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ECers... come talk to me.

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FlameNFurter · 04/01/2008 18:21

DS is 22 months and reacting to cloth nappies. I hate disposables - they smell and cost too much.

I am generally one for waiting until they ask to potty train though.

He is wandering round naked now and I am assuming I will be mopping up floors and carpets. Is there an easier way to do this?

I want to keep him nappy free as much as possible when we are at home, but I don't know what to do - I haven't done it this way before.

Advice greatly accepted!

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frazzledbutcalm · 04/01/2008 21:54

He'll let you know when he's ready. Could be now but could be another year away. If he's reacting to cloth nappies is there a reason why? Presumably you've always used them so has he always reacted? If not, have you changed anything? It may be that you have to use disposables for a while, depends on where he is in the training stage.

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 11:29

I know that all children are different, which is why I was asking for advice from the people who do EC (nappy free from birth) - they will know the best way for me to go about him being bare bummed as much as possible.

I don't know why he is reacting to cloth, I have exhausted all avenues to fix it.

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TheGoatofBitterness · 05/01/2008 11:33

if he is just weeing continually then he is not ready to be potty trained and you are both going to have apretty miserable time. if he is only going every 15 mins or longer then he has some control and may be ready. the crucial part is him 'getting' the coordination between needing to go - sitting on the loo - and then learning how to let the wee go. does he let you know that he needs a wee or poo?

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DontDreamItBeIt · 05/01/2008 13:25

EC isn't poty training though!

If he is nappy free any way this was interesting

It sounds like it will be hard work this late tbh, and you will probably just spend alot of time mopping!

Keep bumping. There are ECers here who will have useful advice.

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 14:54

Thanks Jas Will go read.

The amount that I hate the disposables, mopping is infinitely more preferable He doesn't wee constantly - it is every 30mins-1hr.

He is near potty training age anyway, he tells me before poos if he can be bothered.

Hopefully an ECer will be along soon (I'm thinking Babieseverywhere does it...)

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morningpaper · 05/01/2008 14:56

The Baby Whisperer talks about early potty training, although that is starting around 9-18 months - you could have a look at that for starters - it is more of a gradual, encouraging thing than anything else

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 14:58

ooh I have the baby whisperer somewhere I think! Or was that the toddler one? I remember getting rid of one because it didn't cater for a child like DD

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Staceym21AtLast · 05/01/2008 15:26

flame saw on another thread you're selling a ring sling????

you still hve it? can i buy it please??????? save me the trouble of buying one!

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 17:04

Ooh yes - did I say how much I wanted?

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Staceym21AtLast · 05/01/2008 18:25

yeah £14, make it delivered and you have a deal! save me trying to make one!

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 18:37

I can't do it delivered - it is a big bit of material and I need the money so need the full £14 and postage at cost I'm afraid

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Staceym21AtLast · 05/01/2008 18:42

how much you think delivery will be me lovely?

i was being cheeky, il still take it don't worry!

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 18:50

I'll weigh it when the kids are in bed

If I wasn't skint I would have agreed

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Staceym21AtLast · 05/01/2008 18:59

flame its just after xmas, i know that feeling. iv only got cash as its for my car

my test is tues, can you see im avoiding the subject? (and spending the money )

Frizbe · 05/01/2008 19:56

Do you have laundry lovers e-mail, as she's gotten her dd2 trained now so I reckon she'll have some good advice for you, let me know on the other thread!

BabiesEverywhere · 05/01/2008 20:21

Hi Flame, I think you saw these links on the other thread but thought I would add them here as well

EC Links

The 'Late Starters' Yahoo group will be most helpful and apt for your situation.

Here is a few hints on starting to EC with a baby (not everything will apply to youFew Ideas

But as your little one is 22 months, I wouldn't hold him over a potty. He is big enough to sit on a potty or on a toilet insert on his own. I would recommend starting with a toilet seat insert as he won't walk/crawl off it, as he might a potty.

I would aim to catch the post sleep wees first as they are the easiest to time.

