick stuff.

MuggleMadness · 22/03/2022 20:54

At first I thought you were giving her far too much control over everything, but with your subsequent ousts, I think you're doing just fine!

As long as she accepts it when you tell her what's happening then it's ok. It's when she tantrums because she doesn't get to choose that it's a problem.

Understanding bedtime is when she's told, or going to the supermarket the way you want to isn't negotiable etc.

Also if you give her a choice when you don't mind park a or park b, but don't feel like you have to ask her when YOU want to go to park a. & feel nervous if her reaction when you say we're going to park a.

Plus maybe introduce the concept of taking turns to choose!! DS won't be a baby forever!! So maybe make a conscious effort to say 'Mummy's turn to choose which park today, your turn to choose next time'

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NannyR · 22/03/2022 20:55

I don't think there is any problem letting them choose an activity or day out, from a limited choice, as long as you are happy to go to either (similar price, distance etc). The fact that we go out for fresh air, play and exercise every day is non-negotiable, but I will ask if they want to go to the lake park, woods or playground park. When we get there, I'll let them lead the way, ask them what they want to do first etc.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 22/03/2022 20:57

I think too many choices can be overwhelming for a toddler and they do need to know that actually you as a parent are completely in control and can contain their anxiety. If you go to great lengths to avoid her expressing strong feelings then you are giving her the message that you don't believe that she or you can handle it.

Kids need to feel anxiety, frustration, anger and learn that these feeling pass and that they're safe and it's okay and normal to have these feelings.

By constantly looking to avoid them you're just storing up issues for the future imo.

That said I agree it's a case of picking your battles, if she's happy choosing her clothes then fine however I wouldn't allow her to be making decisions about where you go, which direction you walk in etc.

NannyR · 22/03/2022 20:59

I know it sounds daft, but could you start to involve the baby in choosing his own clothes, even if that just means you saying "would you like the red top or the blue one?" then you guiding his hand to one of them. Obviously, he couldn't care less, but it's starting to get her used to the idea that he can make choices too.

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:02

Bedtime is always between 7:30-8 depending on how much of a busy day we’ve had or if dinner took longer than normal etc. After ds was born she did start having bedtime meltdowns and get really upset but we found all getting into our pjs helped her, and saying night night to baby, whilst I give him a feed.

I don’t feel like I HAVE to ask her, They’re pretty much equidistant and I’m not fussed. Likewise if she wants to go see the ponies or feed the ducks, it’s all the same to me lol.

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PinkSyCo · 22/03/2022 21:04

It’s good to give children some choices, but I think you are in danger of spoiling your DD. What is going to happen when your DS wants a say in where to go and what to wear?

myyellowcar · 22/03/2022 21:04

It’s something that lockdown definitely fed for us, because who cares which way we walk, or if we feed the ducks or walk the dog, because what else are we going to do? I literally don’t care which, they’re both the same to me.

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:07

@Girliefriendlikespuppies

I think too many choices can be overwhelming for a toddler and they do need to know that actually you as a parent are completely in control and can contain their anxiety. If you go to great lengths to avoid her expressing strong feelings then you are giving her the message that you don't believe that she or you can handle it.

Kids need to feel anxiety, frustration, anger and learn that these feeling pass and that they're safe and it's okay and normal to have these feelings.

By constantly looking to avoid them you're just storing up issues for the future imo.

That said I agree it's a case of picking your battles, if she's happy choosing her clothes then fine however I wouldn't allow her to be making decisions about where you go, which direction you walk in etc.

Oh she still feels all her feelings lol. She hates brushing her teeth, getting out of the bath, having her nose cleaned so she still has the usual meltdowns over literally nothing. We do the ‘all feelings are valid, but all actions are not’ when she lashes out, she’s only smacked once or twice on frustration:

Clothes wise she doesn’t get anxious, I’ll ask her what do you want to wear today and most of the time she’ll name an outfit or go to her wardrobe and pick one, but if she doesn’t I’ll give her a choice of 2 and then she’ll pick one and then want to chose a pair of socks all on her own. She’s really into clothes and her own specific aesthetic 😂

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Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:07

@NannyR

I know it sounds daft, but could you start to involve the baby in choosing his own clothes, even if that just means you saying "would you like the red top or the blue one?" then you guiding his hand to one of them. Obviously, he couldn't care less, but it's starting to get her used to the idea that he can make choices too.
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Gonnagetgoing · 22/03/2022 21:11

I think what you could do is continue to let her choose her own clothes and also her DB’s but say to her, DB will have his own likes and dislikes including clothes and I’d like to choose them too. Also say, people can choose together and it’s good to have different choices.

itsjustnotok · 22/03/2022 21:13

Giving her a few options is just fine. I wouldn’t let her pick her brothers though, he will want to do it himself at some point and it might make it hard to transition. Nor would I let her pick my own clothes.