Try reading and special toys (just to be played with on the toilet) to keep him in place to do a wee/poo.

Explain and talk to him and tell him the right place to do his wee/poo is the toilet. If he does it, praise the action. That is right wee goes in the toilet.

Is he wees on the floor, have a basket of cheap flannels and he and you can mop up the mess together. In a nice voice just state what happened. Oh look, you did a wee on the floor, now we have to clean it up. Where does the wee belong ? That's right the toilet.

No punishment or negativity or rewards just state what did happen and what should happen.

Take him to the toilet when you do and pop him on a potty at your feet whilst you go. The sound of your wee will trigger him to wee if he needs to.

Bare bum is much easier if he doesn't mind the cold.

Does any of the above help ?

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FlameNFurter · 05/01/2008 20:38

That is fabulous! Thank you sooo much! He loves the potty anyway (can you get more boyish shaped ones do you know? His bits all get caught up in both the ones we have) - I will swipe the insert from my mum's.

Bare bum is no issue - our house is always warm and he likes being naked... gives him easy access to his bits to play with

You made that all sound so simple, I'm all enthused now

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BabiesEverywhere · 05/01/2008 20:41

Good, if you have any problems post and I'll try my best to help. Here's to your first catch

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FlameNFurter · 06/01/2008 15:42

He has been nappy free since about 1ish... He appears to have done a little one on the floor and then gone to finish off in the bathroom (on the floor) - or he may have done the whole thing downstairs and just have been playing with water in the bathroom

Tis oddly fun.

He just likes sitting on his potty.

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BabiesEverywhere · 06/01/2008 16:16

LOL, at the 'oddly fun' comment. I think this is why I ended up being a convert to ECing.

Trying to catch wees is fun, especially compared with changing nappies.

With my DD we started catching poos first. Dealing with poo in a toilet verses scraping it out of my childs nappy & bottom is blissfully easy and involves no mess. One square of toilet paper and a tiny wipe and we are all done.

OK, the wee misses might take slightly longer to deal with, than a standard nappy change but overall I save so much time, energy and mess

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FlameNFurter · 06/01/2008 18:52

Twas less fun later when he pooed Must watch child more... He trod in it and then came to tell me all upset. I am just thankful he isn't a smearer!!!

Let's see what tomorrow brings

When I asked if he wee'd on the carpet, he said no and tried to tell me something very in depth and important involving pointing at the nappy box... I have no idea what it was about but he was very intense

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BabiesEverywhere · 06/01/2008 19:22

But he came and told you, that is great communication. He didn't leave it for you to find on your own

We also have the very intent little voice from DD and I feel so bad as I have no idea what she is trying to tell me. Being a toddler must be tough at times.

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FlameNFurter · 06/01/2008 19:51

I'm finding it really weird - DD never did this - she never really had the babbling phase, her speech is still slightly delayed and I can see with DS's intent babbling that he is forming everything he needs for language. She never did that, it was the odd word but not this gobbledigook sentence thing.

I love it

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BabiesEverywhere · 06/01/2008 22:07

Just goes to show how different every child is

Maveta · 07/01/2008 08:31

{thread hijack} (sorry flame! )

BabiesEverywhere.. we pop my 8 month old ds on the toilet (seat insert at mine, potty at my mum's) after almost every nappy change or when we know he's needing a poo (very obvious!) and very rarely get pooey nappies now. Before any jumps on me, I am totally aware that we are the 'trained' ones and not him but I totally agree that less pooey sticky smelly nappies to change is enough incentive for me! lol.

The question is: what about pees? He seems to make the connection with the toilet and doing a poo but even if we leave him on a few seconds after a poo, he won't pee on it. He might have a little dribble but will wait until he's back on the changing mat to let loose! Is the only way leaving him on there for longer? I'm reluctant to do that as he's so young and I don't really want to actively potty train him in the slightest. Running around naked now is not an option, our house is pretty cool.. that will definitely have to wait til summer when he'll be a year old. Any advice?

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