RedWingBoots · 22/03/2022 21:13

going to the supermarket the way you want to isn't negotiable

Depends if you have the time.

I let my DD choose the route to a particular supermarket we want to go to from 2.5 and if it was a longer way I told her as she chose it she shouldn't complain. She's quickly learnt to ask if the route she wants to take is a longer route.

Mind you I'm in London and we go to different supermarkets to top up on different foods.

MaChienEstUnDick · 22/03/2022 21:20

The only thing I'd worry about there is where she makes choices for other people. Pretty soon her DB is going to have a mind of his own, and while I wouldn't mind occasionally letting a child pick out my jumper, I wouldn't want to make a habit of it.

I don't like your DM's ideas around 'power' though - essentially, what power does a 2 yo have? So what if she gets to choose between the park and the woods, it's not going to turn her into a dictator!

spotcheck · 22/03/2022 21:25

I wouldn't let her pick other people's clothes.

And I think there may be too much choice over her food. Maybe each person has a day where they good to choose what is for dinner?

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:31

@spotcheck

I wouldn't let her pick other people's clothes.

And I think there may be too much choice over her food. Maybe each person has a day where they good to choose what is for dinner?

She only gets choice over her snacks; a choice of 2 things. All homemade and balanced. She just decides how much of it she has. One safe food is included in every meal. I do let her chose her pudding though, but the only options is fruit, yoghurt or a biscuit . She nearly always opts for fruit so we let her chose which fruit out of 2, apples or grapes etc.

We do make sure we have a few of her favourite dinners on the menu a week though

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britneyisfree · 22/03/2022 21:31

You sound great! I'm going to try the clothes thing. I'd love her to fully develop her own style and taste. I still don't have one as I was never really allowed to choose. So I don't really know what I like!!

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:33

I do agree @MaChienEstUnDick my mum is quite a controlling woman, i grew up from her with children should be seen and not heard, I wasn’t really allowed opinions. It would always be my dad that would say ‘let her talk’ or ‘I want to hear your opinion’. Don’t want her to feel like I did

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Viviennemary · 22/03/2022 21:35

It isnt't the way zI would choose to bring up a two year old but she is uour child not your mothers. But you need to consider whether all this freedom of choice at such a very young age is helping or not. And will it be storing up problems for the future.

winterchills · 22/03/2022 21:36

I think she's getting too many choices. Especially picking what everyone wears. I think you are setting her up to display spoilt behaviour and this will continue. I know a child similar who is primary school age and she completely rules the home and it is not good.

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:42

@winterchills

I think she's getting too many choices. Especially picking what everyone wears. I think you are setting her up to display spoilt behaviour and this will continue. I know a child similar who is primary school age and she completely rules the home and it is not good.
I do worry about her being spoilt, because she is a bit, not necessarily in the choices sense but she has every toy ever made.

Baby’s clothes she helps pick often, ours it’s rare but it does happen. She doesn’t have a meltdown if I say no though, I’ll just say no from now on though. Baby’s I think, we’ll start giving baby a day and she can just hand me stuff, you know pass the vest and pass baby’s socks. She’s still involved But not in control

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MuggleMadness · 22/03/2022 21:44

@RedWingBoots

going to the supermarket the way you want to isn't negotiable

Depends if you have the time.

I let my DD choose the route to a particular supermarket we want to go to from 2.5 and if it was a longer way I told her as she chose it she shouldn't complain. She's quickly learnt to ask if the route she wants to take is a longer route.

Mind you I'm in London and we go to different supermarkets to top up on different foods.

You totally took what I said out of context. Why would you do that?
Picklesandbeans · 22/03/2022 21:45

Too much choice! Sounds like a spoilt only child, how will she cope when brother us at sane age and can pick what she wears?? Honestly my 2 year old never had anything to do with what I wear. Dont be afraid of tantrums.
Let her choose from choice of 2 etc for food but honestly you do have another child so you have to break the habit of it's all about her. Or what will you do when they both want to choose where you go, how and what you wear? What if she thinks that control over others is normal? Shes going to struggle in a school settbgwgen shes told what to do.

Bluffysummers · 22/03/2022 21:53

She actually does really well at nursery which follows a school like rhythm, she’s helpful and chatty and not at all bratish, so school doesn’t really concern me.

She does have tantrums here and there so we aren’t afraid of them as such, our abd about it’s less than ideal lol.

Our clothes we’ll curtail i think, I just thought it was cute but yeah it’s probably too much control. Days out, I do think it’s nice to involve the kids in the decision making but we’ll do more mummy choose, daddy choose, you choose I think, even though it’s all the same to us lol

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